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« on: June 26, 2010, 03:55:29 am »

1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management

This unit group includes those who provide services to management such as analyzing the operations, managerial methods or functions of an organization in order to propose, plan and implement improvements, or analyzing advertising needs and developing appropriate advertising plans. They are employed by management consulting firms, advertising agencies and throughout the public and private sectors or are self-employed.

Main duties

Management consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Analyze and provide advice on the managerial methods and organization of a public or private sector establishment
    * Conduct research to determine efficiency and effectiveness of managerial policies and programs
    * Conduct assessments and propose improvements to methods, systems and procedures in areas such as operations, human resources, records management and communications
    * Conduct quality audits and develop quality management and quality assurance standards for ISO (International Organization for Standardization) registration
    * Plan the reorganization of the operations of an establishment
    * May supervise contracted researchers or clerical staff.

Advertising and promotion consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Assess characteristics of products or services to be promoted and advise on the advertising needs of an establishment
    * Advise clients on advertising or sales promotion strategies
    * Develop and implement advertising campaigns appropriate for print or electronic media.

Employment requirements

    * A bachelor's degree or college diploma in business administration, commerce or a related discipline is usually required.

    * A graduate degree in business administration may be required.

    * Some establishments may require management consultants to be certified by a provincial management consulting association.

    * Certification as a quality auditor may be required for some occupations in this unit group.

    * Occupations in health information management may require certification by the Canadian Health Information Management Association (CHIMA).

    * In Quebec, occupations in health information management may require certification by the Association québécoise des archivistes médicales.

Additional information

    * Progression to senior and managerial positions is possible with experience.


Example Titles

    *  account executive, advertising
    * advertising account executive
    * advertising campaign organizer
    * advertising consultant
    * advertising specialist
    * adviser, corporate development planning
    * analyst, business management
    * analyst, business methods
    * analyst, filing systems
    * analyst, industrial and commercial methods
    * analyst, methods and cost
    * analyst, methods and procedures
    * analyst, occupational – services to management firms
    * analyst, records management systems
    * analyst, time study
    * analyst, work study
    * business consultant
    * business management analyst
    * business management consultant
    * business methods analyst
    * certified management consultant
    * client group supervisor
    * conference facilitator
    * consultant, advertising
    * consultant, business
    * consultant, management
    * consultant, organizational analysis
    * co-ordinator, standards
    * corporate development planning adviser
    * corporate planner
    * direct mail specialist
    * expert trade consultant
    * facilitator, conference
    * file manager
    * filing systems analyst
    * forms management analysts supervisor
    * industrial and commercial methods analyst
    * ISO consultant
    * management analyst
    * management consultant
    * marketing specialist – advertising
    * methods and cost analyst
    * methods and procedures analyst
    * occupational analyst – services to management firms
    * officer, organization and methods
    * operations management senior consultant
    * organization and methods officer
    * organization and methods researcher
    * organizational analysis consultant
    * organizational analyst
    * organizer, advertising campaign
    * point of sale system manager
    * price management analyst
    * product manager – marketing
    * promotion representative
    * promotion specialist
    * promotion strategies consultant
    * quality auditor, industrial standards
    * records filing systems analysts supervisor
    * records management specialist
    * records management systems analyst
    * records manager – business services
    * researcher, organization and methods
    * senior consultant, operations management
    * senior marketing consultant
    * service manager – marketing support
    * specialist, advertising
    * specialist, records management
    * specialist, standards
    * standards co-ordinator
    * standards specialist
    * supervisor, forms management analysts
    * supervisor, records filing systems analysts
    * supervisor, work study analysts
    * team training specialist
    * time study analyst – services to management firms
    * work reorganization consultant
    * work study analyst
    * work study analysts supervisor

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 03:58:50 am »

Dear Friends,

Many occupations have been removed from Demand list. NOC:1122 is the only occupation where I can think to apply as a Federal Skill Worker.

Some duties are match with my job duties, but they have not describe job duties in details on web site. There are only 5 sentences.

Can anybody help me to understand NOC:1122, what is this and who can apply in this NOC?

Can anybody list job duties in other words/sentences?

Thanks a lot

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 04:02:33 am »

It is the job where you do business analysis for management. Like management consultants, business analysts in a company, etc. It is also meant for advertisers. This is just my opinion.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 04:12:41 am »

It is the job where you do business analysis for management. Like management consultants, business analysts in a company, etc. It is also meant for advertisers. This is just my opinion.

Thanks to reply,

I am from the company, doing work in

1. Software Development
2. Computer Training
3. Placement Services

I am main person of the company and all other staff are working under me, I am doing advertising, running company, doing all the financial transactions.

Designations can be show as Manager, Director, Company Head, Analyst, Consultant, Supervisor etc.

Can I apply in this NOC?
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 04:16:00 am »

My uneducated opinion is no. So you should wait for others to answer.
Software development is not the main focus of this NOC.
Neither is computer training.

If your company is doing consulting to other company on how to advertise or product analysis, etc, then you could fit into this. But remember this is not for managers but those who advice the managers, i.e., consultants and analysts.

Then again, as I said, this is my uneducated opinion.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 06:22:06 am »

Visa Expert,

I recall on so many threads you have encouraged, and rightly so, asking people to apply right away as the list might change. Why, then I wonder, Sir, you have not apllied till now?
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 06:27:37 am »

Visa Expert,

I recall on so many threads you have encouraged, and rightly so, asking people to apply right away as the list might change. Why, then I wonder, Sir, you have not apllied till now?

It's my bad luck, but it's time for you people to help me.

Let me understand new demand list.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 06:47:34 am »

Attention Financial Auditors

Guys don't get disappointed. Financial Auditors are not in the new list, however NOC 1122 does not completely eliminates Financial Auditors. Remember the job title does not matter it is the job description/responsibilities that counts. So those people who work in audit firms, it is very common to provide audit and advisory services and based on my opinion (after reading NOC 1122 category) advisory services also fall under this category so guys, if you can prove that you are involved in the advisory services (plus confirmation from employer) the door is still open.

Comments invited

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 07:07:10 am »

Dear All,

i am working at firm named ABC CONSULTANT Cost & Management Accounts.
where we have done team work projects.

My final Education MBA

1-My Job Duties should inculde for following:

2-Consulting to Factories, Industries, & Business centers (any type of businies) how to manage your record for sales and income tax purpose.

3-Makin constitutions for those to run their business smoothly,

4-How to keep filing of daily purpose record. Bills, Sales purchases Invoices. Helping these record for return of income / sale tax to Tax office.

5-Helping and making file for Business name Registration

6- Gather Financial records from business centers to give formal shape from raw shape data and pass on to Chatered Accountant to make Financial Statement and Balance Sheet.

My office is basically consultancy office, whether it is financial consultancy and also business consultancy. i want to ask that CIO accept my job desicription under the designation of Business Management Consultant. and my Firm name acceptable which is i mention above. because my firm register with the tag of Cost & Management Accoutant.

I am confuse my JD are under NOC 1122 and my firm name shown the tag of NOC 1111.

Plz help me in this regard i am eligible for NOC 1122 or not .


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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 09:07:49 am »

Attention Financial Auditors

Guys don't get disappointed. Financial Auditors are not in the new list, however NOC 1122 does not completely eliminates Financial Auditors. Remember the job title does not matter it is the job description/responsibilities that counts. So those people who work in audit firms, it is very common to provide audit and advisory services and based on my opinion (after reading NOC 1122 category) advisory services also fall under this category so guys, if you can prove that you are involved in the advisory services (plus confirmation from employer) the door is still open.

Comments invited

Best of luck

Justchill



Do you think, I can qualify for NOC 1122?

Please send all the Job duties for NOC 1122 (should not be copies from CIC website)
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 09:16:28 am »

NOC 1111 & 1122 is totally different.

Dont waste your time in applying under 1122 as Financial Accountant or Auditors.


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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2010, 09:25:59 am »

Can anybody describe the Job duties in different words? I am not able to understand what is there.

There is an example title for     * advertising specialist,  all the company does advertisement and have advertising department there.

Is it necessary to be work in Management or advertisement company to qualify under this NOC?




Management consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Analyze and provide advice on the managerial methods and organization of a public or private sector establishment
    * Conduct research to determine efficiency and effectiveness of managerial policies and programs
    * Conduct assessments and propose improvements to methods, systems and procedures in areas such as operations, human resources, records management and communications
    * Conduct quality audits and develop quality management and quality assurance standards for ISO (International Organization for Standardization) registration
    * Plan the reorganization of the operations of an establishment
    * May supervise contracted researchers or clerical staff.


Advertising and promotion consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Assess characteristics of products or services to be promoted and advise on the advertising needs of an establishment
    * Advise clients on advertising or sales promotion strategies
    * Develop and implement advertising campaigns appropriate for print or electronic media.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2010, 09:26:39 am »

I am an accountant and was going to send my application on Monday. I almost can't believe my bad luck! Can I still apply under 1122?
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2010, 09:31:07 am »

I am an accountant and was going to send my application on Monday. I almost can't believe my bad luck! Can I still apply under 1122?

Do not apply immediately.

Understand the NOC 1122 and If you cam claim job duties under this NOC then only you should apply.
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2010, 09:32:57 am »

Thanks to reply,

I am from the company, doing work in

1. Software Development
2. Computer Training
3. Placement Services

I am main person of the company and all other staff are working under me, I am doing advertising, running company, doing all the financial transactions.

Designations can be show as Manager, Director, Company Head, Analyst, Consultant, Supervisor etc.

Can I apply in this NOC?

This is in response to your PM:

Hi V/Expert,

I sympathesize with your situation. It's regrettable that u delayed your filing (as someone else opined before) while all the way advising others to do so asap.

Two things happened here (with the new set of NOCs).
1. If u see the HRSDC list, Major Group-11 has 2 categories with 6 NOCs. They denied the 1st 5 & chose to select only the last, in Cat-112; HR & BSP. This is aimed purely for Business Consultants, the Management Advisors who'd deal with either BPR (Business Process ReEngineering, including ISO) or Advertising & Promotion. The IT Development, or Outsourcing, or Advisory Assistance, has deliberately been kept out.
U may like to refer http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/Occupations.aspx?val=1

2. Anything remotely hinting at IT/Computer & Vocational Instructors have been seriously dealt against. The plight of both categories is quite evident here, in Canada. During the last NOC update a huge qty of ppl chose to take the NOC 0213 & 4131 way (most modified their career graph to fit into one of these 2), whether they actually worked in those occupations or not. The results were pathetic... Many landed & r on Social Security, unable to find any job in either of the 2 NOCs or none whatsoever at all. Quite a few were absolutely unfit, even for Data Entry. The real ones succeeded though & r settled with IT jobs, but the bulk didn't. And Canada noticed.

Thus, my friend, with those 3 duties that u listed above, u'd have a tough call fitting into this NOC. Besides, neither of the other NOCs would encourage that too. The best way out for u is to modify your Career Pattern, juxtaposed to the related vocations in the NOC. How morally correct that'd be is not part of this post.

All the best.
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