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Author Topic: NOC 0213, job respobsibilies and explanation - is it enough, please help  (Read 846 times)
PankajK
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« on: July 05, 2009, 04:01:11 am »

Hi friends

i am puting these job responsibilities as in 0213, i hv done all this work and have the experience letter showing the same.

team building for development
cost and effort estimation
meetings with mgmnt and clients
project budgeting
progress reports and reviews
new hires

it it enough or should i explain more.

Another question, there is less space in this section (job Experience) to write about job responsibilities, can i use extra sheet like adress/personal history/education etc, i am asking because it is not mentioned for this (experence)

Please advise
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 05:05:18 am »

Hi friends

i am puting these job responsibilities as in 0213, i hv done all this work and have the experience letter showing the same.

team building for development
cost and effort estimation
meetings with mgmnt and clients
project budgeting
progress reports and reviews
new hires

it it enough or should i explain more.

Another question, there is less space in this section (job Experience) to write about job responsibilities, can i use extra sheet like adress/personal history/education etc, i am asking because it is not mentioned for this (experence)

Please advise
Use extra sheet.
These are the duties of 0213 Source: http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/QuickSearch.aspx?val65=0213

0213 Computer and Information Systems Managers

Computer and information systems managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the activities of organizations that analyze, design, develop, implement, operate and administer computer and telecommunications software, networks and information systems. They are employed throughout the public and private sectors.

Example Titles

EDP (electronic data processing) manager
computer systems manager
data centre manager
data processing director
information systems manager
manager, data processing and systems analysis
manager, management information system (MIS)
manager, software engineering
software development manager
systems development manager

View all titles

Main duties

Computer and information systems managers perform some or all of the following duties:
Plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of information systems and electronic data processing (EDP) departments and companies
Develop and implement policies and procedures for electronic data processing and computer systems operations and development
Meet with clients to discuss system requirements, specifications, costs and timelines
Assemble and manage teams of information systems personnel to design, develop, implement, operate and administer computer and telecommunications software, networks and information systems
Control the budget and expenditures of the department, company or project
Recruit and supervise computer analysts, engineers, programmers, technicians and other personnel and oversee their professional development and training.

Kindly attach extra sheet and be very careful for drafting these duties. Do not directly copy paste them. Write them in your own words.
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PankajK
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 05:51:14 am »

Thanks rocky272727
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PankajK
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 09:15:28 am »

Thanks,

I wanted to know about these job responsibilities

"team building for development
cost and effort estimation
meetings with mgmnt and clients
project budgeting
progress reports and reviews
new hires"

as i have taken these as an extract from my experience letter of my job as Project Manager.

I have filled my form just want to know views of others and in case any wording change is required, as i am a bit nervous about it.
Please help

Regards
Pankaj
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 09:21:24 am »

Thanks,

I wanted to know about these job responsibilities

"team building for development
cost and effort estimation
meetings with mgmnt and clients
project budgeting
progress reports and reviews
new hires"

as i have taken these as an extract from my experience letter of my job as Project Manager.

I have filled my form just want to know views of others and in case any wording change is required, as i am a bit nervous about it.
Please help

Regards
Pankaj

Pankaj,

0213 is a tricky and not only this NOC lot of other. I myself have sent my file and mentioned minimal duties by only using the space in the forms. I would suggest you to elaborate these duties more on a separate sheet.

team building for development - Not Clear - Compare it with the once I mentioned from the website, this is what Visa officer at CIO will do.
cost and effort estimation- Not Clear
meetings with mgmnt and clients - Elaborate it
project budgeting - Elaborate it
progress reports and reviews - Elaborate it
new hires - Elaborate it

Kindly draft them carefully and take your time doing that. It is very important for the Immi Officer at CIO to pass your file and they usually check the duties whether they correspond to the applicable NOC or not.

Hope I have answered your question.
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NOC Code......: 0213, 4131
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 02:30:25 pm »

pankaj, here are my 2 cents... immigration officer is not an IT manager himself so the best way for him/her to analyse your application is to look at your job duties while searching for keywords for NOC 0213. when you write your dutues, please explain them comprehensively. try to mention the keywords like managing the team, hiring new resources, planning, organizing, evaluating, policies and procedures etc etc... i am only giving you examples. rest is upto you to decide which ones are your managerial duties. i am myself NOC 0213 applicant and did the same. this worked for me at CIO.

good luck with proving your experience at CIO.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 05:07:29 pm »

Hi

pankaj, here are my 2 cents... immigration officer is not an IT manager himself so the best way for him/her to analyse your application is to look at your job duties while searching for keywords for NOC 0213. when you write your dutues, please explain them comprehensively. try to mention the keywords like managing the team, hiring new resources, planning, organizing, evaluating, policies and procedures etc etc... i am only giving you examples. rest is upto you to decide which ones are your managerial duties. i am myself NOC 0213 applicant and did the same. this worked for me at CIO.

good luck with proving your experience at CIO.

Except the IO is going to base his/her decision on what the employer states were the job duties, not what the applicant states.

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