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[mhaal]

im planning to apply my brother as live-in caregiver from Philippines.. we own a 2 bedrooms townhouse but my two boys age 4.5 & 1 are sleeping in our bedroom & no one is using the other bedroom. now before i send my brother to a caregiving school, i just wanna make sure that the embassy will not question or deny the application because of that... pls. help!!

[PMM]

Hi

im planning to apply my brother as live-in caregiver from Philippines.. we own a 2 bedrooms townhouse but my two boys age 4.5 & 1 are sleeping in our bedroom & no one is using the other bedroom. now before i send my brother to a caregiving school, i just wanna make sure that the embassy will not question or deny the application because of that... pls. help!!

With 2 bedrooms, it is unlikely to be approved. CHC is going to work on the basis of 1 bedroom for the parent and 1 bedroom for the kids, therefor no bedroom for the caregiver.

[plussy]

Hi

I was in the same situation.  Employer's house has 3 bedrooms. One for the employer (parents), second for the children and third is for the mother of the employer(grandmother).  I got refused coz there are no bedroom for the caregiver.  Consul counted the household and did not even consider that the grandmother can share a room with the children which at that time on their preschool stage.  Employer also stated that on the application.  I was hired to take care of the children.

My employer reapplied and mentioned that the grandmother moved out and stayed with a close relative.  Got accepted with no problems.

[Leon]

There is a Canadian National Occupancy Standard you can find at http://www2.stats.govt.nz/domino/external/web/prod_serv.nsf/0/5fc1e29f9dda2bc0cc256dd5006e47d3?OpenDocument#Discussion where it states that:

* no more than two people shall share a bedroom
* parents or couples may share a bedroom
* children, both under 5 years, either of the same sex or opposite sex may share a bedroom
* children under 18 years of the same sex may share a bedroom
* single adults 18 years and over and any unpaired children require a separate bedroom

Therefore they would say that the 2 boys 4.5 and 1 years old need their own bedroom they may share until the older one turns 18 and the parents need a separate bedroom so no room for live-in caregiver.  Also in plussy's case, the grandmother can not share a bedroom with the kids.

[plussy]

So that is why they refused me.  This was never mentioned by the consul when I had my interview.  She asked for my passport and papers and reviewed my situation.  I was hoping that they will issue my visa but eventually all papers and passport were returned with a letter that I have no room in my employer's house.

Anyways, thanks Leon for the link.  Finally got the answer all these years.   

There is a Canadian National Occupancy Standard you can find at http://www2.stats.govt.nz/domino/external/web/prod_serv.nsf/0/5fc1e29f9dda2bc0cc256dd5006e47d3?OpenDocument#Discussion where it states that:

* no more than two people shall share a bedroom
* parents or couples may share a bedroom
* children, both under 5 years, either of the same sex or opposite sex may share a bedroom
* children under 18 years of the same sex may share a bedroom
* single adults 18 years and over and any unpaired children require a separate bedroom

Therefore they would say that the 2 boys 4.5 and 1 years old need their own bedroom they may share until the older one turns 18 and the parents need a separate bedroom so no room for live-in caregiver.  Also in plussy's case, the grandmother can not share a bedroom with the kids.

[mhaal]

thanks a lot for these info....

[pinoypower]

hello, my situation is very close to mhaal's.  we are a family of 4, me, my wife and two kids 14 and 6 years old.  BUT we have 2 bedrooms and 1 DEN..the den is quite small, 5ft x 7ft, no closet but has a door and lock with key.  we want to hire our nephew from the philippines as our caregiver for our youngest son and he will stay in the den.

anyone have any answers or experiences with the den being suitable?  I've asked almost everyone on the internet and nobody seems to know, i went to the CIC website and it just says "adequate accommodations" no mentions if a "den" is adequate or not..please help.

thank you

[scylla]

hello, my situation is very close to mhaal's.  we are a family of 4, me, my wife and two kids 14 and 6 years old.  BUT we have 2 bedrooms and 1 DEN..the den is quite small, 5ft x 7ft, no closet but has a door and lock with key.  we want to hire our nephew from the philippines as our caregiver for our youngest son and he will stay in the den.

anyone have any answers or experiences with the den being suitable?  I've asked almost everyone on the internet and nobody seems to know, i went to the CIC website and it just says "adequate accommodations" no mentions if a "den" is adequate or not..please help.

thank you

Are both of your children the same sex (e.g. both male)?

[PMM]

Hi

hello, my situation is very close to mhaal's.  we are a family of 4, me, my wife and two kids 14 and 6 years old.  BUT we have 2 bedrooms and 1 DEN..the den is quite small, 5ft x 7ft, no closet but has a door and lock with key.  we want to hire our nephew from the philippines as our caregiver for our youngest son and he will stay in the den.

anyone have any answers or experiences with the den being suitable?  I've asked almost everyone on the internet and nobody seems to know, i went to the CIC website and it just says "adequate accommodations" no mentions if a "den" is adequate or not..please help.

thank you

LCP has to have their own bedroom, not a share.  A den is not a bedroom at 35 sq. feet.

[pinoypower]

Are both of your children the same sex (e.g. both male)?

Hello, yes they are both boys, they share a bedroom right now.  so you guys think a 35 sq ft den is not sufficient for accommodating our caregiver??  should we even try?

[pinoypower]

anyone know and can help advise us?  salamat

[scylla]

anyone know and can help advise us?  salamat

PMM is an expert and I would therefore go with the answer provided by PMM above.

[Baloo]

I cannot believe that a 5ft x 7ft area would be seen as a bedroom, in Canada that is a large cupboard.