New List COMING SOON

[CanSun]

This link from HRSDC Canada might help regarding future NOC trends:::

http://www.rhdcc.gc.ca/eng/publications_resources/research/categories/labour_market_e/sp_615_10_06/LA06-Shortages-29Jan07.pdf


However - keep in mind that this list was published in 2007 - before the Global Economic Crisis. Since 2008 when the Global Economic Crisis came up - things have changed drastically for some professions and so there might be variations from the above list.

But still the list might be a good benchmark for things to come in the near future for Canadian Immigration.

[on-hold]

This doesn't surprise me at all -- I think that Canada will need to revise their list quite often.  Personally, my guess is that college and university professors will be removed (4131 and, I think 4121).  I've applied to CIC under the first of these, and have been spending my processing time looking at where I might end up working -- and I've been concerned to find that over the course of many months, over all of Canada, there have only been one or two jobs that I could possibly even apply for . . .  It makes me wonder exactly why Canada wanted me . . .

The problem, of course, is that there is no such job as 'college teacher' or 'professor' -- it's the sub-specialty that matters, and I would imagine that letting anyone who has ever been a college instructor apply leads to terrible mismatches in the labor pool . . .

[SD]

I think that 4131 and 4121 are extremely important - not just for the current immigrants but as a plan for the country to improve its skills shortages in the long term!

If they allow instructors and teachers to come in - they can look at training the existing population as well as future growth in population in the relevant skills! So maybe they know exactly what they are doing?

[on-hold]

SD, you didn't understand my point.  For example, if you go through the various community colleges, there are a few subjects that they obviously have trouble finding teachers for -- nursing instructors are the biggest one, but others include qualified vocational teachers, mathematics, etc.  There are not a lot of job advertisements for college or university instructors.

If the national need for teachers is quite specific, it doesn't make sense to let in a broad category -- if you need qualified French teachers (which Canada does), and I teach Korean, does it benefit the country to admit me as a permanent resident?  There is no such thing as a 'college' professor, the specialty is what counts.

The community college category is too broad, and the academic job market at the PhD level is too small and very heavily biased against outsiders.  Canadian universities already have the ability to hire foreign professors, it's standard practice in academia.  I would be very surprised if they keep these two categories for the future.

[SD]

i agree - makes sense! maybe then they must just keep revising with specific categories.

in my feedback on the survey - I said that canada needs to maintain a primary list and a secondary list.

Primary list: for constant in demand occupations. e.g. Doctors, nurses, CA's etc.

Secondary list ( which is dynamic and keeps changing often based on the economic requirement) : which could have other occupations like specific engineers, specific medical specialists et. So maybe the vocational aspect you spoke about can come in on this secondary list.

[on-hold]

I'm not complaining!  NOC 4131 lets me apply . . .  But it either means that my best chance of working in Canada is to teach in an extremely remote college, or change careers.  I'm leaning towards the latter, since the former will always be an option.

I might also be wrong -- I'm sure that CIC uses both short-term and long-term projections when making their list, and perhaps 4131 is going to experience big shortages in 10 years.  Given their processing times, it would be necessary to start recruitment now 

I think the idea of a primary/secondary list is a very good one.  I also think that if they could figure out a way to adjust the list quickly, it would be very helpful -- of course, that would also require them to process it quickly.

[nicholas30]

Whatever the list, they should find a way to speed up the process. People who have applied in line with the old list are still waiting and now a new list...... Again delays I suppose.

[schwarzeradler]

Whatever the list, they should find a way to speed up the process. People who have applied in line with the old list are still waiting and now a new list...... Again delays I suppose.

Rightly said, whether new list or old list, they should first attend to the backlog of old applicants (both pre- feb 2008 and post - feb2008). There are people still waiting since 2004/2005/2006/2007 from some countries. I do appreciate the fact that Canada has to think of its own advantages first, however those that are waiting and have been waiting for years should be given a chance too - procedure fairness.

"The Eagle has landed"

[vital]

What about School Teacher's(primary and Secondry).

Regards

[lapore12]

They need to speed up the process especially at centers where nothing is happening.Many people who have opted for New Delhi as their Visa processing centers are getting visa within a time frame of 6-12 months.

Buffalo needs a Wake Up call everyday to remind them that have got some work to do.