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Author Topic: New Delhi Passport Tracking Thread  (Read 397662 times)
anil04_10
Champion Member
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Posts: 1334
Ratings: +295
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 3113
App. Filed.......: 04 October 2010
AOR Received.: 1st (PER) - 04/02/2011; 2nd - 03/03/2011
IELTS Request: With the application
File Transfer...: 04/02/2011
Med's Request: 17/03/2011
VISA ISSUED...: 25/08/2011
LANDED..........: 16/12/2011

« Reply #2640 on: April 06, 2011, 06:09:14 am »

Yippppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......Bhai log not only decision Made.....my consultants recd the VISA as well....will get it in a day or ......thanks alot guys....love u all

Great news Gav ....... Congrats...

Cheers, Anil
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... Smiley जीओ और जीने दो, खाओ और पीने दो Smiley ...

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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2641 on: April 06, 2011, 06:09:45 am »

Thanks brother....your suport n motivation kept me going....thanks a ton brother...Got the VISA as well

GREAT NEWS GAV!!!
CONGRATS!!!  Haven't visited here for a while but remembered to check today to see ur update...
 Smiley Smiley Smiley
Best wishes for a wonderful life in Canada...
cprak0
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2642 on: April 06, 2011, 06:10:09 am »

thanks brother

Congrats Gav
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2643 on: April 06, 2011, 06:12:01 am »

thanks manish brothergot the visa as well


Congratulations Gav !! for the Decision Made.. The only update for this week!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________
* Updated as of 6-April-2011  * ('TO RECEIVE SECTION'sorted with passport submit dates)
*FTH   - Foreign Travel History
*D-01  - Diff  between 'PP-Submit' & 'Visa-Receipt/ current date'
*D-02  - Diff  between 'Medical Done' & 'Visa-Receipt/ current date'
*D-03  - Diff  between 'File Transfer' & 'Visa-Receipt /current date'

__________________________________________________________________________________________

Name
NOC
FTH  
File Transfer
In Process
Med Req  
Med Done    
PP Submit  
VISA Recd
D-01 *
D-02 *
D-03 *
** RECEIVED **
prsh_patel 02
0213
-
03-Feb-10
06-Jul-10
08-Jul-10
01-Oct-10
01-Oct-10
26-Oct-10
25
25
265
drsujaprabu
4121
-
16-Dec-09
16-Aug-10
18-Aug-10
13-Sep-10
18-Sep-10
03-Nov-10
46
51
322
Simon123 01
AEO
-
30-Mar-10
06-Jul-10
20-Sep-10
15-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
03-Nov-10
15
19
218
imran007
-
-
22-Dec-09
09-Sep-10
15-Sep-10
25-Sep-10
28-Sep-10
06-Nov-10
39
42
319
milinddesai
0213
-
13-Jan-10
-
27-Sep-10
08-Oct-10
-
07-Nov-10
-
30
298
Shubash 03
0213
-
10-Feb-10
16-Jun-10
28-Jun-10
23-Jul-10
25-Jul-10
29-Nov-10
127
129
292
bnimsin
-
-
10-Dec-09
12-Apr-10
03-Sep-10
04-Sep-10
06-Sep-10
29-Nov-10
84
86
354
anupshinkoo
0111
-
20-Jan-10
03-Oct-10
02-Oct-10
07-Oct-10
14-Oct-10
02-Dec-10
49
56
316
Jacob3333
3142
-
20-Jan-10
28-Sep-10
01-Oct-10
13-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
03-Dec-10
45
51
317
Benjamin Sapkota
4131
-
20-Jan-10
20-Sep-10
20-Sep-10
04-Oct-10
15-Oct-10
06-Dec-10
52
63
320
Rainy78
6241
-
27-Jan-10
03-Aug-10
26-Aug-10
14-Sep-10
08-Oct-10
07-Dec-10
60
84
314
Ankit_20
0213
-
17-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
23-Oct-10
01-Nov-10
13-Dec-10
42
51
299
BCN
0111
-
27-Jan-10
14-Oct-10
18-Oct-10
22-Oct-10
23-Oct-10
15-Dec-10
53
54
322
mandm
-
-
10-Feb-10
11-Oct-10
17-Oct-10
17-Oct-10
05-Nov-10
15-Dec-10
40
59
308
saky
0213
-
03-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
15-Oct-10
21-Oct-10
25-Oct-10
15-Dec-10
51
55
315
CAforCA
0111
-
27-Jan-10
06-Oct-10
06-Oct-10
11-Oct-10
14-Dec-10
05-Jan-11
22
86
343
laxmikanthms 09
0213
-
10-Feb-10
28-Oct-10
09-Nov-10
03-Dec-10
11-Dec-10
12-Jan-11
32
40
336
Thommo
-
-
-
-
15-Sep-10
13-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
14-Jan-11
87
93
-
Pankaj 10
-
-
07-Dec-09
07-Apr-10
23-Nov-10
12-Dec-10
13-Dec-10
15-Jan-11
33
34
404
Candreamz
-
-
27-Jan-10
-
06-Oct-10
14-Oct-10
18-Oct-10
19-Jan-11
93
97
357
sachin4canada 
3111
-
10-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
20-Oct-10
28-Oct-10
02-Nov-10
19-Jan-11
78
83
343
Gauri
4121
-
03-Mar-10
19-Oct-10
22-Oct-10
02-Nov-10
06-Nov-10
22-Jan-11
77
81
325
din_nep 06
-
-
19-Oct-09
04-Mar-10
12-May-10
22-Nov-10
25-Nov-10
22-Jan-11
58
61
460
Sandhujatt    08
-
-
03-Feb-10
-
21-May-10
29-Dec-10
30-Dec-10
24-Jan-11
25
26
355
pshhe
1111
-
02-Feb-10
02-Nov-10
10-Nov-10
16-Nov-10
19-Nov-10
25-Jan-11
67
70
357
vicky_delhi 12
0213
-
27-Jan-10
05-Oct-10
5-Oct-10
25-Oct-10
28-Oct-10
05-Feb-11
100
103
374
leoismyname
-
-
25-Jan-10
26-Oct-10
01-Nov-10
25-Nov-10
06-Dec-10
05-Feb-11
61
72
376
hands
-
-
02-Feb-10
02-Apr-10
07-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
24-Oct-10
07-Feb-11
106
111
370
Ashu0044
4131
-
27-Jan-10
12-Oct-10
05-Oct-10
27-Oct-10
11-Nov-10
11-Feb-11
92
107
380
ajithpl 07
0213
Y
17-Feb-10
26-Oct-10
02-Nov-10
06-Nov-10
10-Nov-10
11-Feb-11
93
97
359
Isha
17-Feb-10
02-Nov-10
1-Nov-10
12-Nov-10
16-Nov-10
14-Feb-11
90
94
362
konda
4131
Y
10-Feb-10
13-Oct-10
18-Oct-10
30-Oct-10
01-Nov-10
15-Feb-11
106
108
370
cprak0 05                 
4121
Y
18-Dec-09
08-Sep-10
18-Sep-10
04-Nov-10
02-Dec-10
15-Feb-11
75
103
424
thomas78
0213
Y
17-Feb-10
18-Oct-10
03-Nov-10
13-Nov-10
13-Nov-10
15-Feb-11
94
94
363
quidee
0213
-
17-Feb-10
-
15-Jan-11
21-Jan-11
28-Jan-11
17-Feb-11
20
27
365
sja
3152
-
02-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
21-Oct-10
26-Oct-10
27-Oct-10
18-Feb-11
114
115
385
Vidya
3142
Y
10-Feb-10
07-Oct-10
11-Oct-10
04-Nov-10
10-Nov-10
19-Feb-11
101
107
374
Naavy100
0111
Y
10-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
07-Dec-10
07-Dec-10
22-Feb-11
76
76
376
sujimon
-
-
17-Feb-10
02-Nov-10
04-Nov-10
30-Nov-10
06-Dec-10
24-Feb-11
80
86
372
sgopala2
0111
N
12-Jun-10
26-Oct-10
26-Oct-10
05-Nov-10
13-Nov-10
24-Feb-11
103
111
257
johncool
4131
N
07-Feb-10
-
11-Oct-10
25-Oct-10
25-Nov-10
14-Feb-11
81
112
372
pompi 
4131
Y
31-Mar-10
-
-
-
10-Feb-11
17-Feb-11
7
-
323
CAPR
0213
Y
17-Feb-10
04-Jan-11
06-Jan-11
13-Jan-11
14-Jan-11
17-Feb-11
34
35
367
nsukan 
0213
Y
17-Feb-10
27-Oct-10
22-Oct-10
03-Nov-10
11-Nov-10
28-Feb-11
109
117
376
Singh092120  
9212
-
17-Feb-10
06-Jul-10
20-Jan-11
20-Jan-11
31-Jan-11
22-Feb-11
22
33
370
vermajagdish     
-
-
17-Feb-10
28-Oct-10
14-Dec-10
29-Dec-10
05-Jan-11
1-Mar-11
55
62
377
ankipanki  
-
-
30-Dec-09
10-Sep-10
-
15-Oct-10
15-Oct-10
1-Mar-11
137
137
426
setcanada
1111
Y
17-Feb-10
02-Nov-10
18-Dec-10
28-Dec-10
28-Dec-10
2-Mar-11
64
64
378
MNN
4131
Y
17-Feb-10
26-Oct-11
26-Oct-11
9-Nov-11
12-Nov-11
2-Mar-11
110
113
378
stev 11
0213
Y
08-Feb-10
10-Oct-10
-
15-Nov-10
15-Nov-10
2-Mar-11
107
108
388
nwaraich
4131
N
10-Feb-10
19-Oct-10
21-Oct-10
23-Oct-10
26-Oct-10
22-Mar-11
147
150
405
CBI
1111
Y
17-Feb-10
30-Nov-10
23-Dec-10
07-Jan-11
11-Jan-11
22-Mar-11
70
74
398
charmi
4131
N
03-Mar-10
18-Jan-11
19-Jan-11
24-Jan-11
24-Jan-11
22-Mar-11
57
57
384
Jatt
0213
Y
03-Feb-10
11-Oct-10
13-Oct-10
17-Nov-10
23-Nov-10
23-Mar-11
120
126
413
jassi_cool1980
1111
Y
17-Mar-10
-
12-Feb-11
16-Feb-11
21-Feb-11
26-Mar-11
33
38
374
imran7799
0213
-
03-Mar-10
22-Dec-10
02-Feb-11
26-Feb-11
28-Feb-11
28-Mar-11
28
30
390

* TO RECEIVE * 




Gav 16
4131
-
27-Jan-10
05-Oct-10
01-Oct-10
13-Oct-10
14-Oct-10
06-Apr-11
174
175
434
letsgocanada
4131
-
27-Jan-10
-
29-Sep-10
15-Oct-10
19-Oct-10
06-Apr-11
169
173
434
drvivek
-
-
03-Feb-10
12-Oct-10
12-Oct-10
10-Nov-10
11-Nov-10
06-Apr-11
146
147
427
dhgohel13           
0213
N
24-Feb-10
02-Nov-10
04-Nov-10
12-Nov-10
25-Nov-10
06-Apr-11
132
145
406
SD2009   04
0213
-
30-Dec-09
09-Sep-10
19-Oct-10
20-Nov-10
27-Nov-10
06-Apr-11
130
137
463
mehak_janvi  14 
1111
N
03-Mar-10
-
12-Jan-11
15-Jan-11
21-Jan-11
06-Apr-11
75
81
399
manish82  
0213
N
10-Mar-10
26-Jan-11
31-Jan-11
31-Jan-11
02-Feb-11
06-Apr-11
63
65
392
lavanyar
4141
-
17-Feb-10
26-Oct-10
-
-
-
06-Apr-11
-
-
413
gpssim
4131
-
03-Mar-10
03-Nov-10
-
-
-
06-Apr-11
-
-
399
sumitbajaj07
0213
Y
14-May-10
-
-
-
-
06-Apr-11
-
-
318
Jessy Joseph
3152
-
15-Mar-10
-
3-Mar-11
14-Mar-11
14-Mar-11
06-Apr-11
23
23
387
ramansra685
4131
-
-
-
13-jan-2011
26-jan-2011
26-jan-2011
06-Apr-11
72
72
-
BugsLife
3142
-
03-Mar-10
13-Dec-10
18-Mar-11
29-Mar-11
31-Mar-11
06-Apr-11
6
8
399
tim50 17
0213
N
-
5-Aug-10
5-Sep-10
24-Sep-10
15-Oct-10
06-Apr-11
174
195
-
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
01 AOE - Arranged Offer of Employment
02 reMedical
03 Some descrepency in son's DoB, Birth Certificate send on 22nd Oct
04 Second Medicals as New born was added to the application
05 New Passports sent again after correction
06 New born baby medical delay. 
07 reMedical
08 first Medicals on 3rd June, Second on 29th december. Passport req on 21 may, first sent on 04 June and sent again on 30th Dec (recalled to add Son's PP)
09  Working in canada and has requested for a special speed up to return to Canada with VO.
10  First Medical request & passport request - 20th May 2010.Requested for the postponment as they were expecting their first baby
11  Query1 solved and send: 27 nov 2010. Last query (2) solved and send: DEC 15 2010.
12  mailing address missing with ND, sent again
13  got re-medical to spouse and resubmitted on 12th March,2011
14  got re-medical to spouse
15 Passport returned for correction and resubmitted on 12th March,2011
16  ECAS 'Decision Made'
17  PNP - Provincial Nomination Program
__________________________________________________________________________________________

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Raj04
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 411
Ratings: +14
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 1233
App. Filed.......: 12-10-10, CC charged on 20-10-10
Doc's Request.: Sent with the Application...
AOR Received.: PER: 09-02-11 , 2nd AOR: 08-03-11
IELTS Request: Sent with the Application...
File Transfer...: 03-03-11 to visa office
Med's Request: 21-03-11
Med's Done....: 26-03-11
Interview........: waived
Passport Req..: 21-03-11,       Passport Sent : 22-04-11   RPRF encash date: 04-05-11   E-Cas Status: Your application was reviewed and we started processing on March 17, 2011. Medical results have been received -  " Decision Made"
VISA ISSUED...: 14-06-11
LANDED..........: August'11

« Reply #2644 on: April 06, 2011, 06:12:42 am »

Hey Ankit,

Count me in the thread.. I have completed my medicals, waiting for my daughter's passport to come back from the passport office which was sent for change in photograph as requested by the CHC. I will be sending the Passport's to visa office as soon as it will come to me.

Time-lines:

Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 1233
App. Filed.......: 12-10-10, CC charged on 20-10-10
AOR Received.: PER: 09-02-11 , 2nd AOR: 08-03-11
File Transfer...: 03-03-11 (Received by Visa Office)
Med's Request: 21-03-11
Med's Done....: 26-03-11
Passport Req..: 21-03-11

Thanks! Raj.
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2645 on: April 06, 2011, 06:13:54 am »

Thanks Kavya...but sister i have not been all positive.....but yes beautiful people like you from the forum kept on giving me positivity during the ordeal of waiting......in the end got the VISA as well....love u guys....god bless all



OMG, Gav,


Thats called positive attitude and not loose hope,,,

Now very very good luck ahead and always remember not to loose hope neither to be negavite for anything u waiting


cheersss
Best wishes,
Kavya
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2646 on: April 06, 2011, 06:18:26 am »

Thanks rakesh ....brother......really owe this to you....u gave sunlight in the darkness with your PM's full of motivations......got the VISA as well brother....planning to visit UAE as well on my way to toronto....will sure meet you in dubai brother......Thanks man ...god bless


Congratulations Gav. Wish you a wonderful life in your dreamland. You are the reason i have been visiting this thread. Developed a sense of camaraderie with all those who submitted passports to CHC, ND in October, around my submission date. You are the last one to get visa out of the active members. I am very happy for you. Patience pays.
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2647 on: April 06, 2011, 06:19:23 am »

Thanks stev.....God bless will have a party in canada soon

Congratulations GAV 
I am really very very happy about you.....
Best wishes for a wonderful life in Canada...

Stev

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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2648 on: April 06, 2011, 06:20:44 am »

Thanks Tim brother.....surely you are next......i am praying for you....with the blessings of mata raani you will get your VISA in couple of weeks.......got this feeling.......God bless

Congratultation GAV.
Its very nice to know and I am very happy. hope mine will be next....Good luck and be in touch.
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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2649 on: April 06, 2011, 06:22:25 am »

Brother....thanks a lot......your motivation.......gave energy to me ...really dont have words to express my feelings for you n everyone on the forum....Thanks a ton brother


Congratsss Gav !! Happy for you !! See i told you na... it will come... congratss again...

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Gav
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 562
Ratings: +13
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2650 on: April 06, 2011, 06:23:10 am »

Thanks Anil

Great news Gav ....... Congrats...

Cheers, Anil
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GIBALA
Star Member
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Posts: 124
Ratings: +0
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 1111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 31 Dec 2009
Doc's Request.: 19 Feb 2010
AOR Received.: 2nd AOR on 24 June 2010
File Transfer...: 24 Feb 2010
Med's Request: 13 Jan 2011
Med's Done....: 1 Feb 2011
Passport Req..: sent on 10 Feb 2011

« Reply #2651 on: April 06, 2011, 06:25:54 am »

Congratulations Gav ........ Happy for you !!!!

Wish you a happy settlement  Smiley Smiley
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calgaryy
Star Member
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Ratings: +1

« Reply #2652 on: April 06, 2011, 06:29:06 am »

Hey Gav ...
Congratulations !!....i also submitted my passports and got medicals done on 14th march ...i was wondering if u got any receipt of the RPRF DD before getting the visa ?...and if so when did u get it ?

Thanks
Uzma.
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Gav
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: Nov 13, 2009
AOR Received.: 13 Feb, 2010
File Transfer...: 27 Jan 2010
Med's Request: 5 oct 2010
Med's Done....: 13 Oct 2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 05 Oct 2010
VISA ISSUED...: 2 Apr 2011
LANDED..........: 11 May 2011

« Reply #2653 on: April 06, 2011, 06:33:26 am »

Thanks Brother ....God bless


Congratulations Gav ........ Happy for you !!!!

Wish you a happy settlement  Smiley Smiley
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manish82
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Posts: 349
Ratings: +6
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 0213
App. Filed.......: 13-01-2010
Doc's Request.: 03-03-2010
Nomination.....: NA
AOR Received.: 05-07-2010
IELTS Request: Cleared : Apr'10 with 7.5 bands
File Transfer...: 10-03-2010
Med's Request: 31-01-2011 (Dated 20-01-2011)
Med's Done....: 02-02-2011
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: 31-01-2011 (Dated 20-01-2011)
VISA ISSUED...: 01-06-2011
LANDED..........: 07-07-2011

« Reply #2654 on: April 06, 2011, 06:59:30 am »

Now thats what I call real transform.. suddenly from no where you now got everything you waited for so so long..

Best wishes for the happy settlement.. Also these are your days so dont forget us in your prayer, may be we all blessed with visas by your prayers..

- Manish


thanks manish brothergot the visa as well


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