NEED URGENT ADVICE FROM QORAX, SAKI, PPM, LEON...ECAS DM: LETTER REC'VD

[starlight30]

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up?
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone?
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

[Tonucml]

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up?
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone?
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

better you send a personal message to them.

[toenjoy]

Dear starlight30,

I would advise you to write a letter of appeal to Program Manager to particular CIC offcie sooner and later you will receive response.

when you send you appleal letter along with supporting docs in envelop.

Write "URGENT  ATTN:PROGRAM MANAGER" on the envelop.

your answers of 3 questions find below.
Regards,

toenjoy.

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up?

Yes
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone?
Yes /NO
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.

NO NO and NO

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

[starlight30]

Dear starlight30,

I would advise you to write a letter of appeal to Program Manager to particular CIC offcie sooner and later you will receive response.

when you send you appleal letter along with supporting docs in envelop.

Write "URGENT  ATTN:PROGRAM MANAGER" on the envelop.

your answers of 3 questions find below.
Regards,

toenjoy.

Thank you so  much toenjoy for responding. I will inform my friend immediately regarding your suggestion. By the way, the particular CIC office that you mean is the "Visa Office" where she submitted her full docs before?

I saw your answers to the 3 questions below and its very frustrating on our part to pay for such a big amount in the hope of AEO.

[toenjoy]

Dear starlight30,

No need to say thank you. this what you can get from this forum.

Visa office mean local visa office where your friend's submitted her full application.

pls let me know anything else you wanna know..

Regards,

toenjoy

Thank you so  much toenjoy for responding. I will inform my friend immediately regarding your suggestion. By the way, the particular CIC office that you mean is the "Visa Office" where she submitted her full docs before?

I saw your answers to the 3 questions below and its very frustrating on our part to pay for such a big amount in the hope of AEO.

[saki]

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up? YES
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone? Yes / No depends how geniune is consultant.
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.
No

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

Cheers
Saki

[PMM]

Hi

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up?
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone?
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

Remember your friend "bought" an AEO from consultant for a job that probably never existed when s/he became a PR.  CIC/CHC has finally caught on to this scam, that is why AEO takes 6 months to process. 

For SW2 (arranged employment offer) proof of the arranged employment offer (AEO) must be
included in the application. The AEO must still be valid at the time of final determination of
eligibility and should be sufficiently detailed to support the claim that an offer of employment has
been made to the applicant on an indeterminate basis. The AEO should include the employer‘s
name, address, phone number and any other contact information. If the applicant has a
permanent job offer confirmed by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada
(HRSDC)/Service Canada, a photocopy of the confirmation which was sent to the employer
should also be included. Visa officers should be able to use tools such as on-line directories or
open source materials to confirm the existence of the employer. The visa officer should
corroborate the information about the employer with any NESS employment validations that might
exist in CAIPS.

[starlight30]

Hi

Remember your friend "bought" an AEO from consultant for a job that probably never existed when s/he became a PR.  CIC/CHC has finally caught on to this scam, that is why AEO takes 6 months to process. 

For SW2 (arranged employment offer) proof of the arranged employment offer (AEO) must be
included in the application. The AEO must still be valid at the time of final determination of
eligibility and should be sufficiently detailed to support the claim that an offer of employment has
been made to the applicant on an indeterminate basis. The AEO should include the employer‘s
name, address, phone number and any other contact information. If the applicant has a
permanent job offer confirmed by Human Resources and Skills Development Canada
(HRSDC)/Service Canada, a photocopy of the confirmation which was sent to the employer
should also be included. Visa officers should be able to use tools such as on-line directories or
open source materials to confirm the existence of the employer. The visa officer should
corroborate the information about the employer with any NESS employment validations that might
exist in CAIPS.

Thank you for the clarification PMM. It is not that she bought an AEO from the consultant, only that she was required to pay 10K as an assurance that she will not withdraw from the offer made by her possible employer when she received her visa. The sad thing is while the AEO is being processed in Canada, she received a rejection notice for her designated visa officer. Her ECAS says that a decision was made and indeed she received a letter stating the reason for rejection. Is there a possibility/chance that she can still continue with her application IF ever the AEO is received in the future?

[qorax]

Thank you for the clarification PMM. It is not that she bought an AEO from the consultant, only that she was required to pay 10K as an assurance that she will not withdraw from the offer made by her possible employer when she received her visa. The sad thing is while the AEO is being processed in Canada, she received a rejection notice for her designated visa officer. Her ECAS says that a decision was made and indeed she received a letter stating the reason for rejection. Is there a possibility/chance that she can still continue with her application IF ever the AEO is received in the future?

Practically, quite bleak.
Qorax

[harry0711]

hi

[salmanahm]

Collecting huge amount of money for AEO is not legal. CHC is responsible for the verification of any AEO from HRSDC.
for further information read the link below.
http://www.rhdcc-hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/contracts-forms/emp5275e.shtml
Regarding appeals against VO it is not allowed to personally visit the VO. (Other forum members please comment as I heard it from some friend who got rejected and appealed in canadian court)
Regards
Salman

Dear Seniors (Qorax, saki, ppm,leon),

I am soliciting your advice/thoughts in behalf of my friend who received a letter from the embassy last January 21, 2011 telling that her application was rejected because her NOC code did not match with her job description. On February 1, 2011 she sent a letter of appeal to reconsider her application but no reply was received until that her status online changed from RBVO to Decision made.

With this she asked advice from our highly paid consultant and was instructed to just "patiently wait" for the reply of Embassy and further stated that she is not allowed to visit the VO to make a personal follow up regarding the status of her appeal. According to the consultant this is against the policy of the VO.

Back in the early stage of waiting for the status (exactly 3 months after we submitted our full docs to VO), our consultant required us to pay 10K (refundable) as "bond" for the employer who filed for an AEO. This is to ensure (accdg to the consultant) that we will not back out for this offer after we received our visa.

My concern here is that:
1. Is it true that an applicant is not allowed to visit the VO for personal follow up?
2. Is the AEO process is genuine? Being the transaction was monopolized by the consultant alone?
3. Is it legal that she collected huge amount of money from us for security bond purposes of AEO? By the way, the money was deposited in her bank account. She further informed us that the immigration officer has direct access to her account to view our deposit everytime she is requiring money from us.

Appreciate your comments/thoughts on this matter.

Thank you!

[starlight30]

Collecting huge amount of money for AEO is not legal. CHC is responsible for the verification of any AEO from HRSDC.
for further information read the link below.
http://www.rhdcc-hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/contracts-forms/emp5275e.shtml
Regarding appeals against VO it is not allowed to personally visit the VO. (Other forum members please comment as I heard it from some friend who got rejected and appealed in canadian court)
Regards
Salman

Thank you for your thoughts salmanahm. Yes, you are right visiting VO personally is not allowed. The case of my friend was already closed and it is very sad that her application ended this way. She has been decided by the disignated visa officer handling her case so early. Shye sent a letter of appeal but again, she was rejected for the second time and nothing she can do about it now but to accept her fate.

[salmanahm]

If the applicant is 100% sure that there is a mistake from the VO in the evaluation then s/he reserves the right to appeal in the court of law but there are very rare chances of such mistakes. I searched the decisions of federal court related to FSW immigration.
Ref
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2010/2010fc225/2010fc225.html
If you are sure that there is some problem you can get free adivce from Campbell Cohen or any other law firm.
Be sure to confirm the law society membership of any soliciter you hire.
Regards
Salman

Thank you for your thoughts salmanahm. Yes, you are right visiting VO personally is not allowed. The case of my friend was already closed and it is very sad that her application ended this way. She has been decided by the disignated visa officer handling her case so early. Shye sent a letter of appeal but again, she was rejected for the second time and nothing she can do about it now but to accept her fate.