need help asap!!!!

[boulderguy]

hello everyone im new her..

well this is my case .. can someone help me please.

i live in the us ilegally and im from mexico i have been living here since 2001, and now my girlfriend and i want to move to canada, she is a canadian permanent resident, we have plans of getting married, but im afraid my ilegall status her wont let me.  i know i dont need a visa to enter canada, my plans are to get to canada ans stydy and later work,  what should i do...???????? thanks for your help

[thaiguy]

You can get married in the U.S., but you won't be able to get a U.S. green card without returning to Mexico first.

So I suggest you can go to Canada as a visitor, marry your girlfriend, and then have her sponsor you in-country for permanent residence.

Keep in mind that if you go from the U.S. to Canada and, for some reason, Canadian immigration doesn't let you in, you're going to have problems because you can't return to the place you left - the U.S.  So I suggest you go the safe route and fly from Mexico to Canada.

Please note that if you tell Canadian immigration of your plans to marry or they'll deny you entry.  So you'll have to be a "tourist" and be prepared to tell them what you're going to do on your vacation.  You must also be able to show you have enough money to pay for your vacation.

Good luck.

[boulderguy]

thanks thai guy,,, yeah this is my plan let me know what you think.

she invited me over right? so i said ok thats fine, im gonna go to mexico get my passport and flight to canada, i also heard that canada costum ask you questions, and that if they dont believe you they will deny ur entry ...
 so after i arrive in canada im gonna look for schools, im 25 and to be honest i havent even got my ged, my highschool diploma, but i want to get in the right track, and be someone again, im saving money for me and my gf, and for school as well,  i will only say that im going to visit her, but wouldnt they think im gonna stay with her  permamantly? im scared cuz i tried getting a visa to come to the us.. and i got denied, ugh ,, i tried 3 times.. anyways i hope you can route me in the right dirrection.

thanks again...

[thaiguy]

Because of your age and the fact that you'd be unemployed, they'll be very skeptical of your intention to take a vacation.  So I suggest you have some very convincing plans, as well as a lot of funds to pay for your trip.

You can tell them you have friends in Canada, and when they ask who, tell them about your girlfriend.  You should downplay your relationship.

Good luck.

[boulderguy]

well i will have money.. and i will say that my gf lives there and that im going to visit her... thats it.

but i will say that .. i wanna go back to school so bad..  im scared of getting denied again


ok so step by step what do you recommend i should do.

i know that if i say that im gonna marry her in canada they will not let me entry the country,


im confused

[thaiguy]

It's hard to say what you should tell them.  The truth is always best, because you'll be most convincing.  So just tell them you're visiting your friend and looking at schools, but you're going back to Mexico to apply for a student visa.

Be prepared to tell them what you want to study.

[boulderguy]

i want to become a physician assistant certified, i know its gonna be a long time , but im ready,

what is the reason of your visit: just visiting a friend and looking for someschools as well.

is that better?

also thaiguy... how long is the process of me becoming a PR ? from when we get married til the day i actually have the PR card in my hands? can i go to canada in the mean while? just to visit my gf?

[jose-aguilera]

Tambien puedes venir a Mexico y comprar un Tour a Canada en una agencia de viajes. Asi seria mas facil que te creyeran, aunque gastarias un poco mas de dinero porque en el tour tienes que pagar el viaje de ida y vuelta y perderías el boleto de regreso al quedarte allá.

[boulderguy]

a que te refieres con perder el boleto? algo asi como que oooppss se me cayo y no lo encuentro o ya no me quiero regresar excusa?  y tu dime como le hiciste o cual es tu caso?

[jose-aguilera]

Cuando vas como turista a Canadá y contratas un Tour (viaje turístico en grupo) en una agencia de viajes, tienes que pagar por todo el viaje, incluyendo el pasaje de avión de ida y regreso. Cuando llegas al aeropuerto y el oficial te pregunta el motivo de tu visita tu muestras los documentos del Tour que contrataste y dices que vas por X número de dias (los días que dura el Tour) y es más fácil que te crean. Ya estando dentro de Canada puedes hacer el recorrido del Tour o no pero lo importante es que ya estas adentro. Al decir "pierdes el boleto de regreso" me refiero a que ya lo pagaste pero no lo vas a usar porque tu intención es no regresarte.

[boulderguy]

ahhhhh ok,,,  excellente  no sabes cuanto me has ayudado...

sabes algo acerca de cuanto se tarda el proceso de hacerme residente de canada? atravez de mi novia .. futura esposa, ella es residente permanente en canada and she wants to sponsor me... how long does this procees take?

[jose-aguilera]

I think members that have gone into the process may give you a better advise.

[LCS]

Are you people kidding? It's stories like this about "how do I fool the officials at the border to make them think I'm here as a tourist when I'm already an illegal IN the U.S. and I won't use my return flight ticket and I'll stay in Canada", that make it so difficult for the rest of us LEGITMATE sponsors to get our spouses here and makes the Gov't so suspicious of everyone!!!! Jose Aguilera you're tellling him it's easier than he thinks?  Boulderguy, you're already illegal in the U.S., I would hope they'll ask you for ID and/or a passport entering Canada and hopefully stop you from pulling this scam, or loophole or however you are trying to enter Canada. Is anyone in Canadian Immigration reading this stuff and catching what the translation is, and watching for these people at the airports and border crossings?

[Gotchaa]

Dear LCS, no body from Canadian Embassies anywhere around the world must be reading such blogs and they shouldnt either. Because if they do they will be more pissed at the criticism going on in here and people like you and me will suffer more as they might recognise us from our discriptions and make it more harder for us to be with our spouses. It wont serve us any good honestly speaking. We should only confront them with facts and that doesnt happen here in such blogs. We say what we feel like either right or wrong, doesnt matter. its a place to let out our frustration to some extent, not to jeopardize our future. I hope you understand. wish you all the best. People who are liars, cheats and make a fool of the system will pay for their deeds for sure. They think they are being very smart by lying, which is not a nice thing to do at all as a human being. They might be smart but not better human beings for sure. They are like walking talking disease in the form of human beings.

[boulderguy]

all i have to say that youre not perpect lcs,, the reason why i want to stay in canada is because im tired of being awayfrom my gf, i tried 3 times to get my visa, i never lied and i got denied, but im afraid to be away from her.

and gotcha thank you for backing us up, im not trying to lie to the customs in canada, i just wanna see her, hug her, be with her, but anyways, im just really mad at the fact that stupid people like lcs dont understand.

its not even worth it fighting with people like that. lcs you make yourself look stupid, we dont have to say anything you said it all.

good luck to everyone.

[Gotchaa]

well boulderguy i m sorry but i wasnt taking or supporting your side. If you really ask me, i would be more inclined towards LCS and support her. But I dont want us to fight here. we all miss our love ones as terribly as u would have missed ur girl friend, but it didnt lead us to cheat the system or lie. there is a thing called self respect which is more important in my opinion. my wife wouldnt be proud of me if i cheat and abuse the system just to be with her. She misses me alot and so do i but we r still going through the legitimate way. I could have fooled the system if i wanted too. I have multiple US visa for five years too and I can go to US anytime I want. But why should I be forced to do something which I dont want? and why should i choose a way to go somewhere where I have to by illegal means? Thats not the way. You are suffering from this illegal life even though you are with your girl friend right? Why? whats the use of going through that illegal means when in the end you still got frustrated. You only contributed towards making immigration more tougher for everyone of us. I do understand your feelings when you said you are afraid to miss your girl friend. but please try to understand others' feelings too. I wish you so much well so that you can get out of ur frustrating illegal life and live happily with your girl friend. I think you owe an apology to LCS for calling her names. She is not wrong. She is only frustrated. You are wrong and frustrated as well. Please try to see the difference and be friends with everyone. You will feel less frustrated. Take care

[LCS]

Listen you illegal immigration dodger, don't call ME stupid. You are the one who stated right in your post in spanish, you don't think people could read it, that you were trying to figure out a way to get into Canada on a visitor's visa and just stay, to say you lost your ticket and figure out some way to stay just like you did going into the U.S.
The rest of us have our LEGAL MARRIED SPOUSES waiting in another country, WE have not seen our husbands or wives for a long time and can not bring them here yet. You think I don't understand? I haven't seen my LEGAL HUSBAND for a year. We HONEST people have made our applications up front, legally, and have waited so much time, spent the money and are being delayed while immigration has to be overly careful about processing information because there are always people like you trying to get around the system and ruining it for the rest of us. YOU don't understand or CARE how your trickery makes it harder for all the rest of us who have taken the legal, correct, long route while you are trying to take the shortcuts.  
Now that you are in the system for being refused 3 times, your name is in the database and it is not likely you will be allowed here. If you're not going to marry, a girlfriend who is not even common-law has no status when it comes to getting a visa for someone who is a flight risk. Even if you were married, she would have to start the landed immigrant process, you would have to return to Mexico to gather all the documentation needed and submit it to the Cdn Embassy there, and wait a year or more until your application is processed and then be IN Mexico to accept the landed immigrant card at the Cdn Embassy there. Thinking about it, you would have had a better chance of getting a visitor's visa into Canada if you had applied for it IN Mexico where your citizenship is, and where Canada does allow vistor's visas to Mexican citizens. How ironic.
"Gotchaa",  he is already paying for the deed, he would likely have gotten a visitor's visa from Mexico, the immigration system is doing the right thing and now has him in the database to refuse entry. Since he's illegal in the U.S., he can't even apply as a TFW from there to get here like a Mexican citizen would. At least the rest of us have our applications being processed the correct and legal way, we are waiting with faith and we will be with our husbands and wives in time. Good for you for also doing things the right way, we have our integrity.     

[Blessed]

 I undestrand you Boulderguy since I have my husbund in US with no legal status he can't go back to Guatemala so I felt like you I wanted to try anything to bring him to Canada but I was told by different lawyers that the best way is to get marry and the apply as a family member it may take over six months but is the easies way otherwise you could get in more troubles trying to get here applying for immigration in Canada is not so easy is a long process.  So my advise for you is not to lie trus in God and have your girlfriend come to US get marry and then she should start to apply for you.  My brother in law was illegal in US and he is here in Canada all you need is to proof that your relashionship is real.  If you came to Canada and they find out you are lying you may never be able to apply for immigration so be smart. I am getting all the requirements in the application to bring my husbund I miss him  so much but I know he will be with me even if it takes a year. 
Bye

[boulderguy]

apology to lcs and gotcha!

if i have posted in spanish is becasue the guy replided to me inspanish.
thats the only reason

im sorry .. i truly apologize to all of you, im just really concerned, and for the record if i didnt care about the laws i would have move to canda illegally  just like i did here..

but this time i wanna do things right.

and i hope things go well for all of us.
again im sorry

and i promise all of you that i will be truthfull with what i do and say.

honestly


boulderguy.

thanks

[Gotchaa]

Goodluck Boulderguy! no hard feelings. just have faith and learn from your mistakes. Remember, only fools walk on thin ice, twice! take care.

LCS, i hope you have forgiven Boulderguy. My sixth sense is very powerful since I have tested it many times. It says you will have a very good news soon. Good luck and take care!

[boulderguy]

whaty do you mean by sixth sense do you mean you think i have good think chance to go with my gf?

[Gotchaa]

sorry boulderguy that was for LCS

[jose-aguilera]

I want to apologize to all because I didn´t think twice before I post my opinion. I was thinking only in a way to get two people together and then make things right. One of the reasons why I want to go to Canada is to get rid of all the corruption that prevades here in Mexico and of which I may be infected. But as a human being I want to learn from my mistakes and change for the better. And again my apologies to anybody that could be offended.

[Lauryn]

ok...
I feel like I was really lucky when i came to CAnada.
I came with a visitor's visa (i don't require a TRV since i'm from spain, and I'm allowed to stay here for a maximum of 6 months). my intention obviouly is to stay here cause my husband is gonna sponsor me from within Canada. When I came, officer ask me at the airport and I said: I'm coming for 6 months to stay with my boyfriend.
he ask me if i had enough money with me cause this was a long stay and i said how much money i had with me (not too much to be honest). So he was concerned that i was gonna stay here for 6 months with a few money only.
I  came with a return ticket cause i knew they were gonna ask for it and i told him that my intention was to be here 6 months with my boyfriend cause we decided that since i can stay here for 6 months, we could be 6 months together, and that he was gonna be supporting me for these 6 months.
he ask me to write down my husband's name, birthday and phone number on a paper, and he called him to see if everything i said was true. My husband was at the airport waiting for me. Obviously he said same things i said and after that call, the officer stamped my passport and told me i wasn't allowed to work or study during this six months, and they let me in.
I don't know if this is gonna help you or give you any idea, but I told the truth, that i was coming to be with him, and it worked.
Good Luck!

[LCS]

Your key information is that you easily got a visitor's visa because you were from Spain, and were automatically able to stay 6 months with that. You had your return airline ticket and all your information correct as to where you were staying etc. Other than the UK, Australia and some others, Canada will not issue a visitor's visa because everyone is considered a flight risk. Especially someone who does not have proper documentation coming in when they may be illegal in the first place.
As another possibility for ppl from those other flight risk countries, a visa may be issued as long as you prove you have a return airline ticket, they know where you are staying and can be traced, and might make you pay a large bond as a guarantee that you will return on your planned date. I heard of one case where a $3,500 bond was required for a woman in order to issue her a visitor's visa for her to visit her extended family in Canada, even though she had a return airline ticket, and back in her own country she had a husband, children and owned a business that she would return to. They still considered her a flight risk.