My expriences so far ... first two days in Toronto!!!

[scylla]

Yeah - I have to side with Sehar. I found that comment shockingly offensive as well when I originally read it.

[melbell_28]

Yeah - I have to side with Sehar. I found that comment shockingly offensive as well when I originally read it.

I thought I was the only one that found it to be very offensive. I'm glad I'm not.

And Sehar, I'm a regular on this forum and i assure you this is not the normal course of conversation on this forum.

[ultimate_mr_universe]

Dear All intelligent, intellectual, emotionally sensitive people...as a regular reader of this forum I would just like to say that Charlotte has all the rights to express her emotions and feelings in this forum as a founder of this forum and I think we should support and allow her to to do so in the future as well. Personally I look at this forum as a journey of her in Toronto( about which I am definitely interested in) which I found reading interesting and helpful. Instead of underlying and srutinizing her posts, I think we should just let her go with the flow and allow her to reach her own conclusions. Everyone has the rights to form his or her opinion and than change it later on. Its completely normal and I would just say its human nature. Ofcourse anyone who disagress with her can always comment and stop reading at this forum and may create a different forum of his or hers, as you all are very capable. But for me, I am reading here because of Charlotte and not because of anyone else and how they feel and would not like to see this going in different direction.....Dear CJ hope to hear more from you......

[CarlyB]

Dear All intelligent, intellectual, emotionally sensitive people...as a regular reader of this forum I would just like to say that Charlotte has all the rights to express her emotions and feelings in this forum as a founder of this forum and I think we should support and allow her to to do so in the future as well. Personally I look at this forum as a journey of her in Toronto( about which I am definitely interested in) which I found reading interesting and helpful. Instead of underlying and srutinizing her posts, I think we should just let her go with the flow and allow her to reach her own conclusions. Everyone has the rights to form his or her opinion and than change it later on. Its completely normal and I would just say its human nature. Ofcourse anyone who disagress with her can always comment and stop reading at this forum and may create a different forum of his or hers, as you all are very capable. But for me, I am reading here because of Charlotte and not because of anyone else and how they feel and would not like to see this going in different direction.....Dear CJ hope to hear more from you......

I could not have said it better myself! - Completely agree with the above post. Give Charlotte a break - she has shared so much and inspired so many.

[soby]

Dear All intelligent, intellectual, emotionally sensitive people...as a regular reader of this forum I would just like to say that Charlotte has all the rights to express her emotions and feelings in this forum as a founder of this forum and I think we should support and allow her to to do so in the future as well. Personally I look at this forum as a journey of her in Toronto( about which I am definitely interested in) which I found reading interesting and helpful. Instead of underlying and srutinizing her posts, I think we should just let her go with the flow and allow her to reach her own conclusions. Everyone has the rights to form his or her opinion and than change it later on. Its completely normal and I would just say its human nature. Ofcourse anyone who disagress with her can always comment and stop reading at this forum and may create a different forum of his or hers, as you all are very capable. But for me, I am reading here because of Charlotte and not because of anyone else and how they feel and would not like to see this going in different direction.....Dear CJ hope to hear more from you......

I am also of the same opinion as of ultimate_mr_universe.
its CJ's thread and let her share her feeling. If you are interested in it then read it or else just ignore it.
Coz i believe every one has a right to express their feeling and views.
Canada is a vast country and I think the experience of one person will not be same as another, so its good to hear from more people as we all will be better prepared for our dream destination.
I am a silent follower of CJ's thread from the beginning and I even have copy pasted her posts for the future reference.
You should not ignore the useful info she has shared before.

Dear CJ, what ever the future has for you, and wherever the destiny takes you, I wish you all the best and you are a wonderful person and you will succeed in whatever you wish to do in life

Cheers
Soby

[sdffgg]

Agree,CJ has the right to state her feelings though I might not agree with her point of view occasionally. When she started posting here, her intention was to share her view with others in aim to educate them and I didn't feel that this thread was meant to humiliate anybody(though I am from the Middle East).

I was following this thread since the beginning. I think CJ added a lot to my view of the immigration idea more than anybody else in this vertual world. Go Charlotte, you have the right to say what is in your mind and I will have respect to it.

 

[qwerbilzak]

Does anyone hear anyone saying Charlotte shouldn't express her views?

No.  No one's saying that. 

Of course she should express her views.

And when we disagree, we should express our views too. 

[clubcanada]

 @ steaky:

Canada is never a “Banana Republic”.  It doesn't produce bananas.  BC nectarines and blackberries are very good btw!

buddy - you made my day... :-)

This is one of those reare cases where I agree with CJ as canada is indeed a "banana republic". everyone who's been job hunting as a recent landed immigrant in canada probably would agree...

[qwerbilzak]

  @   steaky:
buddy - you made my day... :-)

This is one of those reare cases where I agree with CJ as canada is indeed a "banana republic". everyone who's been job hunting as a recent landed immigrant in canada probably would agree...

Lol yes.

Except Canada is by no means a "banana republic".  A banana republic refers to an unstable govt, usually propped up by a single agricultural export.  None of this applies remotely to Canada.  

But if what Charlotte meant is Canada is a very tough place for immigrants, I think there'd be a ton of (if not unanimous) agreement on that!

[zero]

I

am in with you with regard to this. Two kids, no job here, no proper safety net available for some time to be established here and all that stress of losing money while having no job and two kids to maintain, will be a bit too much. Think twice before moving here.

Denmark is not such a bad place although I know they can be quite tough to allow you become really one of their own but at least you have a life there and your kids can grow up nicely and have an almost free education at great universities, after all, Lund in Sweden is not that far away and allow them to study there and then decided whether to move here or not.

  [/glow] 
  [/color] 

Dear CJ and PG,

I am very grateful for your opinion and suggestions. Many thanks. Although I am Danish citizen but if I move once with two children, it will be difficult to come back again and start from the beginning...in Copenhagen. I had done it 2005 in USA and come back here in Copenhagen and start my life from beginning! If you out from the system, their job experienced, it is very difficult to start life without money! I don´t do it more. Therefore who have ideas about two system- Canada and Denmark, only whose could give me good suggestions.  I am like CJ, many times in tourist in Toronto but could not able to see the behind scene. I have also socialist view and I don´t like double moral, which I saw in USA. I have Controller background with SAP super user and I know without job it will very tough to move in Toronto and used all of savings money! Although I have network and friends are living there and will get some short of practical help from them.
I am very risk taking challenging person, but with two children and bad experiences from my past life, I afraid to take and big risk right now! I have not any time to jump a situation without proper information.
Denmark is ok, but they will never give me chance what I want to be, although I am fighting fight a lot. . As a person I am smart professionally and socially, I respect my rich Indian cultural background at the same time Danish cultural background for to expect that if I respect their culture, they will do the same of mine. I practices to achieved a being good human being all through of my life and when Dans are underestimated me or discriminated me only for my colour in the professional world, not daily or networking life, I could not accept it! I know children have many opportunities to move in EU and take education... job,  but what about me if they left me in Denmark  when I am 50 years and difficult to move another country for to start a new job! Thinking and analyzing--

[clubcanada]

Except Canada is by no means a "banana republic".  A banana republic refers to an unstable govt, usually propped up by a single agricultural export.  None of this applies remotely to Canada. 

it doesnt have to be brought into context with an unstable government nor mono-agricultural exports.
'banana republic' is also being used to describe a regime or procedure lacking transparency in the decision making process and/or a system which is based on nepotism favoring personal relationships/buddy network over any objective criteria.

[Baloo]

it doesnt have to be brought into context with an unstable government nor mono-agricultural exports.
'banana republic' is also being used to describe a regime or procedure lacking transparency in the decision making process and/or a system which is based on nepotism favoring personal relationships/buddy network over any objective criteria.

Canada qualifies

[steaky]

Canada qualifies

So as Australia, France, Greece, Romania, India, Ireland, Sri Lanka, Spain, United Kingdom, USA  (according to Wiki!)

[Baloo]

So as Australia, France, Greece, Romania, India, Ireland, Sri Lanka, Spain, United Kingdom, USA  (according to Wiki!)

That may be so, but in Canada nepotism seems to be a national sport...
And it is nowhere as good as hockey 

[jamesbond]

This is Canada... if you can survive it, you do. I won't ...I can't survive this and I long to a place with a real history, a soul and a spirit and people who may not be that friendly like me, but believe me, those who do discriminated me and I met were mostly those from Eastern European countries!!!!

Next time I hire, when I have a similar job in the Netherlands, you bet I won't hire anybody from those places I 've seen here who treated me like trash!

But I shall hire people from India, China, Philippines and a few other nations that I met and were oh so kind to me and are so kind to me to this day.

You are no better than the people who discriminated against you. I thought you are different.