Marriage fraud - tax dollars at work

[Baloo]

Marriage fraud

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/multimedia/video/marriage/marriage.asp

[newtone]

I think Canada is still naive when it comes to arresting these low lives. They should adopt the British way of dealing with marriage fraud problems. After all we are part of common wealth

[Baloo]

So what ten things would you want changed?

[newtone]

So what ten things would you want changed?

1. If found guilty of marriage fraud
    i) Jail Term
    ii) $5000 fine
    iii)  Deportation (iris and finger print scan (to prevent coming on another passport with a different identity) and debarred from entering Canada for 10 years )
2. Surprise visits by immigration officials at your door step
3. 3 years mandatory live together clause
4. Conditional stay for sponsored person
5. Optional yearly review of couple for up to 3 years to access how their relationship is doing
6. Special 1-800 number for victims of marriage fraud
7. Conditional work permit and social security number for sponsored person
8. Conditional travel for sponsored person (cannot be outside canada for more then 3 month in 3 years period)
9. and 10. I have yet to think about, maybe I should apply for immigration minister

[Baloo]

1. If found guilty of marriage fraud
    i) Jail Term
    ii) $5000 fine
    iii)  Deportation (iris and finger print scan (to prevent coming on another passport with a different identity) and debarred from entering Canada for 10 years )
2. Surprise visits by immigration officials at your door step
3. 3 years mandatory live together clause
4. Conditional stay for sponsored person
5. Optional yearly review of couple for up to 3 years to access how their relationship is doing
6. Special 1-800 number for victims of marriage fraud
7. Conditional work permit and social security number for sponsored person
8. Conditional travel for sponsored person (cannot be outside canada for more then 3 month in 3 years period)
9. and 10. I have yet to think about, maybe I should apply for immigration minister

I will wait for 10 - Maybe I would vote for you



Let me play devils advocate here...

What happens if item 3 is in place and one partner starts abusing the other?

[newtone]

I'll tell you once I get the vote ............. lol

Unfortunately abuse is something that needs to be looked at carefully, however for obvious reasons benefit of the doubt should be given to Canadian citizens. Here are some reasons:

1. This person was sponsored by the Canadian in the first place, if it werent for him/her they wouldn't be here in the first place......RIGHT?
2. This person can choose to leave the relationship within 3 years and if he stays in Canada he will automatically be considered illegal. If he leaves Canada no charges will be laid. He/She can always go back to his/her home country and apply as a skilled worker and join the long wait. Its simple......whats important Canada or your lover...... If its canada then go back and join the long line if its your lover them patch things up with them. This way the responsibility is shifted or falls on to the sponsored person rather then the poor canadian citizen....I think its fair. If both are important then sort things out.