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thebeast184
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« on: May 24, 2011, 03:48:24 pm »

Everyone,

My thoughts for this thread is to discuss Vancouver as a place of settlement. Lets discuss housing, costs of living, job market, salaries... you name it. I hope we can also gain some knowledge from those that are settled already/

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 03:51:23 pm »

Just to get started:

My biggests concern in vancouver is both the labor market and housing costs. I recently have been reading housing articles and reasearching housing and my biggest concer is how does salaries compare to housing costs? here is an article about housing costs


   B.C., Vancouver remain least-affordable markets in country: RBC report
 Home price gains in city expected to put 'high degree of stress' on market

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+remain+least+affordable+markets+country+report/4815507/story.html#ixzz1NIzFW9q3

Canadian housing affordability eroded in the first quarter of 2011, with B.C. and Vancouver showing the sharpest erosion, according to the latest Housing Trends and Affordability report released by RBC Economics Research.

"We have to monitor the Vancouver market very closely," the report's author, RBC senior economist Robert Hogue, said in an interview.

"It's reached levels of affordability that are starting to be worrisome and it may become more worrisome going forward.

"It's going to get worse." According to the report, affordability eroded in most markets in Canada.

"The sharpest deterioration occurred in B.C. -more specifically in Vancouver -where significant home price gains since the start of the year have propelled the already elevated costs of home ownership even higher," the report said.

The report concluded that owning a home is becoming less affordable in Canada as housing prices rise and that it will continue to do so as the Bank of Canada tightens interest rates later this year.

The report reverses six months of improving affordability that was driven by declining mortgage rates.

But with mortgage rates no longer falling and home prices continuing to rise -up eight per cent year-over-year to an average $372,544 as reported earlier this week by the Canadian Real Estate Association -the first quarter represented a transition to a period of diminishing affordability, said Hogue.

"Interest rates will likely soon start to rise again, leading to a period of steady increases in home ownership costs," said Hogue.

"This in turn will contribute to a flattening in Canadian housing demand going forward."

Overall affordability levels -which measure the proportion of pre-tax income needed to service the costs of owning a specified category of home -are still near historical averages across Canada. And continued growth in household income is also expected to cushion the blow of rising borrowing costs.

But in Vancouver, the cost of owning a detached bungalow -including mortgage payments, taxes and utilities -has soared to 72.1 per cent of all monthly pre-tax household income.

That compares to the national average, which edged up to 40.5 per cent in the first quarter from 39.8 per cent in the previous quarter.

The higher the reading, the more difficult it is to afford a home.

In Canada's largest cities, after Vancouver's 3.4 percentage point rise to 72.1, Toronto at 47.5 per cent was up 0.8 of a percentage point, Montreal at 43.1 per cent was up 2.0, Ottawa at 39.0 per cent was up 0.4, Calgary at 35.9 per cent was up 0.9 and Edmonton at 31.5 per cent was up 0.5.

For B.C., the report added: "We believe that deteriorating affordability will weigh increasingly on housing demand by B.C. households and raise the risk that they may be forced to the sidelines in substantial numbers, potentially causing painful market disruptions."

The report's section dealing with Vancouver, entitled Vancouver -Testing the boundaries of rationality, concluded that "frenzied pricing action has shown few signs of letting up since the start of 2011.

"Fuelled by strong demand for highend properties, home prices crushed old records in the first quarter of the year, surging between 4.5 per cent and 7.2 per cent depending on the housing type relative to the closing three months of 2010. This represented increases of as much as $50,000 in a single quarter based on Royal LePage data.

"Such steaming up of property values far outpaced income gains of Vancouver-area households and further exacerbated the market's already poor affordability.

"We fear that the Vancouver market is becoming increasingly disconnected from local demand conditions and vulnerable to a painful correction, especially once interest rates resume their ascent."

The report said the average price of a standard two-storey house in Canada stood at $383,000 in the first quarter of 2011, a 4.2-per-cent increase over the same period in 2010, and requiring a qualifying income of $84,500.

By comparison, B.C.'s average was $654,000, a 5.5-per-cent increase in the same period, requiring an income of $126,900. For Vancouver, the average price was $821,900, a 7.7-percent increase over 2010, requiring an income of $156,000.



Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+remain+least+affordable+markets+country+report/4815507/story.html#ixzz1NIxykbU3
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 03:55:45 pm »

Here is a nice site to find temporary housing while you find a permanent one:

http://www.airbnb.com/

Rod Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 04:05:12 pm »

Nice thread. We're planning to land in Vancouver end of August 2011, and permanently settle there by the end of this year.

If I come across any useful links I'll post them here.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 06:11:04 pm »

Hi Guys

is Vancouver is good for software JOB ?
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 06:59:12 pm »

I used lo live in Vancouver for more than 4.years.Last september my family and myselef are moved to Ontario in Toronto for many reasons:

1.Vancouver is the most expensive city in Canada.Everything is more expensive than in other parts of Canada:housing,food,gas.....everything!

2.In BC everybody pay 114$ per month for Medical cards (for all family).In all other provinces this is free.In Ontario OHIP card is free,you dont need to pay.

3.In BC there is only one insurence company for car insIurance-ICBC.They are very expensive.They are asking for approximately 400-500$ per month for new drivers-for all immigrants around the world.In Ontario there are thousands of companies for that.You can easy find good deal for yourself-about 100-150$ per month.

4.Half of Vancouver are Chinese people.You have filling that you are in China,not in Canada.

5.Vancouver have rainy wheather more than 9.months in year.This is very frustrating.People are very deppresed and there are so many suicides every year.

6.In Vancouver there are much more Starbucks than Tim Hortons  Cool
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 07:16:19 pm »

Hey Purkoni,

Thanks for great advice +1. What is the truth about the job market?

Rod Cool

I used lo live in Vancouver for more than 4.years.Last september my family and myselef are moved to Ontario in Toronto for many reasons:

1.Vancouver is the most expensive city in Canada.Everything is more expensive than in other parts of Canada:housing,food,gas.....everything!

2.In BC everybody pay 114$ per month for Medical cards (for all family).In all other provinces this is free.In Ontario OHIP card is free,you dont need to pay.

3.In BC there is only one insurence company for car insIurance-ICBC.They are very expensive.They are asking for approximately 400-500$ per month for new drivers-for all immigrants around the world.In Ontario there are thousands of companies for that.You can easy find good deal for yourself-about 100-150$ per month.

4.Half of Vancouver are Chinese people.You have filling that you are in China,not in Canada.

5.Vancouver have rainy wheather more than 9.months in year.This is very frustrating.People are very deppresed and there are so many suicides every year.

6.In Vancouver there are much more Starbucks than Tim Hortons  Cool
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2011, 08:26:22 pm »

I dont know now.Before i move to Ontario there were big crisis.This is the only reason why am I decided to change province.Many of my friends from Vancouver loses their jobs too.

But now I dont know the real situation.Please ask somebody else.
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2011, 08:34:48 pm »

Dear members
 can you tell me about physiotherapy jobs in vancouver
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 06:07:39 am »

That's not entirely true.

I used to live in Ontario for more than 5 years and now my family and I moved to Vancouver.

Housing and gas in Vancouver are more expensive than most other places across the country.  Food is generally more expensive especially in small cities.

Yes BC Medicare cost you but all other provinces reflects this in its annual tax rate

ICBC might have charge new residents for $400-500 per month, but if you brought your home country no claims letter, ICBC will give you discounts, up to 40%. 

I would say much of the city residents are Chinese but in the downtown core most are not.



I used lo live in Vancouver for more than 4.years.Last september my family and myselef are moved to Ontario in Toronto for many reasons:

1.Vancouver is the most expensive city in Canada.Everything is more expensive than in other parts of Canada:housing,food,gas.....everything!

2.In BC everybody pay 114$ per month for Medical cards (for all family).In all other provinces this is free.In Ontario OHIP card is free,you dont need to pay.

3.In BC there is only one insurence company for car insIurance-ICBC.They are very expensive.They are asking for approximately 400-500$ per month for new drivers-for all immigrants around the world.In Ontario there are thousands of companies for that.You can easy find good deal for yourself-about 100-150$ per month.

4.Half of Vancouver are Chinese people.You have filling that you are in China,not in Canada.

5.Vancouver have rainy wheather more than 9.months in year.This is very frustrating.People are very deppresed and there are so many suicides every year.

6.In Vancouver there are much more Starbucks than Tim Hortons  Cool
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 08:18:54 am »

Latest consumer price index

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/subjects-sujets/cpi-ipc/cpi-ipc-eng.htm

City Comparison...  Embarrassed I guess vancouver is the most expensive one....

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/econ45a-eng.htm

The good news is that the rate it was increasing has slowed down apparently

http://www40.statcan.gc.ca/l01/cst01/cpis02a-eng.htm

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2011, 12:10:09 am »

You will find "visible minorities" choose to live in different areas around Vancouver and the Lower Mainland.  Many Asian families choose to live in Richmond, Oakridge, Kerrisdale.  Many South Asian families are in Surrey, Iranians on the North Shore.  This is just a broad generalization, but if you feel you will be more comfortable living in an area where you easily recognize people from your birth country, you can choose to live in those areas.  Perhaps people gravitate to some areas because housing costs are more affordable than in others.  I just hope that when all the trials and tribulations of making it through the Visa Process are done, that people will come here and think of themselves as CANADIANS. 
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 11:49:09 am »

Is anyone living in vancouver? What is a rent price for a one bedroom apartment close to the skytrain at least. It does not have to be central. I have seen several sites online but I am not sure how relaible they are. What are good and safe areas around?

Thanks,
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2011, 12:04:49 pm »

Is anyone living in vancouver? What is a rent price for a one bedroom apartment close to the skytrain at leat. It does not have to be central. I have seen several sites online but I am not sure how relaible they are. What are good and safe areas around?

Thanks,
Rod

I would look at www.rentbc.com   And then compare with translink.ca which show the locations of the skytrain station.  One bedroom apartment just above the skytrain station in downtown Van, was asking $1400 with no parking.  It's really good and safe living in downtown.  Everything is so convenient.
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« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2011, 12:15:33 pm »

steaky,

If you work around downtown vancouver how likely are you to need a car?

Thanks,
Rod

I would look at www.rentbc.com   And then compare with translink.ca which show the locations of the skytrain station.  One bedroom apartment just above the skytrain station in downtown Van, was asking $1400 with no parking.  It's really good and safe living in downtown.  Everything is so convenient.
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