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Author Topic: Latest CAIPS / GCMS notes forms and how to order?  (Read 79677 times)
qasim786
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« Reply #285 on: July 27, 2012, 06:16:01 am »

Salam to all,
    Today I received CAIPS notes which states like this
IMM 1017 REQUESTED :15/11/2011
PS DECISION :09/03/2012 RJT
SELECTIOB DECISION :09/05/2012 DRS.
VIEW MEDICAL ASSESMENT FOR ENTIRE FAMILY(Y/N):Y
Any body pls commenst positive or negative?
Regards
 
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« Reply #286 on: July 27, 2012, 06:17:28 am »

i am june 2004 applicant and updated documnets in jan 2011 from pakistan.
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alexchristi
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Posts: 524
Ratings: +24
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Bucharest
NOC Code......: 1122
App. Filed.......: 5th july 2011
AOR Received.: PER  8th sept.2011
IELTS Request: on file
File Transfer...: 29.09.2011
Med's Request: 27.06.2012
Med's Done....: 09.07.2012
Passport Req..: 05. Oct. 2012
VISA ISSUED...: 24. 10. 2012
LANDED..........: 08.dec.2012

« Reply #287 on: July 27, 2012, 10:20:31 am »

I got my GCMS yesterday.
Its a 27 page doc and I couldn't understand the code language.
No seldec/med req/or anything familiar.
What can I do?  Cry  Cry

Hello,

Try reading the GCMS as a regular information letter.

The CAIPS codes do not apply to GCMS notes.
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alexchristi
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Posts: 524
Ratings: +24
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Bucharest
NOC Code......: 1122
App. Filed.......: 5th july 2011
AOR Received.: PER  8th sept.2011
IELTS Request: on file
File Transfer...: 29.09.2011
Med's Request: 27.06.2012
Med's Done....: 09.07.2012
Passport Req..: 05. Oct. 2012
VISA ISSUED...: 24. 10. 2012
LANDED..........: 08.dec.2012

« Reply #288 on: July 27, 2012, 10:23:00 am »

i am june 2004 applicant and updated documnets in jan 2011 from pakistan.

+ 1 for your patience and courage.
did you receive your medical forms?
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #289 on: July 27, 2012, 10:59:33 am »

I got my GCMS yesterday.
Its a 27 page doc and I couldn't understand the code language.
No seldec/med req/or anything familiar.
What can I do?  Cry  Cry

Hi!

GCMS is different from CAIPS. I tell you what to do. First check on page 2, assessments like eligibility, criminality, medical, security etc if they are blank, passed, not started etc  then under assessments check application assignment due date (this is your BFD). Then in the end check the notes of visa officer from 1 to last at the end of notes. They will give you an idea what has been going on with your application. Thanks

This link is also helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrJmBgFUS4UakcSu8ecSQnZn0z9UGmxc9oJ7WOP4LM/edit?pli=1
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #290 on: July 27, 2012, 11:05:22 am »

Salam to all,
    Today I received CAIPS notes which states like this
IMM 1017 REQUESTED :15/11/2011
PS DECISION :09/03/2012 RJT
SELECTIOB DECISION :09/05/2012 DRS.
VIEW MEDICAL ASSESMENT FOR ENTIRE FAMILY(Y/N):Y
Any body pls commenst positive or negative?
Regards
  

They definitely are positive. Your paper screening was passed on 15/11/2011 and selection was passed on 9/5/12. Please share more details. Don't you have any thing like this PSDEC or SELDEC etc. I think being an old applicant this may be different for you. Can you see any notes / comments of visa officer any where about your file. Thanks
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alexchristi
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Posts: 524
Ratings: +24
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Bucharest
NOC Code......: 1122
App. Filed.......: 5th july 2011
AOR Received.: PER  8th sept.2011
IELTS Request: on file
File Transfer...: 29.09.2011
Med's Request: 27.06.2012
Med's Done....: 09.07.2012
Passport Req..: 05. Oct. 2012
VISA ISSUED...: 24. 10. 2012
LANDED..........: 08.dec.2012

« Reply #291 on: July 27, 2012, 04:51:57 pm »

Hi!

GCMS is different from CAIPS. I tell you what to do. First check on page 2, assessments like eligibility, criminality, medical, security etc if they are blank, passed, not started etc  then under assessments check application assignment due date (this is your BFD). Then in the end check the notes of visa officer from 1 to last at the end of notes. They will give you an idea what has been going on with your application. Thanks

This link is also helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrJmBgFUS4UakcSu8ecSQnZn0z9UGmxc9oJ7WOP4LM/edit?pli=1

Very good link.
 Cool Cool Cool
+1 for you

 Cool Cool Cool

Just one observation: on criminality and security they also use "passed"   Wink Wink Wink

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cocknbull
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #292 on: July 27, 2012, 11:16:10 pm »

Very good link.
 Cool Cool Cool
+1 for you

 Cool Cool Cool

Just one observation: on criminality and security they also use "passed"   Wink Wink Wink



Thanks +1 requited back  Smiley. Oh yeah they use pass if you have cleared security / criminality.
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Sister Navneet Kaur
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Posts: 583
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 0111 and 1111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25th march-2010
Doc's Request.: 27th may-2010
AOR Received.: 1st AOR in may-2010 and 2 nd AOR on 30th Sept-2010
IELTS Request: sent when all docs were forwarded 7 overall bands
File Transfer...: 1st june 2010 IN PROCESS FROM 23RD FEB-2012
Med's Request: received on 8.11.2012
Med's Done....: 30.11.2012 medicals done
Interview........: will be waived by Almighty's grace
Passport Req..: Satguru de daya naal jaldi

« Reply #293 on: July 27, 2012, 11:28:18 pm »

Hi cooknbull please explain bishta's gcms notes as she is totally confused

Hi Dear frens,
I got my GCMS/SMGC information today. But, I am confused what exactly it does mean.
I had got the 31-page long mail in a PDF file. It has included so many things. I'm confused to figure out the meaning wat it said. However, some points go like this:
SELECTION:
Total Assessment Points: 70, HIRV:0, CRIMINALITY: 1, CREATED Date: 2010-09-28, CREATED BY: CBO1126, UPDATED DATE: 2012/06/05 01:12:38, DUE DATE: 2011-09-28, MEDICAL:1, CREATED DATE: 2010-09-28,  DUE DATE: 2011-09-28,
UMI:
Assessed for:
IME Status:
Reason for closure:
RMO:
M Profile:
Description:
S Profile:
Description:
MOF Rationale Exists: No
MOF Review:
Valid for:
(What does this MOF mean?)
Misrepresentation: 0
Ministerial Relief: 0
OTHER REQ
H&C:0
A39-A41:0
verification:1
Verification Status: Completed
Activity # 1-THFXQZ (what does this mean?)
RESTRICTED: NO
IELTS CONTACT RESPONSE: CONFIRMED VALID
VERIFICATION RESULT: NO ADVERSE
MATCHING CENTER: 0
EVENTS:0
FEES 2 TRANSACTION: Payment
Fee:RPRF
Amount RQD: 490 (CAD)
AMOUNT PAID: 0
APPLICATIONS & CASES: 0
ORGANIZATIONS & ENTITIES:0
GROUPS:0
Application STATUS: 1
App Status: Open
App status Reason: In progress
Application STATUS: 2
App status: Prospective
Application:1, criminality: updated, Old Value: Not passed, New Value: Passed
Application:2, Security: ........
Application: 3, Eligibility: Updated, Old value: Not started, New Value: Passed,
Application: 4, Secondary Office: Removed
Application:5, Primary Office: Updated, OLD VALUE: CIO, NEW VALUE: New Delhi
Application:6, Eligibility Updated, New Value: Not started, Old Value:....
Application:7, Medical: Updated, New Value: Not started, Old Value:..
Application:8, Security: Updated, New Value: Not started, Old value:...
Application:9, Crimiality: Updated, New Value: Not started, old value:...
Application: 10, Secondary Office: Added (New Delhi)
Activity: 1, Criminality: Passed
Activity:2, Security
 Status:.......Updated date:,..............
Activity 3, Selection: Passed
Activity4, Verification: Completed.
Activity 5, Medical: Not started
Activity 6: Security: Not started
Activity 7: Criminality: Not started
Activity 8: Ministerial Instruction: Met
Activity 9: Ministerial Instruction: Not started (Why 'Met' in Act. 8 and Not Started in 9?, Im confused)
Paper File 1:
Location: RET
App Status: Open
FOSS: Yes (What is FOSS?)
Paper File 2
Location: Registry
App Status: Open
FOSS: NO
Office: New Delhi
Location of Paper File History 2: MPR (What is this 'MPR')
CSI:Forwarded to ECU (What does this ECU mean?)
Preparation Review: Completed: Processing fee paid in Canada for PA, Foss check done, IELTS TRF verified online, PCC*1details entered
pending: Medical*1, Crime RPRF*1 PPT*1 (after completion of all pending requirements)

Plz, go through it and kindly explain me about the acronyms i am confused. My NOC:4131, Applied in April, 2010, In Process since May 07, 2012 and I had requested for CAIPS through my relative in Canada on 27 June, 2012.

thanks in advance
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Posts: 2429
Ratings: +260
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #294 on: July 28, 2012, 12:03:09 am »

Hi cooknbull please explain bishta's gcms notes as she is totally confused

Hi Dear frens,
I got my GCMS/SMGC information today. But, I am confused what exactly it does mean.
I had got the 31-page long mail in a PDF file. It has included so many things. I'm confused to figure out the meaning wat it said. However, some points go like this:
SELECTION:
Total Assessment Points: 70, HIRV:0, CRIMINALITY: 1, CREATED Date: 2010-09-28, CREATED BY: CBO1126, UPDATED DATE: 2012/06/05 01:12:38, DUE DATE: 2011-09-28, MEDICAL:1, CREATED DATE: 2010-09-28,  DUE DATE: 2011-09-28,
UMI:
Assessed for:
IME Status:
Reason for closure:
RMO:
M Profile:
Description:
S Profile:
Description:
MOF Rationale Exists: No
MOF Review:
Valid for:
(What does this MOF mean?)
Misrepresentation: 0
Ministerial Relief: 0
OTHER REQ
H&C:0
A39-A41:0
verification:1
Verification Status: Completed
Activity # 1-THFXQZ (what does this mean?)
RESTRICTED: NO
IELTS CONTACT RESPONSE: CONFIRMED VALID
VERIFICATION RESULT: NO ADVERSE
MATCHING CENTER: 0
EVENTS:0
FEES 2 TRANSACTION: Payment
Fee:RPRF
Amount RQD: 490 (CAD)
AMOUNT PAID: 0
APPLICATIONS & CASES: 0
ORGANIZATIONS & ENTITIES:0
GROUPS:0
Application STATUS: 1
App Status: Open
App status Reason: In progress
Application STATUS: 2
App status: Prospective
Application:1, criminality: updated, Old Value: Not passed, New Value: Passed
Application:2, Security: ........
Application: 3, Eligibility: Updated, Old value: Not started, New Value: Passed,
Application: 4, Secondary Office: Removed
Application:5, Primary Office: Updated, OLD VALUE: CIO, NEW VALUE: New Delhi
Application:6, Eligibility Updated, New Value: Not started, Old Value:....
Application:7, Medical: Updated, New Value: Not started, Old Value:..
Application:8, Security: Updated, New Value: Not started, Old value:...
Application:9, Crimiality: Updated, New Value: Not started, old value:...
Application: 10, Secondary Office: Added (New Delhi)
Activity: 1, Criminality: Passed
Activity:2, Security
 Status:.......Updated date:,..............
Activity 3, Selection: Passed
Activity4, Verification: Completed.
Activity 5, Medical: Not started
Activity 6: Security: Not started
Activity 7: Criminality: Not started
Activity 8: Ministerial Instruction: Met
Activity 9: Ministerial Instruction: Not started (Why 'Met' in Act. 8 and Not Started in 9?, Im confused)
Paper File 1:
Location: RET
App Status: Open
FOSS: Yes (What is FOSS?)
Paper File 2
Location: Registry
App Status: Open
FOSS: NO
Office: New Delhi
Location of Paper File History 2: MPR (What is this 'MPR')
CSI:Forwarded to ECU (What does this ECU mean?)
Preparation Review: Completed: Processing fee paid in Canada for PA, Foss check done, IELTS TRF verified online, PCC*1details entered
pending: Medical*1, Crime RPRF*1 PPT*1 (after completion of all pending requirements)

Plz, go through it and kindly explain me about the acronyms i am confused. My NOC:4131, Applied in April, 2010, In Process since May 07, 2012 and I had requested for CAIPS through my relative in Canada on 27 June, 2012.

thanks in advance


Hi!

The information given is not correct. Please ask her to provide this.

First check on page 2, assessments like eligibility, criminality, medical, security etc if they are blank, passed, not started etc  then under assessments check application assignment due date (this is your BFD). Then in the end check the notes of visa officer from 1 to last at the end of notes. They will give you an idea what has been going on with your application. Thanks

This link is also helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrJmBgFUS4UakcSu8ecSQnZn0z9UGmxc9oJ7WOP4LM/edit?pli=1
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bishista1
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Posts: 222
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: 24-04-2010 (sent), received on 04-05-2010
Doc's Request.: 28-09-2010 (first AoR)
Nomination.....: 01-10-2010
AOR Received.: 25-10-2010 (2nd AoR) /IP since May 07
IELTS Request: submitted on 24-04-2010/7 in each band
File Transfer...: N/A
Med's Request: Waiting

« Reply #295 on: July 28, 2012, 01:42:49 am »

Hi!

The information given is not correct. Please ask her to provide this.

First check on page 2, assessments like eligibility, criminality, medical, security etc if they are blank, passed, not started etc  then under assessments check application assignment due date (this is your BFD). Then in the end check the notes of visa officer from 1 to last at the end of notes. They will give you an idea what has been going on with your application. Thanks

This link is also helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrJmBgFUS4UakcSu8ecSQnZn0z9UGmxc9oJ7WOP4LM/edit?pli=1

In page 3, there is Client Details under which, all i can find is my personal details but one thing which is confusing is, 'Counterfoil Reqd: Yes'. What does this mean? Similarly, in pg. 4, there is HIRV (What does it mean?). Under it, CRIMINALITY: PASSED, MEDICAL:NOT STARTED, MISREPRESENTATION: (blank), Min Relief: Security, Min Relief: HIRV, Min Relief: Org Crime, Marital Status: Married etc. included (what do they signify?), NOTES1 Created: 2012-06-06 TEXT: FOLLOWING EMAIL RECD. FM APP FWDD TO EN/ZB IN MPR (Plz, kindly explain these acronyms) ====The email i had sent in the past written in response to the demand of the documents (my family status configuration)  which i had already submitted at the VO  once earlier has been included as it is). NOTES2 Created: 2012-05-25 Text:*****Fax received from PA in response to the request letter we sent on 9th March for her spouse's docs.Since the spouse is already a PR of Canada, she wants to know if these documents are really required.***** Letter sent to MPR for Officer's review. (Plz let me know What is this MPR?), NOTES 3:On 2012-05-09: Text: RCVD letter on 26 April 2012 from PA along with updated IMM8, PCC1, Copy of marriage certificate, Copy of PR card and other supporting documents. Same PA'ED IN MPR SLOT FOR FORWARDING IT TO MPR. NOTES 4 on 2012-05-09, Text: REQUEST SENT ON How TO ADD A SPOUSE, NOTES 5 on 2012-05-07 Text: Eligibility passed, funds met, crim pending. Note that spouse is to be added. ECD: PLZ Contact PA to follow up on info/fees for spouse prior to being able to issue medical.  There are such 14 NOTES which contain my CSI and other updates in the descending order of the dates down to the date when application was filed. Now, plz tell me has my spouse been added there? Otherwise, why the Marital status became Married in my personal details in pg 4? Plz going through above informations, inform me the possible status of my case.
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Singapore
App. Filed.......: May 2010
Doc's Request.: Oct 2010
File Transfer...: In process - 08 March 2012
Med's Request: 15 Nov 2012 (issued), 29 Nov 2012 (received)
Med's Done....: Med 04 Dec 2012, Other Doc 10 Dec 2012
Passport Req..: 25 Feb 2013, Submitted 26 Feb 2013, Recieved by Visa office 1 March 2013
VISA ISSUED...: 9 April 2013

« Reply #296 on: July 28, 2012, 03:01:56 am »

Hi!

GCMS is different from CAIPS. I tell you what to do. First check on page 2, assessments like eligibility, criminality, medical, security etc if they are blank, passed, not started etc  then under assessments check application assignment due date (this is your BFD). Then in the end check the notes of visa officer from 1 to last at the end of notes. They will give you an idea what has been going on with your application. Thanks

This link is also helpful

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17KrJmBgFUS4UakcSu8ecSQnZn0z9UGmxc9oJ7WOP4LM/edit?pli=1

Thank you very much, sir.
I ll try as per your guidance.
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Posts: 256
Ratings: +2
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Singapore
App. Filed.......: May 2010
Doc's Request.: Oct 2010
File Transfer...: In process - 08 March 2012
Med's Request: 15 Nov 2012 (issued), 29 Nov 2012 (received)
Med's Done....: Med 04 Dec 2012, Other Doc 10 Dec 2012
Passport Req..: 25 Feb 2013, Submitted 26 Feb 2013, Recieved by Visa office 1 March 2013
VISA ISSUED...: 9 April 2013

« Reply #297 on: July 28, 2012, 04:44:08 am »

Eligibility: Passed
Security: Not started
Medical: Not started
Criminality: Not started

They gave me 71 points but no points for relatives!!!!!!!

Can anybody help me to understand the information in color RED?

Medical:
MOF Rationale Exists: NO

Application Status:1
App Status: Open

Application Status:2
App Status: Prospective

Client Details:1 & 2
Counterfoil Required: YES

Correspondence:
Outgoing:1
All Rec'd: NO

Application:2
Field name: Secondary Office
Action: Removed
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kcrajan23
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Posts: 108
Ratings: +3
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: NDVO
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: March 2010
AOR Received.: May 2010
File Transfer...: July 2010
Med's Request: 08-11-2012
Med's Done....: 27-11-2012
Passport Req..: 30-11-2012

« Reply #298 on: July 28, 2012, 05:18:28 am »

Hi dear friends,

 received my CAIPS notes today.on head of first page it is written as
CASE STATUS SELECTION
PSDEC  1(23.02.12) the date my case went in process
 SELDEC 1(23.02.12)
 BDEC (nothing before this field it is blank)
 MEDDEC 0
 OREQ     0
 FINDEC   0

ECD Please issue meds*1 and request:
Indian PCC
RPRF's
ppt's

there is written like this-
FAMILY MEMBERS      CLIENT ID     DATE OF BIRTH                      STATUS          MEDICAL
Navneet Kaur            63242152     (HERE MY DOB IS WRITTEN)     SEC CRIM 3       STAGE VALIDITY
                                                                                                    

Friends my question is this why my name is written in family member's list name.
and does this means that still my criminality checks are pending? yaar 5 months gone still not done...quite confused, as till date i have not crossed the boarders of my motherland and i am really all very much clear with my criminal records(yaar aaj tak ek makhi tak te mari nahi, banda ke marna.... }
under criminality check how long they can take for a person like me.

So please clear my this confusion.
thanks.
Navneeta Sis
Ur CAIPS and mine is exactly the same. BDEC which is blank means Background Decision is more related to security decision is not done yet. But i m confused my STATUS SEC CRIM is 1 but U write 3. My name is also written in the family information eventhough i am Principal Applicant.
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Posts: 583
Ratings: +15
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 0111 and 1111
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 25th march-2010
Doc's Request.: 27th may-2010
AOR Received.: 1st AOR in may-2010 and 2 nd AOR on 30th Sept-2010
IELTS Request: sent when all docs were forwarded 7 overall bands
File Transfer...: 1st june 2010 IN PROCESS FROM 23RD FEB-2012
Med's Request: received on 8.11.2012
Med's Done....: 30.11.2012 medicals done
Interview........: will be waived by Almighty's grace
Passport Req..: Satguru de daya naal jaldi

« Reply #299 on: July 28, 2012, 06:06:44 am »

hi there can you answer my few question so that i can conclude something,
1. have they written somewhere that they will request updated PCC when medicals will be asked for?as in my caips it is clearly mentioned that CRIM PENDING UPDATED PCCs so it means that when i will hand over undated pcc to them then my crim will posses 1 before it
2. You have any travel history or not?


Navneeta Sis
Ur CAIPS and mine is exactly the same. BDEC which is blank means Background Decision is more related to security decision is not done yet. But i m confused my STATUS SEC CRIM is 1 but U write 3. My name is also written in the family information eventhough i am Principal Applicant.
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