Kingston,Jamaica

[Godblesswife]

Confused you are in a tight Corner, any chance you could try and switch it around and tell them you meant to sya you are in the process of Completing it?
otherwise no Ideas Babe. Sorry Hun.
but I would'nt try anything funny at this stage. another Job will come if its not to be.
till then God will continue to Provide, dont push it and get into any trouble you dont need that now.

[canuck0469]

Hi gang, LCW I will plug into something and hang on real tight if the wind and rain get too bad to avoid any back injury. Don't want to get too stiff and sore.

[nae-nae]

good morning forum!!  it's Saturday morning and I should be sleeping in but NOOOO  my eyes popped open at 6:30 am     I tried and tried to go back to sleep but no luck       So here I am on the internet lol  it's too early to go anywhere or do anything so the internet will have to keep me occupied for awhile.

hubby was out late last night .... called me and woke me up at 1 am so maybe I should do him the same favour...wake him up at 7 am.. he he he he he   I'm so evil lol  

kenswife - glad you're keeping busy!  it's so tough and I can't imagine what it's like for you and your husband....being sooo close with no info or response as to what is going on.  I commend you for keeping your cool, I don't know that I would. We are moving into the 2nd week of September next week so hopefully they are back to work and your husband hears from them before the end of the week!  

confused - make something up on the internet lol  aren't I terrible?  I shouldn't be encouraging you but hey, if you need the job, what the hell?  you could come up with some kind of lie that it seems you have lost your info so you called the school who require a written request for transcripts and being where you live will take at least a month to get there and a month or 2 to get back to you.  I don't know....or you just tell them the truth...tell them you desperately need a job and admit it was wrong to lie but you are so close to finishing you thought it wouldn't matter?  Do you think they'll still hire you if you don't have your degree?  Anyway, whatever you decide, I hope it all works out for you!  At least you've now had some practice interviewing lol  

yep confused, it's a long weekend and I'm going to enjoy the extra day off.  No real big plans, having family for a bbq on Sunday, that's about it.  Other than that, relaxing, gardening, enjoying time away from work!!!  

anyone else have any big plans?

[brownsuga]

Good morning everyone,

Yep,  another long weekend!  No big plans - yardwork and prepare for back to school. 

[iambless]

Hi everyone, hope everyone is in the best of help. Question. I am about to mail my daughter's police record to Kingston. Should I write the Client ID # and Kit # on the envelope or should i write it inside as a note.

Also the police record that she got don't have her photo on it, it just said that there is no record on file for her. Also when I email Kingston regarding my AOR can I attach a copy of her police record also even though i am mailing it already.

Should I send a copy or the original.

Thanks. Reply urgently needed. I am going to Fedex the letter.

[Glogirl68]

Make sure the B# is on there so it goes with the right file. I myself am not sure I would put the file # on the outside. Hopefully one of the wiser ones can answer that.
A new week is starting so hopefully there will be updates for somene.

[CharlieD10]

Hello, new to this forum and thread. 

My husband and I have just started to get a handle on this process, and how long it is going to take and how much it is going to cost. 

Already we have established that part of our costs will include a US police record, because I lived there for 18 months when I was 18.  Marvelous.  This adds an additional 3 months to the entire process for us, and I am already reeling from the shock that this whole process is going to take a year once my application gets to Kingston!

He is here in Jamaica for the time being, but it is becoming clearer that he is going to have to return to Canada, and leave me alone here, as his current income will not cover all our living costs plus the costs of the application process.  Further, my husband has a medical condition that requires treatment every 3 months, and no way can we either pay for it privately, or trust that the Jamaican public health care system will care for him properly.

We are likely going to be using an immigration lawyer, but I am hoping that I will find some experience, comments, suggestions and just encouragement here, as I have never been through anything like this.  I have never been refused a visa before, and I was devastated when my request for a TRV was denied, on the grounds that I might not return etc etc.  I am not even sure how I am going to handle being away from my husband now that I have gotten used to him being with me (we met online), LOL.

Anyways, thanks for reading.

[nae-nae]

glo - like many of us, iambless did not get an AOR and does not have a B#  ... how does one get that if they have not received an AOR letter?

iambless - I'm not sure what to do, perhaps put a note in it stating an AOR letter was not received and therefore you do not have a B#.  As for the police record, the guide says to bring your photos to get your police check done.  I think you said she lives in the UK???  perhaps their police record is different and KG will accept what you have.  If not, I'm sure they'll let you know.

Welcome CharlieD!      some applications take 4 months and some take over 15 months....no idea why or who will be in the lower end of the scale or longer end of the scale.  I suppose it depends on the officer that is looking at your file and how complex your file is.  I did not use an immigration lawyer...just followed the advice of the members of this forum and saved myself a few thousand dollars....mind you my husband's file is not complex...no children and no criminal record.  I'm not saying you shouldn't use one, do whatever you think is best.  You will find lots of advice, support and encouragement here!!!  You've definitely come to the right place! 

[kmc]

just dropping by to say hello

[Godblesswife]

Hi CharlieD, Welcome to the Forum,

I understand exactly how you feel, it can be quiet daunting just getting the evidence together to submit your application, I know this cos I'm not easily overwhelmed but felt quiet overwhelmed when I was filling the forms.


I like you also applied for a TRV and was also turned down. so do not be alarmed.

You would like to think that since immigration knows that sooner or later they will eventually give you the permission to live in Canada Permanently, that a TRV should be 123 . oh well not so at all.
you'd have to be pregnant or about to be there for the birth of your Child,

Even so, some of these applicants also got refused. so do not be dismayed. or by no means feel you are isolated in this TRV Issue.
Here's what I did when we decided to work on the application to submit for Permanent Residency.


Research Research Research
After doing extensive research on the process.  we decided to save the money on the legal expenses, the fees are expensive enough as they are.

You are on this Forum so clearly you too have been researching.

Download the forms and go through them , familiarise
yourself with the content of the forms, and find out what you will need when you are ready to submit the Application.

Think of what your answers will be to the questions on the forms.


This should be easy,
You are after all answering questions about your Relationship how you met Etc. and how your relationship evolved.

Although this should be straightforward,

Please take your time to answer the questions well , as you are making an application that will determine the way you will spend the rest of your life with Hubby.
So its Important you take your time and while being Honest about your answers, take care to present your facts  well.


Gather Photos, letters, emails , photocopy your Spouses passport pages that shows when he visited you during the course of your relationship.

get anything you can lay your hands on that will proof how Genuine your love is for each other. Phone records...... for example
I personally, photocopied our Wedding pics and other photos as I did not want to lose originals , and wrote at the top what the setting was and dated the ones I could remember the dates for etc.

send photocopies of Birthday cards etc, from you and Hubby to each other, we even sent copies of our wedding cards given to us by family and friends.

We also included the Police checks and medicals, and both parts of the application and fees at the same time. wether you choose to do this is optional.
However they will still be required of you and it saves alot of time, and may even shorten the time your application takes to be processed, if you reduce the documents they have to ask you for.

all in all, be as thorough as you can be, make sure you go over the application a few times before finally submitting it.

Wether or not you choose to use a lawyer, its best to go through the forms first, see if you feel less Confident about doing it yourself. this is something only you can decide.

What I can tell you though is, if you dont decide to do the application on your own. it will be well worth it  to still read up all you can, and you will find, Lawyer or no Lawyer you will need to submit the same volume of Evidence. but do go with your gut instinct on this. after all we can only share our xperiences on here, but ultimately you are making a decision that will impact the rest of your life.

All the best with sending off the forms.

P.S There are alot more seasoned members on here who will be more than happy to add their experiences thus far , and help along the process by answering questions as they come up.

Try adding your case to trackitt.com and compare timelines with others, this helps you to stay up to date on how far you are in the process

Hope this Helps
Godbless

[Godblesswife]

Its Monday Everyone, have we got any updates yet?

[Godblesswife]

Cant sleep guys, and all I can think of are all things Immigration.

oh boy!

Lets hope Kgn dont keep me in this state for too long.  ha ha wish me luck.

[Godblesswife]

Happy Labour Day to Canadians and Prospective Canadians alike. He he he.
hope you guys get to kick back and relax its the last long weekend for the summer.

Here's to spending the next one together as a Family if you are not already reunited in Canada.

To those who have already reunited, dont take for granted the time that you have together. get away while you can, if you need to, but keep the fire burning, keep your love alive . no matter the things that Life throws at you.
Now that you are together, Make it work, stay together, stay Blessed

Godbless

[nae-nae]

Happy Labour Day to my fellow Canadians!!!  and Happy Monday to my Jamaican friends  

CharlieD - I agree with Godblesswife, I went through the applications and filled them out in rough, some parts twice, before I did my final draft.... you may already know this but in case you don't.....

you should have police check and medical done BEFORE you submit your app....have them done as close to the time you submit the applications as you can.  The instructions do ask you to submit these with your application.  You have to have your medical done by a DMP (designated medical practitioner) which can be found here

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medicalinfo.aspx?CountryID=2056&CountryName=Jamaica

I copied this out of the guide

If you are required to undergo a medical examination you must follow these steps
Step
Action
1
Make an appointment with a Designated Medical Practitioner (DMP) for you and each required family member. DMP in your region: http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx
2
Fill out the Medical Report: Section A – EDE form (IMM 1017 SCL) and bring it and the following items if applicable for you and each of your family members to your medical appointment:
•Medical Report: Section A – EDE form (IMM 1017 SCL)
•Passport and photocopies of the biographical data pages (this is the page that shows the date of birth, the country of origin, etc.)
•If no passport is available, provide an official identity document bearing a photo and the date of birth of the family member
•Eye glasses or contact lenses
•Previous medical reports, prescriptions or treatments
•5 recent photos, taken within six months preceding the date of your examination
•Immigration client identification number (ID #), if known
3
The DMP will send your results to the appropriate medical office for processing.

Only examinations performed by a physician on Canada's list of Designated Medical Practitioners (DMPs) will be recognized for immigration purposes.
The doctor cannot provide you with the results of the medical examination however he or she will tell you if you have a health-related problem. The doctor cannot provide any advice on the immigration process.

Police Certificates
SUBMIT THE CERTIFICATES
Include the police certificates and any supplementary forms with your application.·If the police authorities notify you that they will submit the certificates directly to us, include this notice with your application.
·All police certificates must be originals; photocopies are not acceptable.
·If your certificates are in a language other than English or French, attach an original translation prepared by an accredited translator.



Instructions for obtaining a police certificate in JA can be found here  http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/security/police-cert/central-south-amer/jamaica.asp

Something important you should know is to follow the photo specifications in the guide.  Take the page with you when obtaining a photo because the size is different than the passport photo and Canada is very very anal about the photos - they have to be exactly right!  My husband obtained regular passport photos and I had to send him back for new ones using the guide instructions.

There is a Country Specific guide for Jamaica that you can find here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/3909e.pdf

Read the guides front to back!!  Read the document checklists from both guides as they are slightly different and require slightly different things.  For example: the sponsorship application requires a photocopy of your marriage certificate but the application for permanent residence requires the original marriage certificate

Here is another copied exerpt from that guide


PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP TO SPONSOR
If you are being sponsored by your spouse, common-law partner or conjugal partner, you must send evidence of the relationship between you and your sponsor such as wedding photos or proof that you are partners, letters between you and your sponsor, and telephone bills showing contact between you and your sponsor. Note: Photos must be loose. Do not send them in binders, albums, frames or other such containers. Do not send video discs or video cassettes. Do not send musical greeting cards or other similar documents containing electronic or mechanical devices.
Proof of your sponsor's visits such as airline ticket coupons, boarding passes, copies of pages of your sponsor's passport showing entry/exit stamps.
If you are a common-law or conjugal partner, provide evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing and has existed for at least 12 months prior to your application. Also provide details of the history of your relationship and at least two statutory declarations from individuals with personal knowledge of your relationship supporting your claim that the relationship is genuine and continuing.


I had photos that we already had and copies of our wedding photos printed and sent the original photos.  I sent everything and anything I had to show the relationship is genuine and went a step further and sent in letters from both of our family and friends giving their own account of our relationship.  

One more thing, get your husband to order an Option C printout from Revenue Canada at 1-800-959-8281 - have him call now so he will have it when you are ready to submit your application.  He also needs a letter from his employer and the instructions for that can be found on the documents checklist.

Try to follow the instructions in the guide to a T !!  if you are able to, pay for the sponsorship and RPRF (right of permanent residence fee) up front.  I paid the sponsorship fee and the RPRF fee a few weeks later right before the file went to KG.

The less KG has to ask you for, the faster the processing time!!!  Every time they have to ask you for something, it could delay your processing time by 30 to 90 days.  Which is why it is important to have everything they ask for in the application when you send it rather than waiting until later when they ask you for it.  

I know that's a lot of info but I really hope it helps!!!  and I apologize if you already know this stuff - consider it a duplicate lol

[CharlieD10]

Thanks so much everyone who has taken the time to offer information and advice!  I really appreciate this and am glad to know that I am not alone and that the others who have taken the steps before me have been kind enough to offer their experiences to help me

I had already decided that we should make 2 sets of the documents, so we have one draft set, and a final set is submitted for application.  I am already working on my FBI clearance, and I am reading reading reading all the forms and guides.

Thanks again!