Just want to know

[Yaya Marei]

Just want to know why it takes lots of time all the process, is it hard to process in few months, yes I understand they have to work lots , but it is our lives here,


  We are human too, are we ??

[tink23]

Well,

Depending on the visa office, they probably have hundreds, if not thouhsands of applicants to get through...

and on top of that, I think the wait is partially to weed out those couples who aren't actually serious. If a couple is in a marriage of convenience and made the PR papers on a whim to see if it worked, they might lose hope after a few months and stop their communication, etc... but those who are in love and dedicated to a life together will wait through however many months it takes to live where they want to together.

But mainly, they have a lot of documents to verify, and have to judge if a relationship is genuine based on a few questions and a few pictures... Even with all of this verification there are still many people who get through the immigration process using fraud, which in turn makes it a more trying and grueling process for the real couples who just want to make a life with each other.

Some VO wait times seem like a walk in the park with their 3-6 month timelines compared to others which are 12-18  months. It all depends which country is seen as more desirable and generally has more to offer (more highly educated citizens, etc...)  Doesn't always seem fair, but that's the way it is. Some countries are more desirable than others.... Some countries have more of a history of fraudulent applicants (marriage of convenience, fraudulent identities, etc) and so, like I said before, applicants after that are made to pay for other peoples' transgresions.

[scylla]

I blame everyone who has committed marriage fraud in the past (also those who continue to commit marriage fraud now). They've ruined it for the rest of us.

[RobsLuv]

That is a huge part of it.  We have some friends who went through the process only 15 short years ago.  She came to Canada as the dependent of her mother, who was applying in the SW class.  Our friend got a work permit as a result of this SW ap for her mom, and she met her future husband on the job.  After a couple years of dating, her work permit was expiring and Mom's SW ap had not been finalized.  She was going to have to go back to Trinidad - so (as he now tells it) he said, "I guess we're getting married".  After the wedding, he went with her to her exit interview and the CIC officer thought he was her lawyer.  When he revealed that he was actually the husband, the CIC officer fell all over them and couldn't stamp her paperwork for permanent status fast enough.  She walked out of that office with her PR - not even an application to submit.  Shortly thereafter her mother's status was also finalized and the couple went on to have two children and a happy life.  Unfortunately, Mom went back to Trinidad and lost her PR status - and now that she has health issues, she can't be sponsored to come back.  She is almost completely alone in her country as her surviving children all stayed in Canada.

We are also friends with a man who came to Canada almost 40 years ago, from the States, as a Minister.  After a year or so an officer from CIC knocked on his door and asked him whether he intended to stay in Canada.  He said that, yes, he'd like that very much.  So the officer told him just to go get a chest xray done and come down to the border and they'd stamp his papers.  He did as he was told and was given permanent status on the spot - him and his family.  They've been here ever since.

I'm certain we will never see these types of stories again - but it's understandable why it was really difficult for these friends of ours to understand the he)) we were put through trying to get mine and my daughter's status.

[rjessome]

That is a huge part of it.  We have some friends who went through the process only 15 short years ago.  She came to Canada as the dependent of her mother, who was applying in the SW class.  Our friend got a work permit as a result of this SW ap for her mom, and she met her future husband on the job.  After a couple years of dating, her work permit was expiring and Mom's SW ap had not been finalized.  She was going to have to go back to Trinidad - so (as he now tells it) he said, "I guess we're getting married".  After the wedding, he went with her to her exit interview and the CIC officer thought he was her lawyer.  When he revealed that he was actually the husband, the CIC officer fell all over them and couldn't stamp her paperwork for permanent status fast enough.  She walked out of that office with her PR - not even an application to submit.  Shortly thereafter her mother's status was also finalized and the couple went on to have two children and a happy life.  Unfortunately, Mom went back to Trinidad and lost her PR status - and now that she has health issues, she can't be sponsored to come back.  She is almost completely alone in her country as her surviving children all stayed in Canada.

We are also friends with a man who came to Canada almost 40 years ago, from the States, as a Minister.  After a year or so an officer from CIC knocked on his door and asked him whether he intended to stay in Canada.  He said that, yes, he'd like that very much.  So the officer told him just to go get a chest xray done and come down to the border and they'd stamp his papers.  He did as he was told and was given permanent status on the spot - him and his family.  They've been here ever since.

I love these stories.  Those were the good old days.  It's a much different landscape now!

[fprince]

I blame everyone who has committed marriage fraud in the past (also those who continue to commit marriage fraud now). They've ruined it for the rest of us.

Well said and you can read many threads on this forum where ppl are just asking for feedback to fake a family class when they should be taking the origional route for PR like canadian exp class, FSW etc..

[RobsLuv]

Personally, I think the pendulum swung too far in the other direction - which is typical.

It's true, I have personally seen plenty of posts where people are asking about how to "use" the system.  Fortunately, most legitimate applicants and sponsors around here have zero tolerance for that and the "cheaters" don't get much help.