July 01, 2011 FSW Applicants_MI 3

[moyrzg]

Thank you RKC wish all of us GOOD LUCK

[farrukh ahmad]

Applications received toward the overall cap: 2,565 of 10,000 as of October 3, 2011

Applications received per eligible occupation:

Eligible Occupation
(by National Occupational Classification [NOC] code)   Number of Complete Applications Received*
0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers   229
0811 Primary Production Managers (except Agriculture)    23
1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management   (Cap reached)**
1233 Insurance Adjusters and Claims Examiners   36
2121 Biologists and Related Scientists   135
2151 Architects   73
3111 Specialist Physicians   113
3112 General Practitioners and Family Physicians   111
3113 Dentists   146
3131 Pharmacists   260
3142 Physiotherapists   30
3152 Registered Nurses   (Cap reached)**
3215 Medical Radiation Technologists   14
3222 Dental Hygienists and Dental Therapists   10
3233 Licensed Practical Nurses   55
4151 Psychologists   11
4152 Social Workers   84
6241 Chefs   22
6242 Cooks   50
7215 Contractors and Supervisors, Carpentry Trades   25
7216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades   47
7241 Electricians (except Industrial and Power System)   23
7242 Industrial Electricians   20
7251 Plumbers   4
7265 Welders and Related Machine Operators   9
7312 Heavy-Duty Equipment Mechanics   9
7371 Crane Operators   1
7372 Drillers and Blasters – Surface Mining, Quarrying and Construction   2
8222 Supervisors, Oil and Gas Drilling and Service   23

[isis_jd]

It's between 10-20 business days. Did you send them an email that has your name,date of birth and cic number? If you don't have one yet,then you can either send them your passport ID or what not,just to have them verify that you are the applicant, or else they will not reply. Moreover, how many weeks have passed since you submitted your application? They will not reply to you unless it has been 6 weeks already. 

Thank you! They received my application last July 27. I can't even check if my bd has been encashed already coz the bank told me that it isn't possible for them to check. hoping that  i get a reply from cic soon... and i read it here in the forum that maye the cut off date for my noc (3152) is the 20th of july

[Guikegod1]

Thank you! They received my application last July 27. I can't even check if my bd has been encashed already coz the bank told me that it isn't possible for them to check. hoping that  i get a reply from cic soon... and i read it here in the forum that maye the cut off date for my noc (3152) is the 20th of july

Ahh..your time of getting PER is almost around the corner (I think).. if you checked the spreadsheet, most of the BD en-cashed were to those applications that they have received on 27th of July. Don't fret, this month is YOUR month.  My friend is still waiting for her PER,too. Her application was received last 20th of July. So..your wait might be not for long..Goodluck!!

[alaindotcom]

Hello Future Canadians.

Just a worthwhile read ( and a reality check ) while waiting for your PERs, NERs and what not.

AN IMMIGRANT'S STRUGGLES IN CANADA BY K.M. NASIR (May 26, 2011)

Canada is a country with no jobs for new immigrants...

The writer is obviously bitter about his own experience.  Statistics and recognized socio-economic development indices will belie most of the claims made in the piece.  And the comparison to the US is ill-informed.  In reality, the US unemployment and underemployment rates are way higher than Canada's.  Immigrants should not expect Canada to be the panacea to all their problems.  One must have a strategy. Getting into Canada is only the start of the process.  There are more than enough advice from the CIC website and the various provincial settlement organizations about not being able to get the job that you want at first.  You have to work your way back into your desired profession.  And there are ways to do that. If one is busy complaining rather than working out his own strategy, he will surely miss out on what Canada has to offer.

[Guikegod1]

The writer is obviously bitter about his own experience.  Statistics and recognized socio-economic development indices will belie most of the claims made in the piece.  And the comparison to the US is ill-informed.  In reality, the US unemployment and underemployment rates are way higher than Canada's.  Immigrants should not expect Canada to be the panacea to all their problems.  One must have a strategy. Getting into Canada is only the start of the process.  There are more than enough advice from the CIC website and the various provincial settlement organizations about not being able to get the job that you want at first.  You have to work your way back to into your desired profession.  And there are ways to do that. If one is busy complaining rather than working out his own strategy, he will surely miss out on what Canada has to offer.

AMEN to that! 

[janellenurse]

Thank you! They received my application last July 27. I can't even check if my bd has been encashed already coz the bank told me that it isn't possible for them to check. hoping that  i get a reply from cic soon... and i read it here in the forum that maye the cut off date for my noc (3152) is the 20th of july

Are you sure it's July 20? Because according to CIC website the CAP for 3152 has been reached around september 3rd week as far as I can remember..

[Your Highness]

Alain....it was a pleasure reading your piece. Seriously. My thoughts exactly. If one is negative one will attract thus....and vice versa. It takes all kinds to make a world, so does Canada.

Why do we think canada would be all roses and no thorns. Is any part of the world "all roses only"? I dont know of any. We will be immigrants (hopefully ;-)) and must accept the fact that we will face trying circumstances in the beginning.

Another thing we must willing to face is that we might have to land up doing odd jobs here and there and grab whatever comes our way, till we get a foothold there. If we have this one thing sorted in our minds, there will be no dissapoinment.

By the way Alain, you have a very good command over english. You write very well :-)

[AVSNEH]

Very True Alain....

I am completely agree to you.... Everyone should be aware of what he is going to do in CANADA pripor to land in CANADA.... Economy doesnt support ppl... Ppl who actually develop the economy of any country.....
If you are a hard worker and wanna achieve something in life you have to put some goals in life..... I think Landing in CANADA will be the first step (for which we struggle almost a year) and there is long way ahead... So, ppl dont think that CANADA will put RED carpet for us... We have to struggle dir as well.......

The writer is obviously bitter about his own experience.  Statistics and recognized socio-economic development indices will belie most of the claims made in the piece.  And the comparison to the US is ill-informed.  In reality, the US unemployment and underemployment rates are way higher than Canada's.  Immigrants should not expect Canada to be the panacea to all their problems.  One must have a strategy. Getting into Canada is only the start of the process.  There are more than enough advice from the CIC website and the various provincial settlement organizations about not being able to get the job that you want at first.  You have to work your way back into your desired profession.  And there are ways to do that. If one is busy complaining rather than working out his own strategy, he will surely miss out on what Canada has to offer.

[alaindotcom]

Alain....it was a pleasure reading your piece. Seriously. My thoughts exactly. If one is negative one will attract thus....and vice versa. It takes all kinds to make a world, so does Canada.

Why do we think canada would be all roses and no thorns. Is any part of the world "all roses only"? I dont know of any. We will be immigrants (hopefully ;-)) and must accept the fact that we will face trying circumstances in the beginning.

Another thing we must willing to face is that we might have to land up doing odd jobs here and there and grab whatever comes our way, till we get a foothold there. If we have this one thing sorted in our minds, there will be no dissapoinment.

By the way Alain, you have a very good command over english. You write very well :-)

Thank you Your Royal Highness.  I couldn't stand to see your Queendom being attacked.  hahaha. Kidding aside, I want to help people set realistic expectations on this whole idea of moving to Canada.  Not everything will be served on a silver platter.

Thank you for appreciating my writing.  I never knew I could write.  So I am glad you seem to think I can. 

[alaindotcom]

Very True Alain....

I am completely agree to you.... Everyone should be aware of what he is going to do in CANADA pripor to land in CANADA.... Economy doesnt support ppl... Ppl who actually develop the economy of any country.....
If you are a hard worker and wanna achieve something in life you have to put some goals in life..... I think Landing in CANADA will be the first step (for which we struggle almost a year) and there is long way ahead... So, ppl dont think that CANADA will put RED carpet for us... We have to struggle dir as well.......

Agree.  Such was the experience of my brother.  He had to go by a year cleaning windows while he was doing the bridging program for nurses.  He had been a nurse for 19 years prior to immigrating.  But he wasn't complaining.  He just passed the local boards in BC and is now ready to be a nurse again.

I have 6 cousins and 7 other relatives who have the same stories.  Nobody complained.  Every hardship fell within the range of early expectations, and was well worth the prize in the end.

Good luck to all of us.

[Ahora]

I agree.  I think the outcome of your application will depend on how your officer will look at it. Some may be less strict than others. 

Thanks for your comment and I really afraid about it .

[alaindotcom]

postscript

All applicants for immigration to Canada should know the challenges even before they pick up their FSW application form.  I am well aware of the fact that I will not be a white collar worker if and when I land in Canada.  That is why I already made a plan to bridge my skills and experience with those that Canadian employers are looking for.  For me, it means going back to school to take up bridge programs.  For the meantime, I am ready to be a dishwasher if I have to.  I know I will work my way back to the profession that I want in due time. Canada has different standards for my profession. They are not necessarily better than those of the country I come from.  But it's their country to run.  By all means, as an immigrant, I need to rise up to the challenge and do whatever it takes to meet those standards.  I leave the work up to me, not to the CIC and not to the Canadian government. 

I am not disputing the fact that disillusionment seems to be the reality for some.  But Canada made no promises that things are going to be easy.  Unlike what was claimed in the piece, Canada's settlement websites already warn us that we may have to take survival jobs at first.  So why complain about something that we were already told to expect?

There are also a lot of literature about the Canadian healthcare system.  Informative videos are available on the settlement websites.  They tell the story of a first rate healthcare system, and for the most part they are right about it, especially when compared to the healthcare systems of the countries where most immigrants come from.  But they also say that the government does not cover the cost of prescription medicines, and dental care.  There are no surprises there.

I am sure there are people who have so far failed to integrate successfully within the Canadian labor force and society in general.  The system has not worked much for some and I sincerely hope they get all the help that they need.  But think about these: There is a reason why Canada is high up on the Human Development Index in the company of the most developed nations of the world.  There is a reason why it has a lower unemployment rate than most first world countries, including the US and much of the Eurozone.  And there is a reason why, despite these horror stories, there are hundreds of us in this forum (and presumably thousands more outside) who are knocking on the gates of Canada for a slice of the opportunity to have better lives.

[Canuckpitman]

Highly educated immigrants fare better in U.S. than Canada
By Joe Friesen
DEMOGRAPHICS REPORTER— From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Jan. 14, 2011 9:09PM EST

New research shows university-educated immigrants earn significantly less in Canada than they do in the United States, a troubling sign for a country determined to attract the best and brightest in the global hunt for talent.
The research shows that from 1980 to 2005 highly educated recent immigrants to Canada saw their earnings slide dramatically in comparison to Canadian-born university graduates. Today, new Canadian male immigrants with university degrees earn about 50 per cent less than their Canadian-born counterparts, while the gap in the U.S. is a much smaller 30 per cent.
That's a significant change from 1980, when newly arrived university-educated immigrants (those with five years or fewer in their new countries) fared about the same on both sides of the border.
The study's lead author, Aneta Bonikowska of Statistics Canada, said immigrant fortunes in the two countries began to diverge in the 1990s. But why that's the case isn't entirely clear. Ms. Bonikowska said the difference is not due to recruitment strategies, because in-demand engineers and IT specialists flooded the labour markets of both countries about equally. Nor is it due to more employer-linked immigration in the U.S., according to her research.
The answer remains a bit elusive, but there are a few possible explanations that need more research, she said.
“One is that there's been a much more rapid increase in the supply of university-educated new immigrants in Canada than the U.S., so supply may be an issue. The second is language ability,” Ms. Bonikowska said.
From 1980 to 2005, Canada began accepting a much higher proportion of university graduates than it had in the past. In 1980, a little more than 20 per cent of new arrivals had university degrees. By 2005 it was roughly 55 per cent. In the United States, meanwhile, the proportion of university graduates rose much more slowly, reaching about 35 per cent in 2005.
Canada's source countries also changed dramatically over that period, as immigrants from Europe were replaced by immigrants from Asia. As a result, the proportion of new immigrants to Canada who speak neither English nor French at home increased from 50 per cent in the late 1970s to just over 80 per cent since 2001, which could have had an effect in the labour market. U.S. immigration source countries didn't change much over that period but their rates of foreign languages spoken at home are not much different than Canada's.
Perhaps more troubling for those considering immigration to Canada, the immigrant wage gap persists even 11 to 15 years after arrival, according to the study. University-educated immigrants who arrived in Canada in the late 1960s made about 10 per cent less than their domestic-born counterparts after they'd spent a decade establishing themselves. For those that arrived in the early 1990s, the gap was about 30 per cent after 10 years in Canada. In the U.S., by comparison, the 1960s arrivals earned slightly more than the U.S.-born a decade after arrival, and the 1990s group just 12 per cent less.
At a networking conference for internationally educated professionals in Toronto Friday, more than 1,000 job seekers were told about another new study that concluded “becoming more Canadian” held the key to finding work in Canada. The study, commissioned by the Progress Career Planning Institute, surveyed employers and successful job seekers, and found that investing in language skills, seeking out mentorship and networking with others in their profession were the most reliable strategies for new immigrant job seekers.
Wei Chen, a conference attendee, came to Canada in 2005 expecting to find work in international trade, having taught at a Chinese university.
He was sorely disappointed. When a man knocked on his door selling natural gas, Mr. Chen decided to follow his example. For a year and a half he went door to door selling gas contracts. He said it was miserable work, so he decided he had to make a change. He eventually invested in a one-year college program in career counselling. That led to an internship, which led to a full-time job as a career coach.
“As internationally educated professionals we have to remember we have our own advantages,” Mr. Chen said. “We can speak languages others can't. We represent other cultures and that can help organizations reach a common goal.”
He said 10 per cent of his clients now are Mandarin speaking, and they turn to him for advice on how to find work.
“I tell them that it will not be easy to find a job, but you can start out in a basic job, getting some experience, or you can volunteer,” he said.

[Canuckpitman]

Future Canadians,

I just hope that what you indicated in your proof of funds is yours and yours alone, not borrowed from relatives or friends. You will certainly need that money to adjust on a different lifestyle.

For a family of four, these are your estimated expenses (all in CAD)

- Rent = roughly 1,200 depending on the city you live in
- Food = 800-1000
- Electricity = 60
- Heat = maybe free if you are renting a condo
- Daycare expenses (if your kids are below 12) = 1000
- Transportation expenses (I am assuming you are using the train or bus) = 200
-Cable, phone, internet bundle = 200

So, that is about CAD 3660 a month. Let's just say that you refused to do odd jobs because of pride (I didn't go to Canada to be a freaking housecleaner or dishwasher! I have an MBA ! ) and because you can't stomach the thought that this is so humiliating. Three months in and you have spent around CAD 10,000 with no job in sight commensurate to your experience. What are you going to do? Enroll in Bridging programs that are just Government lip service and in reality, Canadian employers refuse to recognize and give a damn.

What I am saying is that there is a mismatch on what Canada requires pertaining to foreign skilled workers compared to the requirements of the Canadian employers. Heck, these employers don't even know the difference between FSW1 and FSW2, does not know the real value of IELTS etc. In their eyes, you are an immigrant and all your credentials don't mean a thing because you didn't get it in Canuck country. I pray that at least half of what you expect here in Canada will come to fruition. Goodluck mates.