July 01, 2011 FSW Applicants_MI 3

[now]

Hello friends,
I am filling out the new generic form which is quite confusing,to say the least  I need help !!!!! There are some questions which do not apply to my case e.g, quebec certificate. If I leave it blank, the box becomes gray. My questions are:
1. I cannot type N/A as there is no option for that. What should i do as I've read that we should not leave any question unanswered?
2. If I take out a print and then write n/a by hand will it not effect the bar code page?
    I will keep on asking questions as I go along, please do not mind
 Someone please answer. I need help URGENTLY

[brebu]

To now:

Once that area is grayed out, you don't need to do anything to it anymore. No need to write N/A afterwards, that's what the gray is for.
You can however add other stuff by hand after you printed it out. Before you print it though, validate it and it will create an extra bar-code page, which you need to print and place in front of the checklist, even though it's page 6.

[Mr Mak]

Furthermore based on the update OP6 - completeness check as per R10:

•required forms, including a signed and completed IMM 0008E GEN containing the name, birth
date, address, nationality, marital status and current immigration status of the applicant and
all family members (whether accompanying or not), and identifying the principal applicant,
properly completed Schedule 1's for the principal applicant, his or her spouse or common-law
partner and all dependent children aged 18 and older listed on the IMM 0008, as well as a
properly completed Schedule 3 for the principal applicant;
• the results of the principal applicant's English or French language test from a designated
testing agency (see section 12.6)
• evidence of payment of the applicable fees (please see Section 5.4 for more information on (note: it only asked for evidence of payment)
fees);
• the visa, permit or authorization being applied for;
• the class in which the application is made;
• the Use of a Representative form, if appropriate;
• a signed statement to the effect that the information provided is complete and accurate;
• any information and documents that may be required by the Act and Regulations.

the next step would be the assessment:

The CIO will assess the applicant's submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility
under the MI issued on June 26, 2010. To be eligible for processing, the applicant must meet all
the criteria described in the MI. If the application is eligible for processing, the applicant will be
informed. Once processing has begun, the cost recovery fee is no longer refundable.

The statement in bold text are the one that I am most concerned of.... why will you charge a CC/BD even if it is complete but would not at least meet the minimum criteria and then file a refund request for the applicant?

Evidence to consider when making the final determination of eligibility for processing
Review the application and determine whether it meets all the criteria of the MI. For an application
to be considered for processing under these Instructions, the applicant, on the date of application,
must:
• have experience in the last ten years under one or more (see note below) of the National
Occupation Classification (NOC) codes specified in the MI, and the application does not
exceed the maximum of 20,000 new, complete applications per year with no more than 1,000
applications of this maximum in any one NOC category;
or
• have an Arranged Employment Offer (AEO) consistent with requirements of subsection
R82(2) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR).

Next step: when the application is in process

Officers will review the application in detail, considering all the information and documentation
provided, and assess it against the following minimal requirements and selection criteria for
FSWs.

So? this means that even the eligibility review has a lot of stages/steps to follow that we can not say on when and at what specific portion of the entire process they charge your payments.  my logical hunch is at the preliminary review to avoid refund process, why? Imagine a BD, first was purchased using local currency converted to CAD. Refund would be in CAD. you can not simply encash the refund check as it is a crossed check and since it is in CAD you have to open a Dollar account for it. CC refund is also tedious depending on the financial institution. Based on my personal experience we have a system that process refund request for CC charged, first that charges may be considered as pending but the transaction already went thru, or it was already drawn into the account of the payee. the financial institution must request the auth code in order to process the refund. The hell with this financial institutions, I had customers who would even wait for months just to receive a credit back on their accounts, so I would have to call the financial institution, provide them all codes and everything and again wait for the next billing cycle.

This is the reality applicants would have to face that is why CIC have to be cautious in charging fee payments.

2 Thumbs Up for angel's analysis. Lets hope this is the process CIC follows, which sh/would completely eliminate refund process off book.

I agree, CIC sh/would hate refund process as they gain nothing by encashing (on completness check) & refunding (on NER)..just waste of time on their part, getting BD prepared to be refunded... already they are choked up with backlogs...

[now]

To now:

Once that area is grayed out, you don't need to do anything to it anymore. No need to write N/A afterwards, that's what the gray is for.
You can however add other stuff by hand after you printed it out. Before you print it though, validate it and it will create an extra bar-code page, which you need to print and place in front of the checklist, even though it's page 6.

@ brebu, thanks a million. But I read about a post June 2010 applicant whose application was returned only because he failed to write N/A. Sorry if I sound thick but I do not want to make a mistake as this is the second time I am applying.Please answer

[rasance]

Thats what exactly i wanna say. No backlog is there if it is then not more than a week. The complete applications are upto date. What u say??

i can't agree more, as what's the point in piling up applications till now ?
for example, if the 391 1122 appl. is form the first week only, why do they still receive appls for that noc.#?

[Valeto]

Hi to you all

We would like to report that the payment for our documents received on 07.07.2011 was encashed today.
NOC 1122
Payment method CC
No Agent used
Docs sent on 02.07
Visa office - Bucharest

Good luck to you all and god bless you

[now]

Hi to you all

We would like to report that the payment for our documents received on 07.07.2011 was encashed today.
NOC 1122
Payment method CC
No Agent used
Docs sent on 02.07
Visa office - Bucharest

Good luck to you all and god bless you

Congratulations Valeto,all the best for the rest of the process.

[asyed97]

Thats what exactly i wanna say. No backlog is there if it is then not more than a week. The complete applications are upto date. What u say??

Hi Guys,

Here is some information on what CIO do after receving application, its not updated for MI3 though, but basically the same process apply
cic.gc.ca/English/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

Syed

[jubes]

HI

Can some one please , tell how long does it take after fess been taken to get file number

thanks

[Ravi_07]

1 month of backlog under 1122............?
Ridiculous...............

People applying under other noc also have not confirmed cc/bd encashment beyond 7 th july.....


So for the moment v can stay positive............
Nd hope that the update on the website reflects a backlog of 2-3 days

[grimreaper]

1 month of backlog under 1122............?
Ridiculous...............

People applying under other noc also have not confirmed cc/bd encashment beyond 7 th july.....


So for the moment v can stay positive............
Nd hope that the update on the website reflects a backlog of 2-3 days

I second this view...

[Big O]

The gap is widening, on the 22nd of July there was a note on this forum that a cc for a 5th of JUly applicant was charged, that was after 17 days,now it is a month.CIC is keeping everyone on the tenterhooks.

Probably because of weekends as they receive applications 7 days a week (or they get those received on the weekend delivered to them next working day) but they open and check applications 5 days a week; 4 weeks per month = 8 days of delay each month i.e. 17+8= 25 + 5 days being lazy (I guess) way too many questions to answer... I give up, better to just wait for the PER...

[Big O]

I must disagree.

Payment is taken BEFORE the eligibility review, and after the completeness check - unless CIO have drastically changed the system since last year. Payment was taken just a few days to be cashed, but eligibility email was still taking at least 4/5 weeks.

Wayne.

Agreed.

[imcomingcanada]

I second this view...

[grimreaper]

1 month of backlog under 1122............?
Ridiculous...............

People applying under other noc also have not confirmed cc/bd encashment beyond 7 th july.....


So for the moment v can stay positive............
Nd hope that the update on the website reflects a backlog of 2-3 days

BTW.. u were missing all these days? where were u? Even cow is not  to be seen..