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Darya2005
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« on: April 17, 2009, 08:11:35 am »

On the CIC website under the live-in caregiver process it says areas of study COULD be:( to claim the 6 months full time education)

To claim training, it must be full-time training in a classroom setting. Areas of study COULD be early childhood education, geriatric care, pediatric nursing or first aid.

Does a 4 year university teacher degree in foreign languages not comply? Does anyone know if there is a place that I could find very  specific info on what education qualifies or disqualifies?

I am sure that somewhere out there in Canada, someone is a live-in caregiver who was a teacher in some other subject as well such as foreign language? I think that CIC just thinks that my prospective live in caregiver is a risk to not return after the visa is completed. Funny enough, my prospective caregiver doesn't even have intentions of applying as a permanent resident, she does want to return to her country as her family is there and just wants the cultural experience and has travelled to USA, UAE etc....before.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 02:06:29 pm »

Hi

On the CIC website under the live-in caregiver process it says areas of study COULD be:( to claim the 6 months full time education)

To claim training, it must be full-time training in a classroom setting. Areas of study COULD be early childhood education, geriatric care, pediatric nursing or first aid.

Does a 4 year university teacher degree in foreign languages not comply? Does anyone know if there is a place that I could find very  specific info on what education qualifies or disqualifies?

I am sure that somewhere out there in Canada, someone is a live-in caregiver who was a teacher in some other subject as well such as foreign language? I think that CIC just thinks that my prospective live in caregiver is a risk to not return after the visa is completed. Funny enough, my prospective caregiver doesn't even have intentions of applying as a permanent resident, she does want to return to her country as her family is there and just wants the cultural experience and has travelled to USA, UAE etc....before.


Not a chance for a foreign language teacher.

PMM
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Darya2005
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 02:35:22 pm »

Really? Why not? Here is part of the curriculum for her degree, she had 4 teaching internships with preschool and them from ages 7-14 years old. I don't want to give up :-(
Pedagogical faculty
050103 – “Pedagogy and Psychology”, assigning qualification of Bachelor of Pedagogy and Psychology
050102 – “Pedagogy and Methods of Elementary Teaching”, assigning qualification of Bachelor
050101 – “Preschool Teaching and Upbringing”, assigning qualification of Bachelor
6N0103 – “Pedagogy”, assigning qualification of Master of Pedagogy and Psychology
13.00.00 – PhD, assigning scientific degree of Doctor of Philosophy
13.00.01 – “General Pedagogy, History of Pedagogy and Education, Ethnic Pedagogy”, post-graduate studies
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 03:15:53 pm »

Maybe she is over-qualified.
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PR=Permanent resident - TFW=temporary foreign worker
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AEO=arranged employment offer - LMO=labour market opinion
CEC=Canadian experience class - PNP=provincial nominee program
Darya2005
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 03:33:11 pm »

Is this really a possible reason to be over- qualified?  I emailed Jason Kenney ( Minister of CIC) and my MP, but I doubt I will hear anything back personally from him :-)
I am going to re-apply and have her sign the 'Use of a Representative Form". I also looked into a nanny agency helping with our re-application, but all they do is guide through the application process, but she still has to apply on her own, so I may as well do it myself for her and save the agency fee of over $1000. Does anyone think using an agency can really help? If so, I will go that route.
CIC will likely say No again, but all I can do is try. My daughter is heartbroken , she really loves her.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 03:36:34 pm »

If she was denied, they must have told you why.  Did they give a reason why?  Can you ask?
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2009, 01:37:04 am »

She is OVERQUALIFIED
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Darya2005
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 05:27:16 am »

Here is the reason they gave below. We have called the embassy to request an interview so she can discuss her education in detail, however, no human being answers just a message that says to Fax or Email inquires and a response will be within 21 days!

Accordingly, your application is refused.Specifically,
you do not have the required training or experince in a filed or occupation related to the employment of which the work permit is sought, namely, successful completion of six months of full time training in a classroom setting related to your perspective employment; OR completion of one year of full-time paid employment, including at least six months of continuous employment with one employer in such a field or occupation, within the three years immediately before the day on which you submitted your application for a work permit. [Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations 112(c)].

Your application has been assessed under the Immigration Act and Regulation. Based on your submissions, you do not meet the necessary criteria for eligibility. Your file is now closed. If your existing situation changes, please feel free to submit a new application for consideartion under a new offer of employment filed on your behalf. Your new application will then be assessed according to the Immigration Regulations in force at the time of submission.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 05:33:19 am »

So basically she is denied because she doesn't have the specific nanny course or 1 year work experience as a nanny.
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Darya2005
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 01:53:22 pm »

I think so. Does one have to take a specific nanny course? I really thought her degree would be enough :-(
Anyways, wish me luck, I am going to re-apply for her , don't know if it will help, but all I can do is try.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 11:23:51 pm »

Each Additional denial makes her case worse Send her to Nanny school thats what my friend a Manager at West Coast Domestic A Nanny Service None Profit society told me,Otherwise after you are denied 4-5 times,You will get the message
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Darya2005
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 05:18:23 am »

BC guy,
Would she need a student or travel visa for this? I wonder what her chances are of even getting that since she was denied?
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 05:19:36 am »

She can do a nanny course where she lives
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Darya2005
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 05:28:10 am »

Good question LEON, I will ask her if there is anything that is 6 months long and associated costs....but this still obviously does not guarantee a visa and I need a nanny sooner as I am returning to my public servant position this fall :-(
So honestly here BC guy and LEON, if I re-apply for her, what are my chances really? Too bad they don't have Tim Horton's in Moscow, or else I would have slipped a few gift certificates in the application, ha haha!! ( Just kidding of course )
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Darya2005
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2009, 05:30:31 am »

ps....I am in Ottawa, anyone know of a Nanny course here? This way I can provide accommodations. I just checked the net quickly and didn't see anything.
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