Working Permit first then Permanent Visa

[Tedi]

Hy there, everyone!

Some of you here are true experts on advising. But I have some dilemma. Here's the thing.

I would like to work and live Canada as soon as possible and I saw that PR is taking about six months to year and a half to get Visa, while working permit is a matter of weeks. My embassy is in Wienn. Is it possible to get working permit and then apply for a PR from Canada? My intention is to settle in Vancouver BC, where my father lives.

He will give me all support there and I have a letter from my future employer which says that he will guarantee me a full-time job in a well established  company (all contacts are on the letter if embassy would like to check). My intention is to continue my education for mechanical engineer.
Can I count this letter as an arranged employment? If yes, this is a good thing, because then I have enough points to go for PR.
But as I was saying, I would really like to go there as soon as possible.

So, my question: is that real possibility?

I hope you are not thinking I got idea from yesterday, I know some people have to wait for years to be approved and I have been thinking about it for more than 10 years. I just know my time has come, so any advise will be most appreciated.

-Ted-

[Tedi]

Just some additional info:

I'll be 30 by August, 5 yrs self-employed in graphic and interior designing, airbrushing, window displaying, second year student for mechanical engineer in university, 1 child.

-Ted-

[ocanada]

u need a job if u want to settle in that province in particular but this job has to be approved by the hrdc canada.
then only can a valid work permit be issued.
wish you all the best :)

[Tedi]

yeah, ocanada. I think you are right about that. So,the next step would be my employer fill this emp5239e.pdf form and send it to Service Canada Temporary Foreign Workers?
Here I get a little confused, cause there are some of addresses I researched to submit for Service Canada and have no idea which is the right one:

Submit foreign worker application for LMO:


1.Service Canada
  Temporary Foreign Workers
  PO Box 6500
  Toronto LCD, Downsview A
  Toronto ON M3M 3K4
  fax: 416-954-3107 or 1.866-720-6094


2.Service Canada
  Temporary Foreign Workers-Centre of Specialization
  1 Agar place, PO Box 7000
  Saint John, NB E2L 4V4
  fax: 1-866-585-7524

Other occupation - British Columbia/Yukon:
3.Service Canada
  Employer Services
  1400 - 300 W.Georgia st.
  Vancouver BC
  V6B 6G3
  fax: (604) 666-8920

I will work as a Machinist (assistance) - so I guess 4-digit code is - 9511 (Machining tool operators)

Can you help me with the addresses, please? Which one is right? Maybe I'm wrong and none of them are right.

Thank you!

PS: I guess this occupation (Machinist) is not under pressure list

[Tedi]

which is the right one? anybody?

[PMM]

Hi

which is the right one? anybody?

1.  Your employer can complete the information on line: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/fwp_application.shtml
and since the employer is in BC, it goes to Vancouver.
2,  Do you have experience as a Machinist?  It is unlikely that an LMO would be approved for a Machinist Assistant, as it would appear to a labouring type job. 
3.  You should note that 9511 is not a skilled trade it fails within Category C of the National Occupational Classification.  Only jobs that are categorized as skill level A,B, or O are considered skilled trades for Immigration purposes.

PMM

[Tedi]

Hi all,

sorry for late reply,
but 9511 Machine tool operator is listed under national occupations under pressure list for BC.

Can I go with provincial nominee program if so?
willing to start as 1.year apprenticeship
do i still need a LMO or just a job offer from employer

here's the list:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/oup/BC_ROL_200709_e.pdf

[Leon]

When they say the occupation is under pressure, I am pretty sure they mean they want people who already have experience doing that job.  If they just wanted a first year apprentice, they could hire one from the street.

[BCguy]

He is PNP eligible in BC in that category as long as his employer will fill in the requirements,We would process him and probably nominate him.please visit the BC PNP website.

[Tedi]

Hi,

Leon, yes I could agree with you that they could pick someone from the street. But they are willing to give that job to ME. And for me this is great news, i'm sure you could agree with that.

BCGuy, i've been on BC PNP site and there i found occupation under skilled trades (NOC B)

-Machinists, Millwrights and Industrial Mechanics

That is the kind of occupation my (hopefully future:) employer is willing to give me.

I'm also self-employed for nearly 5y, more or less in graphic designing and illustrating with airbrush. But I guess it's great that i'm now working as a TIG and laser welder as part of my educational process.

I have a question about Middle managment occupations (NOC Skill Level O ). Do I ,as self-employed (for 5y after Sept. 1st), fit in that category?

And
Thanks for all responses.

[Leon]

Leon, yes I could agree with you that they could pick someone from the street. But they are willing to give that job to ME. And for me this is great news, i'm sure you could agree with that.

Absolutely, that is good news for you and I have no problem with that.  I think everybody should be able to come as long as there are jobs.  I just thought that to immigrate as a skilled worker under a PNP, you'd have to already have the skills.  I know that the Alberta PNP has that requirement and does not nominate apprentices.

On the BC PNP website, it doesn't actually say they don't nominate apprentices but they say this:

Skilled Trades (NOC Skill Level B)

Employment requirements:
2 – 5 years of apprenticeship training and apprenticeship or trades certification, and several years of directly related work experience

If a trade has no compulsory certification requirements, the BC PNP may accept applications for workers who have a sufficient combination of education, training, and experience

[Tedi]

Hey Leon,

I must admit you are right. I know they need worker with skills already, but the good news is that i'm on my way to get those skills. And I see that this process (PNP) is way faster, but not overnight. It could be a year or so. Of course I don't expect to get my wow job right away. I have that luck perhaps, that my father is living in BC so I don't have concerns with a place to live in the beginning. So it's a good starting point.
BTW I've been there (BC) for 3 months .  .  . who wouldn't fell in love with such amazing environment. I mean, the nature is just beautiful.

Thanks again

[Tedi]

Hi,
BCguy, you said ....LMO is not needed for BC PNP?... Just guaranteed job offer?

[BCguy]

Yes,Download the forms for application under Strategic Occupations in the BC PNP website

[Tedi]

BCguy,

another question:
Must this Guaranteed Job Offer form be filled by employer and sent to me or to BC PNP office? 
And on section F. Authorization Signature - is that PNP officer signing or employer?

Thanks again BC, you rock!!