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Author Topic: IMPORTANT - need to send ALL documents to the CIO now (not visa office)  (Read 155037 times)
coolraj143
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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2010, 06:43:35 am »

Hi

I want to apply for a Canada PR but i am unable to choose the category for PR. My qualification is BCA and MBA HR and I am having 4 years Hotel manager experience

Can anybody help me to decide under which category i apply

if u have suggestions feel free to mail me at rajjjs.gupta @ gmail.com
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« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2010, 10:22:27 am »

This forum is providing bunch of helpful information.
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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2010, 11:01:48 am »

Hi

I want to apply for a Canada PR but i am unable to choose the category for PR. My qualification is BCA and MBA HR and I am having 4 years Hotel manager experience

Can anybody help me to decide under which category i apply

if u have suggestions feel free to mail me at rajjjs.gupta  @  gmail.com


0631 Restaurant and Food Service Managers

Restaurant and food service managers plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of restaurants, bars, cafeterias and other food and beverage services. They are employed in food and beverage service establishments, or they may be self-employed.

Main duties
Restaurant and food service managers perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Plan, organize, direct, control and evaluate the operations of a restaurant, bar, cafeteria or other food or beverage service
    * Determine type of services to be offered and implement operational procedures
    * Recruit staff and oversee staff training
    * Set staff work schedules and monitor staff performance
    * Control inventory, monitor revenues and modify procedures and prices
    * Resolve customer complaints and ensure health and safety regulations are followed
    * Negotiate arrangements with suppliers for food and other supplies
    * Negotiate arrangements with clients for catering or use of facilities for banquets or receptions.

Employment requirements

    * Completion of a college or other program related to hospitality or food and beverage service management is usually required.

    * Several years of experience in the food service sector, including supervisory experience, are required.

Additional information

    * Progression to senior management in food service is possible with experience.

Classified elsewhere

    * Dietitians and Nutritionists (3132)
    * Executive chefs (in 6241 Chefs )
    * Food Service Supervisors (6212)
    * Senior managers in food service (in 0015 Senior Managers - Trade, Broadcasting and Other Services, n.e.c. )

Example Titles:

    *  assistant bar manager
    * assistant manager – bar
    * assistant manager, restaurant
    * banquet manager
    * bar manager
    * beverage service manager
    * café manager
    * cafeteria manager
    * canteen manager
    * canteen service district manager
    * canteen services manager
    * catering service manager
    * cybercafé manager
    * dining establishment managing supervisor
    * dining room manager
    * district manager, canteen service
    * fast food restaurant manager
    * food and beverage service manager
    * food services manager
    * food services officer, base – military
    * food services steward – military
    * hotel food and beverage service manager
    * Internet café manager
    * logistics officer (food services) – military
    * manager trainee, restaurant
    * manager, café
    * manager, catering service
    * manager, cybercafé
    * manager, food and beverage service
    * manager, food services
    * manager, hotel food and beverage service
    * manager, Internet café
    * manager, restaurant
    * managing supervisor, dining establishment
    * restaurant assistant manager
    * restaurant manager
    * restaurateur – food services
    * steward, food services – military
    * tea room manager

Source:

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/Profile.aspx?val=0&val1=0631

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/ViewAllTitles.aspx?val=0&val1=0631

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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2010, 11:06:06 am »

Hi

I want to apply for a Canada PR but i am unable to choose the category for PR. My qualification is BCA and MBA HR and I am having 4 years Hotel manager experience

Can anybody help me to decide under which category i apply

if u have suggestions feel free to mail me at rajjjs.gupta  @  gmail.com


6242 Cooks

Cooks prepare and cook a wide variety of foods. They are employed in restaurants, hotels, hospitals and other health care institutions, central food commissaries, educational institutions and other establishments. Cooks are also employed aboard ships and at construction and logging campsites. Apprentice cooks are included in this unit group.

Example Titles
    *  apprentice cook
    * assistant cook
    * banquet cook
    * breakfast cook
    * broiler cook
    * cafeteria cook
    * camp cook
    * caterer cook
    * construction camp cook
    * cook
    * cook, apprentice
    * cook, camp
    * cook, domestic
    * cook, ethnic foods
    * cook, first
    * cook, fishing and merchant vessel
    * cook, institution
    * cook, kosher foods
    * cook, second
    * cook, small establishment
    * cook, third
    * diet kitchen cook
    * dietary cook
    * domestic cook
    * ethnic food cook
    * first cook
    * grill cook
    * hospital cook
    * institutional cook
    * journeyman/woman cook
    * kosher foods cook
    * licensed cook
    * line cook
    * logging camp cook
    * mess cook
    * pastry cook
    * pizza cook
    * railway cook
    * restaurant cook
    * second cook
    * ship's cook
    * short order cook
    * special diet cook
    * special orders cook, hospital
    * therapeutic diet cook
    * third cook



Main duties

Cooks perform some or all of the following duties:

    * Prepare and cook complete meals or individual dishes and foods
    * Prepare and cook special meals for patients as instructed by dietitian or chef
    * Schedule and supervise kitchen helpers
    * Oversee kitchen operations
    * Maintain inventory and records of food, supplies and equipment
    * May set up and oversee buffets
    * May clean kitchen and work area
    * May plan menus, determine size of food portions, estimate food requirements and costs, and monitor and order supplies.
    * May hire and train kitchen staff
    * Cooks may specialize in preparing and cooking ethnic cuisine or special dishes.

Employment requirements

    * Completion of secondary school is usually required.

    * Completion of a three-year apprenticeship program for cooks
      or
      Completion of college or other program in cooking
      or
      Several years of commercial cooking experience are required.

    * Trade certification is available but voluntary in all provinces and Territories.

    * Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified cooks.

Additional information

    * There is mobility among the various types of cooks in this group.
    * Progression to supervisory or more senior positions, such as chef, is possible with experience and training.
    * Red Seal trade certification allows for interprovincial mobility.


Source:

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6242

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2006/ViewAllTitles.aspx?val=6&val1=6242
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AEO=arranged employment offer - LMO=labour market opinion
CEC=Canadian experience class - PNP=provincial nominee program
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« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2010, 11:06:55 am »

you are right, u need to send all docs to CIO, not new delhi office. I assume new delhi CHC hasnt updated their check list per new rule. But dont worry, follow CIO instruction---they will evaluate ur case this time.
you have all complete list - well done!

best,
S!
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2010, 04:19:59 am »

The CIO will take care of sending the documents to the visa office if you are applying after June 26, 2010 once they review your application and determine it is eligible for processing.

(If, on the other hand, the CIO received your application before June 26, 2010 then you still need to submit the documents to the visa office during the 120 day period after you receive your first AOR)

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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2010, 04:27:21 am »

I do not think need to send all the document with Initial Application
Please check Point 12 on http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5612E.PDF
they clearly mention in form IMM5612E
This document checklist (use it as the cover page)
Submit only the documents requested on this checklist.


I think u r wrong...we need to send all documents to CIO..
In form IMM5612E, This document checklist (use it as the cover page) means the document checklist of visa office not the checklist of CIO.
       Submit only the documents requested on this checklist, means submit the documents requested on the visa office checklist, no need to provide application forms cause u have already included application forms.
Hope u have understood
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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2010, 05:01:16 am »

I think u r wrong...we need to send all documents to CIO..
In form IMM5612E, This document checklist (use it as the cover page) means the document checklist of visa office not the checklist of CIO.
       Submit only the documents requested on this checklist, means submit the documents requested on the visa office checklist, no need to provide application forms cause u have already included application forms.
Hope u have understood

But , Why they are mention in Imporatant Indication.
This document checklist (use it as the cover page)
Submit only the documents requested on this checklist
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2010, 06:05:57 am »

Yes, Will send all the document with the Initial application
thanks for Reply
Page no 17  on EG7.pdf

What documents are required?
Use the Document Checklist (IMM 5612) to help you gather the necessary documents to submit your application to the CIO.
Make sure to consult the document checklist (IMM 5612) and the Visa Office specific requirements (supporting documents) for your country at: www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled-mission.asp
to determine what documents you will need to provide. If you are not prepared to submit full documentation to the CIO do not apply now.
If you do not submit a complete application with the supporting documents, your application will be returned to you.
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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2010, 06:07:21 am »

Hi Guys....

This is my first post...and I am very 'inexperienced' about the immigration process....having said that....I spent the entire day going through the posts....we have here are very very experienced and intelligent folks ready to help....

Now to my query....Smiley

I had applied earlier for canada pr...in 2008....after the canadian govt, came with new rules i.e. they were coming out with a list of 18 NOC to be considered...in Feb 2008 I guess. I applied in 2008 before the list came out....unfortunately my occupation was not listed in teh 18 list.

Now for the new 29 NOC list....I fall in 1122, but this is different from the NOC (1112) i had applied earlier for. (by the way I received an email from the canadian authorities in Feb 2010, that my application is rejected and I will get the refund).....now if I apply again in 1122...will the authorities get suspicious that my profile has changed...though I am in the same company...I am not lying by telling them about 1122..but I do perform some of the 1122 responsibilites.

Please help...since I am very eager and want to apply as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance,
Inexperienced
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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2010, 11:08:21 am »

Hi Guys....

This is my first post...and I am very 'inexperienced' about the immigration process....
...

I see you also started a new thread and have gotten advice there, so let's keep the conversation at http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/applying-again-with-the-new-noc-list-please-advice-t46979.0.html.  Good luck with your application!
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These are just some thoughts based on the information available, what I've read, and my experience.  I am not an expert; if you want the facts, cic.gc.ca has a wealth of information.  Good luck with your application!  Hope you have a wonderful day *smile*
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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2010, 01:05:03 pm »

That seems to be a positive move. But when it comes about submitting documents/applications, you mean the initial application? My initial application was sent on 12th March and I received an AOR for the same. I am not very clear at which stage do we need to submit all the documents.
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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2010, 01:22:53 pm »

Hi Experts

Kindly share a sample LOR for job experience to be submitted for FSW.

Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2010, 06:06:30 pm »

That seems to be a positive move. But when it comes about submitting documents/applications, you mean the initial application? My initial application was sent on 12th March and I received an AOR for the same. I am not very clear at which stage do we need to submit all the documents.

Given that the CIO received your application before the new Ministerial Instructions were issued on June 26, 2010 your application is still processed according to the old rules and the changes in this thread do not apply to you.
You should still follow the old process and send all the supporting documents to the visa office, within the 120 days as the CIO instructed you in the AOR.
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These are just some thoughts based on the information available, what I've read, and my experience.  I am not an expert; if you want the facts, cic.gc.ca has a wealth of information.  Good luck with your application!  Hope you have a wonderful day *smile*
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2010, 01:08:34 am »

But , Why they are mention in Imporatant Indication.
This document checklist (use it as the cover page)
Submit only the documents requested on this checklist

Punjabi,
  let me explain it to u. when we will send our all documents to CIO we have to mainitain following order:
            1. Document checklist of CIO(it is the cover page)
            2. Application forms
            3. Passport pages
            4. Original GT IELTS result
            5. Visa office document checklist(it will be the cover page of the additional documents requested by visa office)
            6. Documents requested by visa office
So, Document checklist of CIO is the main cover page & Visa office document checklist is the cover page of the additional documents requested by the visa office.
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