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tink23
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« on: May 08, 2011, 07:41:10 pm »

These are a list of yes or no questions the applicant must answer. One of the says: "Have you ever been detained or put in jail."
One 2 occasions my future spouse was taken to the police station for an infraction with his moto (one time his head light was out another time for speeding). Many places will just issue a ticket, but in Dominican Republic where he is from the traffic officers are often a little loopy on power and will bring people in for this. He was never charged with anything, however he did have to spend the night in the station and was released the next morning and paid the fine for his infraction.
Should he answer "yes" to being detained since he was brought to the police station? It seems like such a stupid thing to be brought to the police station for, but that's what happens here in country where the police are often corrupt and looking for a hand out.
By answering yes to this question, will this affect his getting PR? There is a space at the bottom of all #9 questions where you can explain any question you answered "yes" too, but this question worries me because up front "Have you ever been detained or put in jail?" "Yes" it just looks bad...

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 07:49:54 pm »

These are a list of yes or no questions the applicant must answer. One of the says: "Have you ever been detained or put in jail."
One 2 occasions my future spouse was taken to the police station for an infraction with his moto (one time his head light was out another time for speeding). Many places will just issue a ticket, but in Dominican Republic where he is from the traffic officers are often a little loopy on power and will bring people in for this. He was never charged with anything, however he did have to spend the night in the station and was released the next morning and paid the fine for his infraction.
Should he answer "yes" to being detained since he was brought to the police station? It seems like such a stupid thing to be brought to the police station for, but that's what happens here in country where the police are often corrupt and looking for a hand out.
By answering yes to this question, will this affect his getting PR? There is a space at the bottom of all #9 questions where you can explain any question you answered "yes" too, but this question worries me because up front "Have you ever been detained or put in jail?" "Yes" it just looks bad...

Thanks.

Tink



I am from India and Indian Police as well as most from ASIA do the same $hit.
Unless a case is recorded ( FIR in India ) it has nothing to do and is off the record...staying in a police station is different from being in JAIL ( which = u were ordered to go to jail )

looks like you are fine..and don worry, this is common in many countries where the police is corrupted.

Unless you have proof to say YES, the answer is NO...spending a night in a police station is off the record unless a case is filed.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 07:54:49 pm »

Great. Thanks fprince! I think we'll get a police record check to make sure that nothing was recorded from it (since they are easy to get and cheap) and if there's not (which there shouldn't be) then he'll just check off "no" for this.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 08:06:02 pm »

Great. Thanks fprince! I think we'll get a police record check to make sure that nothing was recorded from it (since they are easy to get and cheap) and if there's not (which there shouldn't be) then he'll just check off "no" for this.


Understanding what you are going through, nothing was recorded don worry :-)
heard,read & seen about millions of incidents like this in India :-) Police think they are God ..they are not.

when you apply for his police clearance certificate this will all be listed & considered before they issue a NO OBJECTION CERTIFICATE to immigrate to Canada.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 08:17:05 pm »

Understanding what you are going through, nothing was recorded don worry :-)
heard,read & seen about millions of incidents like this in India :-) Police think they are God ..they are not.

when you apply for his police clearance certificate this will all be listed & considered before they issue a NO OBJECTION CERTIFICATE to immigrate to Canada.

Sorry, I'm confused. If we get a police certificate now, before we're ready to submit his papers (to ensure there was nothing recorded on his record) this will be on his police clearance certificate when we apply for the certificate from the location specified in the capital city for Dominicans wishing to immigrate to Canada?
Or do you mean that him being held over night at the police station for a moto infraction will be listed and considered and still won't pose a problem for his immigration and he will then get a No Objection Certificate?
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 08:26:42 pm »

The previous poster was talking about the Indian way, where they need a "no objection to immigrate" certificate, for the Indian government.
If the detention is not listed on your husband's police certificate in his country, then it is not listed and will not be discovered by the gov't later on, so you would be safe not to mention it.
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File Transfer...: Jan 4, 2011
Passport Req..: May 6, 2011 ( CSE EMAIL )
VISA ISSUED...: May 20, 2011 ( Received May 28 )
LANDED..........: June 21, 2011

« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 08:28:30 pm »

Sorry, I'm confused. If we get a police certificate now, before we're ready to submit his papers (to ensure there was nothing recorded on his record) this will be on his police clearance certificate when we apply for the certificate from the location specified in the capital city for Dominicans wishing to immigrate to Canada?
Or do you mean that him being held over night at the police station for a moto infraction will be listed and considered and still won't pose a problem for his immigration and he will then get a No Objection Certificate?

Your case if fine.
PCC usually expires in 3 months ( depending on your country ) so you will get one when you want to apply for his papers.

You always need to get a PCC before you apply for sponsorship..it is time saving

When do you plan to apply ? i am assuming this is outland...and your hubby is in CR.
And how long does it take in CR to get a PCC?
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2011, 08:32:20 pm »

The previous poster was talking about the Indian way, where they need a "no objection to immigrate" certificate, for the Indian government.
If the detention is not listed on your husband's police certificate in his country, then it is not listed and will not be discovered by the gov't later on, so you would be safe not to mention it.

Thanks for the clarification, Canadianwoman.

My future spouse is from Dominican Republic. He can get his police certificate same day, I believe, however, in DR there is only 1 police station that the Canadian government will accept certificates for, which is in the capital city.
We are planning to get married in July 2012, and will have almost all of the paper work ready by the wedding and so will finish the remaining paper work regarding our wedding immediately after... I would hope the application would be submitted no later than August 2012.... so we have lots of time, but I want to make sure we take our time with the applciation and make it as perfect as we can possibly make it, since the questions and paper work can be quite confusing.
Thanks again.
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