I am crying help me please

[saedmahraan]

dont cry man....bad things happen. even I am in a limbo with the canadian immigration deal...

but please dont cry...it should be all fine...

THANK YOU FOR  YOUR CONCERN SIR

[rupeshhari]

How did you have 67 points when you sent your application to Sydney?

I sent  my application  before   28  November    claiming   high   score  in English   as   my study  was in English


You know   that   when anyone  wants  his  application to be  processed  he  should   claims  high language  proficiency


After  that   the  time  of  crying   occurs
thanks

The best thing to do (given your time) is to send the letter stating that your diploma is equivalent to a masters, but in all reality, i don't know if this works. The question would be if your country offers masters, why do they call it a postgraduate diploma. I am not saying, don't apply. Rather just apply and hope for the best. Also just make sure you are okay with the cost of doing all this (in case you get rejected). If i was in your shoes, i would probably still apply. BTW, my application is week on a different front and I still applied.

[saedmahraan]

How did you have 67 points when you sent your application to Sydney?

I sent  my application  before   28  November    claiming   high   score  in English   as   my study  was in English


You know   that   when anyone  wants  his  application to be  processed  he  should   claims  high language  proficiency


After  that   the  time  of  crying   occurs
thanks

The best thing to do (given your time) is to send the letter stating that your diploma is equivalent to a masters, but in all reality, i don't know if this works. The question would be if your country offers masters, why do they call it a postgraduate diploma. I am not saying, don't apply. Rather just apply and hope for the best. Also just make sure you are okay with the cost of doing all this (in case you get rejected). If i was in your shoes, i would probably still apply. BTW, my application is week on a different front and I still applied.

THANK YOU SIR
I is the  best  answer 
of course  I appreciate  your apparent efforts in the  forum

 I depend    on the  op  6 
I think  it works  with  me   
read this  part again  please  and  till me  your  opinion

                 Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential

[rupeshhari]

 I depend    on the  op  6 
I think  it works  with  me   
read this  part again  please  and  till me  your  opinion

                 Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a
Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional”
degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it
belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor's credential is
a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then
22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for
educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher
university credential

That portion in OP6 is specifically talking about the doctor degree (the degree that actually makes you a doctor, not the specialization part). The doctor degree is confusing for many reason. In some countries, you do it as a first degree and in others, you do it as a second bachelors degree and in some others, you do it as a graduate degree. Also the length of the degrees makes in confusing. Imagine, in some countries, you do it as a first degree but take 6 years but in those same countries, you could do a bachelors and masters in Mathematics in 5 years, so classifying a medical degree can be confusing. This is why they explained it on OP6. That is my opinion anyway. Remember, i am no expert.

As for postgraduate diploma, in some countries, both a postgraduate diploma and masters are offered (i think in Canada too).

Anyway, you should apply but don't get disheartened if you do get rejected, just know that you can apply again.

Good luck.

[rupeshhari]

By the way, do they offer a masters degree in your specialization in your country?
Do they offer post grad dip and masters in the same specialization within the medical field in your country?

[saedmahraan]

By the way, do they offer a masters degree in your specialization in your country?
Do they offer post grad dip and masters in the same specialization within the medical field in your country?

Thank you  sir

they offer  both

but  the diploma   is  just  one  year full time  study   without  thesis
master   2   years  with a thesis

any way  i will  enter  ielts   agiain  if no good result achieved   thus  it will  be  a must   to   do  my best to persuade the  officer  to  reward me  with  25 degree

thanks   

[saedmahraan]

by the  way
imagine  sir  that
my total study  is   19  years

18  till  the  bachelor 
and  one  year for the  diploma

i think they  may  appreciate  that

thanks again

[saedmahraan]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK  THEY SHOULD   (YES SHOULD)  EARN ME  25 
IN SPITE  OF THAT   
STILL  CRYING

[rupeshhari]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK  THEY SHOULD   (YES SHOULD)  EARN ME  25 
IN SPITE  OF THAT  
STILL  CRYING

ok

[rupeshhari]

DEAR RUPI

I THINK  THEY SHOULD   (YES SHOULD)  EARN ME  25 
IN SPITE  OF THAT   
STILL  CRYING

Saedmaharaan, when you write the letter, don't base it on your logic, but rather on their logic. So don't contradict their rules but work along side their rules. If your logic for earning 25 points is based on 19 years of education, I think there is a greater chance of you being rejected. They are quite clear that if an undergraduate medical degree takes 18 years in total, one will still get only 20 points. So having 19 years with a postgraduate diploma in medicine is no different from having 15 years of education (say in business) and having a postgraduate diploma. If you think that 15 years of education (say in business) won't earn the applicant 25 points, the chances are neither would an applicant with medical degree and 19years of education. That is only my opinion and advice, not based on experience.

But working with their logic and showing that a PGDip is equivalent to masters by getting a statement from the ministry of education or something like that may work (may not will). Most importantly, don't state anything that is incorrect even if you believe in it. Because that would surely be marked as fraud.

[saedmahraan]

thanks  again

ielts  is the best choice 
if failed

do you think  a  letter from  the   medical  syndicate is sufficient
also I have certified  my diploma   from  the  ministry  of foreign affairs
IN addition to a letter from  my   hospital 


also   do tou think  if  i   inquire    cic   about  that issue  before   sending  my package  will sound  good  or not 

 
I seem  hazy  and anxious   but   
cet la vie

[rupeshhari]

IELTS is probably the best chance.

[PMM]

Hi

by the  way
imagine  sir  that
my total study  is   19  years

18  till  the  bachelor 
and  one  year for the  diploma

i think they  may  appreciate  that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

[saedmahraan]

Hi

by the  way
imagine  sir  that
my total study  is   19  years

18  till  the  bachelor 
and  one  year for the  diploma

i think they  may  appreciate  that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

thank you 

in egypt  the post gradute  diploma is  a full study  for  one  year 
do you think  it will helo to add points  especially   after  achiving it  the  minstry  of health  deals with us  as  specialists

thanks

[PMM]

Hi

Hi

by the  way
imagine  sir  that
my total study  is   19  years

18  till  the  bachelor 
and  one  year for the  diploma

i think they  may  appreciate  that

thanks again

1 bachelor degree 20 points nothing more nothing less.

PMM

thank you 

in egypt  the post gradute  diploma is  a full study  for  one  year 
do you think  it will helo to add points  especially   after  achiving it  the  minstry  of health  deals with us  as  specialists

thanks

No, it is neither a second bachelor nor  a Masters so no additional points other than 20.  For example in Canada an Honours degree usually takes 5 years, while a non-honours bachelors takes 4, but you still only get 20 points.  Same as teachers, they require a 4 year bachelors plus 1 years teacher training, it is still only a bachelors that is counted.


PMM