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TMSB
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« on: December 03, 2011, 06:41:36 pm »
Hi all,

A permanent residence means that you permanently can live in the country, and you should be entitled to even live outside the country without loosing your permanent residency. But I can't understand the fact that in Canada they give us permanent residence but you may loose it if you lived outside Canada for certain duration. In UK, if you got the indefinite leave you can leave the country and go anywhere any time for any duration and come back when you like! Could you please readers clarify for me?

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2011, 10:57:34 pm »
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Quote from: TMSB on December 03, 2011, 06:41:36 pm
Hi all,

A permanent residence means that you permanently can live in the country, and you should be entitled to even live outside the country without loosing your permanent residency. But I can't understand the fact that in Canada they give us permanent residence but you may loose it if you lived outside Canada for certain duration. In UK, if you got the indefinite leave you can leave the country and go anywhere any time for any duration and come back when you like! Could you please readers clarify for me?

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Because that is the way the Canadian Immigration Act was written. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2011, 11:12:57 pm »
In UK it is totally different because of the imperial heritage dealing with colonies. You can read more about it in Wikipedia.
In case of Canada solution is very simple:
live with that permanent residence permit in Canada for three years and get Canadian citizenship.
Now, you can live anywhere you want outside Canada and as long as you want and you will never loose Canadian citizenship.
That is the difference between permanent residence permit and Canadian citizenship.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 02:03:53 am »
Quote from: slavasz on December 03, 2011, 11:12:57 pm
In UK it is totally different because of the imperial heritage dealing with colonies. You can read more about it in Wikipedia.
In case of Canada solution is very simple:
live with that permanent residence permit in Canada for three years and get Canadian citizenship.
Now, you can live anywhere you want outside Canada and as long as you want and you will never loose Canadian citizenship.
That is the difference between permanent residence permit and Canadian citizenship.

will only three years do?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 02:19:37 am »
Quote from: mute_man on December 04, 2011, 02:03:53 am
will only three years do?

Yeah. three years out of four years and you are good to go to apply for citizenship. Once you have it you are free bird. Cool
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 02:24:16 am »
what about PR renewal? how much time does one have to live in Canada for the renewal?
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 03:19:59 am »
Quote from: mute_man on December 04, 2011, 02:24:16 am
what about PR renewal? how much time does one have to live in Canada for the renewal?
2 years out of five years...
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 05:14:36 am »
Quote from: mute_man on December 04, 2011, 02:24:16 am
what about PR renewal? how much time does one have to live in Canada for the renewal?

none, if the person is accompanying their Canadian citizen spouse.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 09:55:39 am »
its almost the same in UK u have to live 5 cosecutive years to get indefinite leave to remain
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 01:56:19 pm »
Sonea, yes that's right but once you got the indefinite leave to remain you can leave the uk with any obligations to return to it and you'll not lose you residency. It's a big difference.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 02:30:48 pm »
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Sonea, yes that's right but once you got the indefinite leave to remain you can leave the uk with any obligations to return to it and you'll not lose you residency. It's a big difference.

Regards

Actually, that's not correct.

You can lose ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain) status if you spend more than two years outside of the UK.

You need to become a UK citizen in order to be able to leave the UK with no obligation to return and without losing residency.

The UK ILR is actually extremely similar to Canadian PR. One could argue that Canadian PR is more generous because you can technically be outside of Canada for up to three years (vs. UK 2 years) without losing status.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 03:16:12 pm »
Scylla that's really new to me I've never heard this before and thanx for letting me know.

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2011, 03:31:19 pm »
Quote from: TMSB on December 04, 2011, 03:16:12 pm
Scylla that's really new to me I've never heard this before and thanx for letting me know.

Regards

Glad I could help!
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 08:45:36 am »
Scylla is right.

heres the info from the UKBA site...

If you have indefinite leave to remain (ILR) in the UK, you will be considered to be settled here provided that you have not been away for two years or more since you received ILR.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/eligibility/naturalisation/standardrequirements/
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