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shayanak
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« on: November 01, 2012, 03:49:57 pm »

I am a U.S. Asylee holding a US travel document and also an Indian passport (I dont have my green card yet)
I need to goto canada immidietly and need a visa and dont have time to wait for a visa.
Can I just buy a ticket/print it online and get on plane without a visa?! once I get to canada, I will just say I didnt know I have to have a visa and will hope the immigration would let me in the country specially that I have a U.S. Travel Document.
If they dont, they will just send me back to US. the loss would be just a ticket.
What do you think
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newtone
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2012, 03:55:03 pm »

Sounds kosher, if you want the airline to get rich go for it, and let us know how the trip back from the border was. They will refuse you 110%

Being an asylum seeker is one thing, over that you have an Indian passport and then on top of that no visa to enter Canada. As my wise south Indian friends say "It was Glassic"
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 05:59:20 pm »

You won't even get on a plane. The airline won't let you board without a visa.
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shayanak
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2012, 07:12:05 pm »

they will.
in US they dont check if you print your own boarding
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 07:57:47 pm »

they will.
in US they dont check if you print your own boarding

They don't if you flight is domestic (within the US). They do if your flight is international (in my experience). I saw someone get denied boarding at the departure gate last month as I was boarding a flight from the US to Canada.

But hey - it's your dollar.
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shayanak
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2012, 08:49:18 pm »

check it out
united.com/web/en-US/content/help/onlinecheckin.aspx
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shayanak
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 09:00:48 pm »

lets say I get on the flight, will canada admit me to the country or refuse?! what do you think?
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newtone
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2012, 09:06:56 pm »

check it out
united.com/web/en-US/content/help/onlinecheckin.aspx

I am assuming when you book your ticket online you have to enter your passport details, it will be flagged there

Besides the website says

"Departs from a U.S. airport or an eligible airport outside of the U.S."
The key word is eligible and they also do not mention international airport.
Hawaii is geographically located outside US but its considered domestic flight. Canadian airports are considered as international airports.
If you are in doubt and want to genuinely visit Canada as a visitor just call the airline and fine out. Otherwise if you have any other intention of coming into Canada and trying to find a loop hole at the border or in the system then its a totally different story
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shayanak
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2012, 09:15:16 pm »

I have talked to the airline.
I can get boarded and get to canada. lets put this aside.

once I arrive canada, what should I expect from immigration? would they refuse me from entring the country and send me back or would they take time, run their processes and if everything good let me in?
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newtone
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2012, 09:20:18 pm »

They will send you back because you dont have documentation to enter Canada, its a very clear case
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2012, 09:26:34 pm »

I know you don't want to listen, but you should read the following:

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/destination/international/passport.aspx

Specifically:

Entry requirements

All destination countries, including the United States, have travel document requirements for entry. In addition to any travel document requirements for departure, customers must satisfy travel document requirements for entry into the destination country and, depending on the itinerary, for transit through a country.
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shayanak
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2012, 09:39:24 pm »

look,

I understand and I appreciate it. worst case senario I will lose a ticket. thats fine. I have to goto canada tomorrow. emergency situation. I just need to know if I get there, what would the border officers do?
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2012, 10:28:13 pm »

look,

I understand and I appreciate it. worst case senario I will lose a ticket. thats fine. I have to goto canada tomorrow. emergency situation. I just need to know if I get there, what would the border officers do?

Like I said before.... They will send you back because you dont have documentation to legally enter Canada
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steaky
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2012, 10:42:02 pm »

Why don't you just walk on foot or drive to the Canadian border and see what you get?
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 06:28:05 am »

Can't wait to hear how this turns out...
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