Genuine Marriage

[jeans22]

I was reading this from another post and it got me a little worried. Not because our marriage is not genuine but because we're gonna leave each other a few days after the marriage... (I know.. painful right??? )

A little background - I'm flying to go to the states to marry my fiancee. Our original plan was to apply for a TRV, get married in Canada and apply inland. But my TRV application was refused. So we're deciding to get married in the US so we can start the PR application immediately. The thing that got me a little worried is that my wife-to-be will go back to Canada and I'll return home to the Philippines a few days after our wedding. Will this cause a red flag???

Here's the statement from the other post that got me worried -

"You may not meet the requirements of section 4" which is :

"For the purpose of these regulations, no foreign national should be considered a spouse, a common law partner if the marriage is not genuine and was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act."

We're getting married because we love each other and so we can start the PR process immediately. We're quite confident that we've put together a very strong proof of genuine relationship so we're not worried about that. It's just that hopefully being apart immediately after a marriage will not cause any problems for us.

Looking forward to what you guys think.

[loon]

thatz true..it does raise a red flag..i received this kind of letter..mainly because my husband had to leave me only a week after we got married due to his work commitments in Canada..n they mentioned this in the letter...all u need to do is provide them every proof u have to prove ur relationship..n elaborate all your plans ..n do keep them updated..be truthful n explain every single detail properly..dont overlook anything..like i did so if ur file is strong enuff...u dont need to worry..all will be fine..all the best!

[minna]

well, you will still have to prove the relationship is genuine - meaning, your relationship up until the point you got married. If you can prove that, with emails/phone records/photos etc., then you should have no problem. CIC understands that not everyone can be together long term. And you are not applying common-law or conjugal partners, so as long as provide them with more proof of your relationship than just a marriage certificate, you should be ok.

think of it this way: all those people in that article - they were approved.

[loon]

thatz true..thats wat i did..i did send them loads of proofs...my husband has visited me 3 4 times during these 10 months...luckily i have numerous evidences to file against their statement..n tell them that my marriage is genuine..i m hoping it ll work..fingers crossed!!

[bestplace4u]

thats the same case with me my wife stayed with me for 4 to 5 days since she had to get back to her work she only had vacations of 10 days for our marriage i tried my best to send them enough proof but still now i am worried after checking your letter. 

[loon]

relax..i had another drawback also..as i mentioned only Nikkah was specified in my application..n we didnt update them regarding the ruksati..u r processing from isl rite...u must be aware how particular they r abt nikkah only or nikkah n ruksati..bla bla bla 

[jeans22]

Our proof is really strong, in our opinion.

- A real good scrapbook type of photo-story of our relationship which consist of over 100 sweet, cute and romantic pictures.
- tons of love letters and cards given to each other
- emails
- letters of support from family and friends
- a printout of skype calls made to each other almost everyday
- a very solid 4-page cover letter from my soon-to-be spouse and a romantic closing letter from me (soon-to-be husband)


And a whole lot more! It's just that I'm thinking, is it a huge red flag for the Immigration Officers when a couple gets married but doesn't stay with each other after the marriage? Or am I just thinking about this whole PR process WAY too much and am getting paranoid because of this?

Thank you very much for your insights...

[iarblue]

   Almost everyone on here had to go somewhere to marry right.Dont worry to much its not the fact you leave right after the wedding its all the proof you can apply to your application of leading up to the marriage.People work and only get a bit of time to do the things they need to do like visit, marry.They understand this,its what you provide to them before as proof.and i think your right on track jeans with yours.

[Leon]

As long as you have other good proof of your relationship, I don't think you have to worry.  You can even mention that you would have liked to be in Canada with your wife but you were denied a TRV.

[rjessome]

I agree with Leon.  And in your letters, be sure that you are both describing the development of your relationship.  Consider it as writing a biography of the relationship.  Be as detailed as possible.  How did you meet?  What interested you about your partner at the beginning?  Why did you continue talking/communicating?  What did you learn that endeared you to them?  Did you find you had things in common?  How did you feel?  When did your feelings start to grow?  When did you start to talk about taking your relationship to the next level, i.e. marriage?  How did you feel?  When did you tell your family about him/her?  What did they think?  How did you feel?  And then what happened?  Etc., etc.  You get the point.  Good luck.

[jeans22]

Thank you thank you thank you so much for calming my nerves... Your thoughts and insights are golden! Honestly this forum has been a HUGE help not just to me but I'm sure to a lot of people out there as well who's also going through this same process of immigration.

To rjessome, my fiancee has taken it upon herself to write our "relationship biography". It's about 5 pages long from beginning up to the very most recent event in our relationship, which will be the marriage. I, on the other hand, just did a very simple, heart-felt, one-paged closing letter stating my love for her and how much she really means to me. Do you think that's okay or I should also do a longer "relationship biography" type of letter? I'm just thinking that if I write this it'll be quite similar to my fiancee's letter.

Once again, thank you very much!! You guys are lifesavers!!!

[rjessome]

My opinion is that you should write your own biography.  Yes, there will be some similiarities with your fiance's but your perspective will be different.  You are not the same people so your writing style will also be different.  Your feelings will not be exactly the same and neither will the reaction of your families.  Maybe you told your mom first and she told her sister.  You get the idea.

I'll give you a personal example.  When I met my husband for the first time, I felt like he was a nice person but I wasn't interested.  He felt attraction right away and pursued me.  My feelings grew more slowly than his.  When I read his account of our relationship, it was eye opening to me and hilarious! (I have a bit of a twisted sense of humour).  He was frustrated and nervous about me while I was taking my good old time.  It all worked out in the end but you get the idea of how our stories were different but ended up in the same place.  We still laugh about this and he tries to make me feel guilty for rebuffing his advances in the beginning.  So do you see what I mean?

[jeans22]

My opinion is that you should write your own biography.  Yes, there will be some similiarities with your fiance's but your perspective will be different.  You are not the same people so your writing style will also be different.  Your feelings will not be exactly the same and neither will the reaction of your families.  Maybe you told your mom first and she told her sister.  You get the idea.

I'll give you a personal example.  When I met my husband for the first time, I felt like he was a nice person but I wasn't interested.  He felt attraction right away and pursued me.  My feelings grew more slowly than his.  When I read his account of our relationship, it was eye opening to me and hilarious! (I have a bit of a twisted sense of humour).  He was frustrated and nervous about me while I was taking my good old time.  It all worked out in the end but you get the idea of how our stories were different but ended up in the same place.  We still laugh about this and he tries to make me feel guilty for rebuffing his advances in the beginning.  So do you see what I mean?

I see... I'll start on my relationship biography right away!

As always, thank you very much!!!