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[srid_a]

They might come out with new NOC list on July 1st and there will be a single queue for each NOC with MI-1 applications in the front.
If your NOC is not on the list, your application may not even get processed. This can be good news for some (if your NOC is in the new list).

For example if NDVO has 10K applications (MI1 - MI3) now, and their quota is 8K, these 8k visas will be given to approved NOCs in MI - MI3 and MI4.  After processing the approved NOC applications, they might look at other applications.

If my NOC is not required, or not in the list, I have very less hope of getting the visa.

All - Please share your opinion.




 

Today, Minister Kenney announced two additional changes that will help transform Canada's immigration system. One proposed change would help CIC ensure FSW applicants meet current labour market needs. It would allow new rules set out in Ministerial Instructions to apply to people who have already submitted an application. For example, instructions could place a priority on a specific occupation, such as doctors, and have existing applications from doctors processed first, regardless of where they are in the queue.

A similar change would allow new regulations, once approved, to apply retrospectively to people who have already submitted an application. These changes would help ensure that immigrants are chosen based on Canada's current needs and priorities.

I can find two things from those two paragraphs;

a) unlike their recent system, they might give priority to those applicants who have applied in MI-1 then to MI-3, for example, if they need doctors they will see to the same applicants first to MI-1 then to MI-3.

b) I mean if they mean to issue visa based on recent job demand list, what does that 29 NOC list which they already declared as on demand list. I mean out of that 29, how can still they be choosy for further priority, unless they mean to reduce the NOC from this July. In other words, if they set NOC list from july, that should mean all of them NOCs are in demand and should be treated equally. Also I feel they might remove CAP system.

I dont know I am just guessing

God Bless,
Kavya

[canlove]

They might come out with new NOC list on July 1st and there will be a single queue for each NOC with MI-1 applications in the front.
If your NOC is not on the list, your application may not even get processed. This can be good news for some (if your NOC is in the new list).

For example if NDVO has 10K applications (MI1 - MI3) now, and their quota is 8K, these 8k visas will be given to approved NOCs in MI - MI3 and MI4.  After processing the approved NOC applications, they might look at other applications.

If my NOC is not required, or not in the list, I have very less hope of getting the visa.

All - Please share your opinion.

yes you interpreted it correctly, but dont you think in coming time a new backlog will build up for unwanted NOCs.
and nobody can say if MI-1 NOCs will be in new list.

[srid_a]

yes you interpreted it correctly, but dont you think in coming time a new backlog will build up for unwanted NOCs.
and nobody can say if MI-1 NOCs will be in new list.

Yes. Backlog of unwanted NOCs will build up and those applications can be returned or employers / provinces may be asked to choose from this pool. They can also continue till the end  before coming up with a new list.

We can only speculate on how they are going to do it but, the minister is stressing on taking only those NOCs that are in current list, and he doesn't seem to care about those that are not in the list. 

[kavya]

What about the one who has IP with date of MI-1 as well those who got letters from LVO and some who got CAIPS positive for next two months. I mean there is also some arrangement for them too. I guess

[ptv7425]

They might come out with new NOC list on July 1st and there will be a single queue for each NOC with MI-1 applications in the front.
If your NOC is not on the list, your application may not even get processed. This can be good news for some (if your NOC is in the new list).

For example if NDVO has 10K applications (MI1 - MI3) now, and their quota is 8K, these 8k visas will be given to approved NOCs in MI - MI3 and MI4.  After processing the approved NOC applications, they might look at other applications.

If my NOC is not required, or not in the list, I have very less hope of getting the visa.

All - Please share your opinion.




 

I think what they are trying to do is to give NOCs that are in demand the highest priority, irrespective of whether they are from MI-1, 2 3, 4 , 5 etc... (Currently this is not the case)

What happens to the NOCs that are not in the 2012 priority list is the big question, looks like they will introduce new points system and apply that retrospectively to all applications waiting to be processed. This may include changes to points awarded for age, IELTS etc...

That may explain why some MI-1s are still in RBVO, the ones that are in process may be the ones they feel will meet the required points even with the proposed changes. Purely a guess!

However, I doubt if these MI-1 applications will be at the front of the queue, more likely to take backseat in my opinion.
 

[pistachio]

Who knows if they will be considered or not? We have heard cases of medicals and re-medicals i.e. when the first MR expired, for pre-2008. Then they were slashed. If that could happen, then MI-1 applicants with IP+ date can also have similar fate, isn't it? People from January did not get MR!

We can wait till June/July. If there isn't any positive movement, I think that should be an indication of what is going to happen to us, down the line.

What about the one who has IP with date of MI-1 as well those who got letters from LVO and some who got CAIPS positive for next two months. I mean there is also some arrangement for them too. I guess

[kavya]

Who knows if they will be considered or not? We have heard cases of medicals and re-medicals i.e. when the first MR expired, for pre-2008. Then they were slashed. If that could happen, then MI-1 applicants with IP+ date can also have similar fate, isn't it? People from January did not get MR!

We can wait till June/July. If there isn't any positive movement, I think that should be an indication of what is going to happen to us, down the line.

Thats true. I think we are going to get some news from June.

[magar]

Ek Aur Zatka

Again in the uncertain queue

God help us

[canlove]

What about the one who has IP with date of MI-1 as well those who got letters from LVO and some who got CAIPS positive for next two months. I mean there is also some arrangement for them too. I guess

I think the applications which are IN process from MI-1 are equivalent to PER issued to MI-2&3 , they have seized out eligible to processing applications and refused the rest,  now they keep all MI-1,2 &3 applications in same queue and will process them according to In Demand NOCs and unwanted NOCs applicants will be on back seat. Just my assumption.

[kavya]

I think the applications which are IN process from MI-1 are equivalent to PER issued to MI-2&3 , they have seized out eligible to processing applications and refused the rest,  now they keep all MI-1,2 &3 applications in same queue and will process them according to In Demand NOCs and unwanted NOCs applicants will be on back seat. Just my assumption.

thats right. we all are assuming and can be either way possible....

[Nicky Royal]

Dear friends, How many years we have been waiting for a final decision? Can anybody say for sure when a final decision would come? Can we be sure that it would be a positive one? I think it's high time that we should raise our voice against this unfair immigration system. I have seen such an uncertain processing nowhere, I have never seen such a type of time consuming procedures in any type of applications, regardless how much valuable it is. Here everything is uncertain, how long do you guys let somebody play games with our life? It is human instinct to think that everything gonna happen fine tomorrow. But I have really lost faith in this never-ending wait. May be 20% or 30% of us would make it. Still there is the majority who are thrown to desperation. There are thousands of applicants even in this forum. Many outside. Why can't we shout against these mal practices? "UNITY IS STRENGTH". These are my heart felt thoughts, because I am very upset reading rejection news even after the wait of many most valuable years of a life time. Friends, are we chasing a dream that is not at all certain?, My humble prayers(the only thing that I can offer), Warm regards, Nicky?

[hiteshdand]

Dear friends, How many years we have been waiting for a final decision? Can anybody say for sure when a final decision would come? Can we be sure that it would be a positive one? I think it's high time that we should raise our voice against this unfair immigration system. I have seen such an uncertain processing nowhere, I have never seen such a type of time consuming procedures in any type of applications, regardless how much valuable it is. Here everything is uncertain, how long do you guys let somebody play games with our life? It is human instinct to think that everything gonna happen fine tomorrow. But I have really lost faith in this never-ending wait. May be 20% or 30% of us would make it. Still there is the majority who are thrown to desperation. There are thousands of applicants even in this forum. Many outside. Why can't we shout against these mal practices? "UNITY IS STRENGTH". These are my heart felt thoughts, because I am very upset reading rejection news even after the wait of many most valuable years of a life time. Friends, are we chasing a dream that is not at all certain?, My humble prayers(the only thing that I can offer), Warm regards, Nicky?

raising voice against them is useless. they did not force us to come to canada. we are desperate to migrate there.
we need CANADA and not vice versa.

[srid_a]

I did not understand why some people did not get In Process. They seem to be giving In Process to all the applicants (in Jan 2012). Suddenly it appeared selective and completely stopped now. May be they are following some selection criteria  like you said or due to the changes happening (backlog removal, and this new proposal in the wings)..

Thanks for the analysis (+1).

I think what they are trying to do is to give NOCs that are in demand the highest priority, irrespective of whether they are from MI-1, 2 3, 4 , 5 etc... (Currently this is not the case)

What happens to the NOCs that are not in the 2012 priority list is the big question, looks like they will introduce new points system and apply that retrospectively to all applications waiting to be processed. This may include changes to points awarded for age, IELTS etc...

That may explain why some MI-1s are still in RBVO, the ones that are in process may be the ones they feel will meet the required points even with the proposed changes. Purely a guess!

However, I doubt if these MI-1 applications will be at the front of the queue, more likely to take backseat in my opinion.
 

[grewal]

Dear friends, How many years we have been waiting for a final decision? Can anybody say for sure when a final decision would come? Can we be sure that it would be a positive one? I think it's high time that we should raise our voice against this unfair immigration system. I have seen such an uncertain processing nowhere, I have never seen such a type of time consuming procedures in any type of applications, regardless how much valuable it is. Here everything is uncertain, how long do you guys let somebody play games with our life? It is human instinct to think that everything gonna happen fine tomorrow. But I have really lost faith in this never-ending wait. May be 20% or 30% of us would make it. Still there is the majority who are thrown to desperation. There are thousands of applicants even in this forum. Many outside. Why can't we shout against these mal practices? "UNITY IS STRENGTH". These are my heart felt thoughts, because I am very upset reading rejection news even after the wait of many most valuable years of a life time. Friends, are we chasing a dream that is not at all certain?, My humble prayers(the only thing that I can offer), Warm regards, Nicky?

i agree with you.
CIC is playing with the people of developing countries. They have looted our money and Precious Time.
As the decisions are coming from canadian government itself, canadian courts cannot help us.
Raising voice in UN is the only option.
we should all try to find out methods to get our voices heard in the UN meeting.
I request all pre-june applicants to plz write and post articles to newspapers/journals/magazines/blogs/news-channels/social networking sites.

It's now our never.

I don't want to tell my children that their father waited for years, just to get a rejection from an unfair Government.
i believe neither you.... 
we are not mute spectators, we got duty to serve as a rational human being.
our dignity and prestige is on the line. we need to save it at all cost. 

[canlove]

I did not understand why some people did not get In Process. They seem to be giving In Process to all the applicants (in Jan 2012). Suddenly it appeared selective and completely stopped now. May be they are following some selection criteria  like you said or due to the changes happening (backlog removal, and this new proposal in the wings)..

Thanks for the analysis (+1).

wrong analysis by ptv.
they have rejected a lot of applicants in last 3 months.. then why wud they like to keep some applicants just RBVO while they can reject them can get rid off.
there might be some other reason like waiting for next instruction from CIC.  applicants are pending for IN process are all having 2nd AOR in dec, Jan and feb. so that could not be the reason.moreover they can not discriminate between applicants from same MI. and same NOCs