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Author Topic: Finally Visas Have Arrived. Now Can We Enter Separately?  (Read 1810 times)
STN19
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« on: February 23, 2010, 09:07:52 am »

After being deported from Canada in sept 2007 me and my family have finally recieved our visas and perm. res.
We are sooo excited to start our lives in Canada.

However I have a question. My daughter in studying in the U.S. quite close to the Canadian border and the rest of the family is in Europe.

Is she permitted to enter Canada separatly? and meet us there?

Because otherwise we will have to meet her somewhere in the U.S. to enter Canada together and to save finances, we would rather like to avoid that.

And when we enter is it better to enter via land at the U.S. / Canadian border or through Pearson International Airport?

All responses are greatly appreciated.
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matthewc
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Visa Office......: Inland (CPC-Vegreville)
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AOR Received.: 05.12.2006
VISA ISSUED...: 11.02.2008
LANDED..........: 31.03.2008

« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 10:39:15 am »

Yes, you can enter separately, and it makes no difference where (Canadian airport or overland from the US). Do whatever's easiest. If you arrive separately, the only restriction is that the principle applicant needs to land first.
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STN19
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 02:36:17 am »

any more takes on this issue?
just want to be completely sure.
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ambar
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File Transfer...: 03-03-2010
Med's Done....: 10-11-2010
Interview........: waived
Passport Req..: 21-09-2010
VISA ISSUED...: 28-09-2010
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 03:11:19 pm »

I agree with Matthew, it shouldn't be a problem to land separately and I don't think land versus Pearson
should matter at all.

Gluck to you!
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Good luck everyone, hoping and praying for you all Smiley
fozia1000
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 03:59:58 pm »

HI....I WANT TO ASK U...... HOW DID U GET VISA AFTER BEING DEPORTED FROM CANADA.....well even i was deported frm canada since my case got refused, i want to know how i can go back.

please help
thanks
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LOUIE_1981
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 06:58:41 pm »

HI first of all stn19  congrats on being accepted back to canada, thats a huge step right there, i am in the exact situation, we left canada, my wife was deported and we left in 2007, so can you show me what you did?  I know its the ARC application, but can you show me to see if there is anything different that maybe i have missed i havent sent it in yet but want to make sure I havent made any mistakes.


thanks and good luck Grin
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javcil
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Med's Done....: 11/12/2009
Interview........: 21/04/2010
Passport Req..: 21/04/2010
VISA ISSUED...: 22/04/2010
LANDED..........: 16/07/2010

« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 07:34:11 pm »

"If you and your sponsor meet all immigration requirements, the visa office will request you to submit passports and issue permanent resident visas to you and your family members accompanying you to Canada. You must then arrive in Canada either with or before your family members, and within the validity period of the visas."
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CDN sponsorship approved Feb. 04/10
PR application 'In Process' in Ankara since Feb. 24/10
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matthewc
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LANDED..........: 31.03.2008

« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 08:15:57 pm »

Actually having said what I did, I do remember reading that if a dependent arrives first, they wouldn't usually be turned away, rather CIC would allow them into Canada, and then grant PR status later, after the principle applicant arrives.

Still, it's definitely best if everyone arrives together, or the PA arrives first.
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matthewc
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VISA ISSUED...: 11.02.2008
LANDED..........: 31.03.2008

« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2010, 08:24:20 pm »

Ah yes, I found it. ENF 4, 12.14:

ENF 4 — Port of Entry Examinations

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12.14. Family members arriving before the principal applicant

Occasionally, a BSO at Immigration Secondary will encounter a family member who arrives
before the principal applicant and is seeking permanent residence. R51(b) requires a permanent
resident visa holder to establish that they and their family members, whether accompanying or
not, meet the requirements of the Act and Regulations. For a family member to meet these
requirements, it is usually incumbent on the principal applicant being admissible at the port of
entry. This also holds true for the principal applicant arriving before their family members.

A BSO encountering this situation should obtain the following information from the family member
or principal applicant:

  • why the family member or principal applicant is preceding the rest of the family (for example,
    to seek accommodation or employment, lack of a seat on the aircraft carrying the principal
    applicant, etc.);
  • when the rest of the family is due to arrive; and
  • the person's means of support.

The BSO should complete the verification process but should not grant permanent resident status
to the family member. If the person has a valid permanent resident visa and the BSO is satisfied
that the rest of the family intends to come to Canada, the BSO may wish to defer the examination
pursuant to A23 in order to obtain more information or wait until the rest of the family arrives so
they may be examined.


The BSO should enter the information into FOSS by means of an NCB, which indicates that the
granting of permanent residence has been deferred pending the arrival of the rest of the family.

If the BSO has reasonable grounds to believe that the rest of the family will not be coming to
Canada, the BSO should initiate enforcement action unless the person qualifies in their own right
for permanent resident status.

So, it's possible the dependent would be let in to Canada temporarily (deferred examination), but it would certainly be a hassle, and at the very least the dependent wouldn't be able to become a PR until after the PA arrives anyway.
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LOUIE_1981
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 08:58:31 pm »

Where can i get a authorization to return to canada (ARC) application??
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