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rjessome
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« on: November 03, 2011, 02:43:34 pm »

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111103/jason-kenney-skilled-workers-immigration-levels-111103/20111103/?hub=EdmontonHome

The Canadian Press
 
OTTAWA — Immigration Minister Jason Kenney is dribbling out more details about the mix of immigrants he wants to bring to Canada next year.

He says Ottawa plans to admit between 55,000 and 57,000 federal skilled workers, an increase from 2011's approximate target of 47,000.

The increase is in keeping with Kenney's push to speed up and increase the number of white-collar and skilled workers coming into Canada.

Earlier this week, the Immigration Department's annual report showed that overall immigration levels for next year will remain at about 255,000.

But since the numbers of skilled workers are on the rise, Kenney says it means fewer immigrants in other categories, especially live-in caregivers, spouses and dependent children.

Kenney says research by his department shows the federal skilled-worker program is successful at finding newcomers who adapt easily to Canadian life and quickly find jobs. A study last year found that 89 per cent had jobs or were self-employed within three years of arrival.

"The government's No. 1 priority remains the economy," Kenney said in a statement. "We recognize the importance of immigration to our labour market and we value the contributions of skilled immigrants who add to our international competitiveness.

"We are committed to facilitating the arrival of the best and the brightest to our country."

The Opposition NDP does not object to Kenney's emphasis on skilled workers, but believes the government should gradually raise the overall number of immigrants coming to Canada in order to better deal with expected worker shortages in a few years' time.
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 02:55:08 pm »

So what does this mean in terms of individual applications? Will they simply find more reasons to refuse applications, say, for writing in blue ink instead of black? Or will they simply let the excess cases wait longer until they can be processed?
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 02:55:43 pm »

Translation: The economy means more to us than the reunification of families. Sucks to be you guys and all, but we need to make some money!


Ugh. So glad my husband does not support the conservatives.
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2011, 02:56:19 pm »

Argh!
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2011, 03:03:34 pm »

If they want skilled workers in canada, why do they give negative LMOs to doctors?? ugh
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 03:16:30 pm »

definitely 1st choice for skilled worker is Australia... better opportunity, better weather,  easy processing, less hassle. it will be hard to get 57000 young and high skilled people per year. and if they r single then they will get the real taste of canada while sponsoring their spouses. no offense please.

I have a friend (a Canadian citizen) that got a job offer in Australia in late July. He accepted in early August. By early September he had his work visa and was on a flight. I've applied twice with two different job offers (well technically it was the potential employers applying) for work visas in Canada and had them both denied even though I'm a skilled worker with a masters degree and a PR application in process. I had a serious moment earlier in the fall when I asked my friend about jobs in Australia. I didn't put the hard sell on my husband, but the more photos I see on my friend's facebook page of his commute to work, etc. the more I want to try.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 03:24:02 pm »

I have a friend (a Canadian citizen) that got a job offer in Australia in late July. He accepted in early August. By early September he had his work visa and was on a flight. I've applied twice with two different job offers (well technically it was the potential employers applying) for work visas in Canada and had them both denied even though I'm a skilled worker with a masters degree and a PR application in process. I had a serious moment earlier in the fall when I asked my friend about jobs in Australia. I didn't put the hard sell on my husband, but the more photos I see on my friend's facebook page of his commute to work, etc. the more I want to try.
Canadian immigration system is damn slow and damn complicated. even Denmark is far better than Canada for high skilled young people like you. good luck
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 03:25:10 pm »

So, just because I'm a sponsored spouse, my qualifications to work aren't counted as a contribution to the economy at all?  And therefore, I'm surplus to requirements?  So, instead you'll approve more skilled workers who will bring their unqualified spouses and children instead?  I'm sorry, Mr. Kenney, as an accountant I don't get the net benefit from your calculations.  As a sponsored spouse, I'm just ticked off at being treated like a red-headed stepchild.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 03:30:24 pm »

So, just because I'm a sponsored spouse, my qualifications to work aren't counted as a contribution to the economy at all?  And therefore, I'm surplus to requirements?  So, instead you'll approve more skilled workers who will bring their unqualified spouses and children instead?  I'm sorry, Mr. Kenney, as an accountant I don't get the net benefit from your calculations.  As a sponsored spouse, I'm just ticked off at being treated like a red-headed stepchild.
well said, this is their nature of the game, we are unwanted.  Grin


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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 03:32:38 pm »

I don't think it is a good idea. I've met plenty of people who got in as skilled workers who are very annoyed because they can't find skilled work. Yes, they may have jobs, but as a taxi driver or some such.
And I'm sure most sponsored spouses will also be able to find work. Plus to delay the reunion of families is unfair and IMO immoral.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 03:34:59 pm »

it will be hard to get 57000 young and high skilled people per year.

Seriously?  Do you know how many people want to come here as skilled workers???  It's in the millions.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 03:39:47 pm »

Seriously?  Do you know how many people want to come here as skilled workers???  It's in the millions.
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 03:41:03 pm »

Get your Canadian spouses to write to their MPs and complain about this.  The Minister sent out a survey regarding immigration numbers for Canada.  Someone named louisa was posting about it non-stop.  His decision to decrease the numbers was probably based on the responses.  So the resulting decrease in numbers for spouses and dependent children is probably because that's what Canadians and permanent residents told him they wanted to decrease this category and increase skilled workers.  So get your spouses to give him a different message.  Complaining on this forum won't create action.  The government needs to hear from people.  That's the only way to make things change.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 03:47:16 pm »

Check out these Buffalo applicants. I think they are getting PPR faster than the spousal class:

canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/medical-results-have-been-recived-and-after-how-many-days-you-got-ppr-guys-t85234.240.html

There have been lots of PPR with them lately.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 08:34:22 am »

It is unethical to keep families separated.  They likely will reject applications from those who don't plan to take up residency in Canada immediately once the visa is issued.  Those are the easiest to reject, because if the family is together living and working abroad they won't be suffering from separation.
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