few questions about job in construction

[Iwent2Canada]

Hi there
I'm a qualified Ironworker (noc 7264) and would love to come to Canada to work and travel (for 1 year or so).
My occupation is "under pressure" and in demand" in BC and Alberta, and thats where I want to go anyway.
But -
1. How do I get the job? Yes I checked all them job pages workopolis, jobincanada, etc. There ARE alot of jobs for ironworkers (some got 10 vacancies, some 15), So what do I do? just e-mail my CV to them and if they happy, they do the rest paperwork? Or do I have to do something else.
2. Once I got the offer how long does it take to get permit?
3. Do I have to go to Embassey for interview or smth?
Thank you

[BCguy]

Actually thats wrong for a PNP nomination.First get employment whether directly or through an agency,then apply for nomination under our different PNP,then after nomination go to CIC.A embassy cannot nominate you

[Iwent2Canada]

Sorry if I sound a bit dumb, but please, help me.
How do I "get an employment"? I send to agency (or company directly) my CV and they write me back "oh, you great, come, work for as". And what next? I call/write embassy? Or I start filling up some forms?
I understand that it's very basic, but I've been reading and reading oficial information but there isn't any simple step-by-step guide
So let's say I got an offer from agency. what's next?


thanks for help

[Leon]

1. How do I get the job? Yes I checked all them job pages workopolis, jobincanada, etc. There ARE alot of jobs for ironworkers (some got 10 vacancies, some 15), So what do I do? just e-mail my CV to them and if they happy, they do the rest paperwork? Or do I have to do something else.
2. Once I got the offer how long does it take to get permit?
3. Do I have to go to Embassey for interview or smth?

1. Send your CV, most companies advertising that many positions should be used to hiring foreign workers so they will either be used to filling out papers or they will have an agency doing it for them.  They will take care of most of the paperwork and tell you what you have to do.

2. I don't know right now, if it's a big company, they might already have a labour market opinon so getting the work permit might take under a month.  If they don't have a labour market opinion, it would be longer but I think for sure within 6 months.

3. If the embassy wants to you interview, then yes, you will have to interview.

[tauruscol]

As Leon said,

send your cv to as many companies as possible. I suggest looking in the following governmente website:

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/

The employer will get an LMO (Labor Market Opinion), which he will send to you along with a work contract. You apply with this at the embassy and they will most likely call you in for an interview. they also assess your language skills. The embassy makes the decision.

You may send your resumes to agencies but remember that it's illegal for them to collect money from you. so, don't pay them a dime.

God bless you!

[migwelder]

As Leon said,

send your cv to as many companies as possible. I suggest looking in the following governmente website:

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/

The employer will get an LMO (Labor Market Opinion), which he will send to you along with a work contract. You apply with this at the embassy and they will most likely call you in for an interview. they also assess your language skills. The embassy makes the decision.

You may send your resumes to agencies but remember that it's illegal for them to collect money from you. so, don't pay them a dime.

God bless you!

Yes don't pay a dime and that's the law in Canada, too bad here in the Philippines, agencies ask you for so called "processing fees" that amounts to 1-month of your salary.

[BCguy]

Thats Why people leave the Philippines for Canada,They cant believe that civil servants like me will help them for free without asking them for anything and that our cops dont ask for bribes because Vancouver Police earn 60-80$K a year,Our Bus drivers are polite because they get paid 50$K a year.Our politicians drive their own cars,carry their own luggage without armies of bodyguards

[BCguy]

It is illegal to ask for placement fees please report that agency that does so and I will make sure that authorities here are aware of them so that we can reprimand their Canadian Counterpart

[migwelder]

Thats Why people leave the Philippines for Canada,They cant believe that civil servants like me will help them for free without asking them for anything and that our cops dont ask for bribes because Vancouver Police earn 60-80$K a year,Our Bus drivers are polite because they get paid 50$K a year.Our politicians drive their own cars,carry their own luggage without armies of bodyguards

You're right and very well said. I hope I'll be in Canada next year.

[tauruscol]

BCguy, does the Alberta government have someone like you here? your counterpart in Alberta?

[migwelder]

Thats Why people leave the Philippines for Canada,They cant believe that civil servants like me will help them for free without asking them for anything and that our cops dont ask for bribes because Vancouver Police earn 60-80$K a year, Our Bus drivers are polite because they get paid 50$K a year. Our politicians drive their own cars,carry their own luggage without armies of bodyguards

Here's another reason why I want to get out of the Philippines

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/130814/Overtaking-bus-slams-into-car-in-Pampanga-5-dead-56-hurt

[eduardoF]

Thats Why people leave the Philippines for Canada,They cant believe that civil servants like me will help them for free without asking them for anything and that our cops dont ask for bribes because Vancouver Police earn 60-80$K a year,Our Bus drivers are polite because they get paid 50$K a year.Our politicians drive their own cars,carry their own luggage without armies of bodyguards

BCGuy, since you work for the govermnent, I was wondering if you'd have access to research on immigration - in particular the experience of immigrants.

I say this because I was reading your message and thinking that it may explain why a number of immigrants get frustrated in canada. In my country, if someone gets a job that corresponds to my level of education (basically, if he/she become a full-time professor at a university), this person should be able to make at least ten times as much as a bus driver.

Now, say this person moves to Canada - land of opportunities - only to realize that if he's very very good, he may be able to make as much as 3 times as a bus driver. It could be rather frustrating. Of course this is a problem that affects only highly educated people (and that's the people you see complaining - the engineers driving cabs, the medical doctors flipping burgers...). I wonder if that would be an explanation. Have you got any insights on that?

[Leon]

I've got insights on that.  Why do you care how much the bus driver makes?  He has to make a living too and $50,000 is not that much if you have a family.  The question for you should be how much can you make in Canada and are you happy with the lifestyle you can lead on your salary and is it better than the lifestyle you can have in old country.

[eduardoF]

I've got insights on that.  Why do you care how much the bus driver makes?  He has to make a living too and $50,000 is not that much if you have a family.  The question for you should be how much can you make in Canada and are you happy with the lifestyle you can lead on your salary and is it better than the lifestyle you can have in old country.

Leon, people do care - specially in stratified societies in which income and/or education "determine" social status. I'm not saying everyone cares, or that they should, or should not care. I am merely pointing out that people have expectations, and they may be very frustrated to have them shattered by the reality of a new country. It may come as a shock to a Canadian (or to anyone in a developed country) that people think in these terms, but for many, making just twice as much as a "mere" bus driver is almost offensive.

Now, I am not suggesting that these are my views or anything. I'm a sociologist and I tend to be interested in how people behave in society, that's all :-)

[BCguy]

BCguy, does the Alberta government have someone like you here? your counterpart in Alberta?

None that I know of personally Sorry

[BCguy]

Thats Why people leave the Philippines for Canada,They cant believe that civil servants like me will help them for free without asking them for anything and that our cops dont ask for bribes because Vancouver Police earn 60-80$K a year,Our Bus drivers are polite because they get paid 50$K a year.Our politicians drive their own cars,carry their own luggage without armies of bodyguards

BCGuy, since you work for the govermnent, I was wondering if you'd have access to research on immigration - in particular the experience of immigrants.

I say this because I was reading your message and thinking that it may explain why a number of immigrants get frustrated in canada. In my country, if someone gets a job that corresponds to my level of education (basically, if he/she become a full-time professor at a university), this person should be able to make at least ten times as much as a bus driver.

Now, say this person moves to Canada - land of opportunities - only to realize that if he's very very good, he may be able to make as much as 3 times as a bus driver. It could be rather frustrating. Of course this is a problem that affects only highly educated people (and that's the people you see complaining - the engineers driving cabs, the medical doctors flipping burgers...). I wonder if that would be an explanation. Have you got any insights on that?

Actually thats beauty of Canada,The salary gap between educated and uneducated people is small,There is dignity of Labour.For example My friend is a Financial Lead at Accenture with a Budget of 45 Million Dollars He is in Charge,He earns 75K$ a year,I know a veteran Bus Driver with 14 years experience earning 80K$,There is no salary gap,I know a Linesman who earns 50$ an hour in Alberta compared to a Professor earning 40$ an hour,People dont get that,There is nothing wrong with Educated and Skilled Labour earning the same

[BCguy]

I've got insights on that.  Why do you care how much the bus driver makes?  He has to make a living too and $50,000 is not that much if you have a family.  The question for you should be how much can you make in Canada and are you happy with the lifestyle you can lead on your salary and is it better than the lifestyle you can have in old country.

Leon, people do care - specially in stratified societies in which income and/or education "determine" social status. I'm not saying everyone cares, or that they should, or should not care. I am merely pointing out that people have expectations, and they may be very frustrated to have them shattered by the reality of a new country. It may come as a shock to a Canadian (or to anyone in a developed country) that people think in these terms, but for many, making just twice as much as a "mere" bus driver is almost offensive.

Now, I am not suggesting that these are my views or anything. I'm a sociologist and I tend to be interested in how people behave in society, that's all :-)

I really dont see whats wrong with a Bus Driver earning well,I earn less then a Senior Bus Driver,My friend with a Masters degree is earning less then a Carpenter,He is earning 20$ an hour compared to a 24$ a hour Carpenter.We dont have a stratified Society,We have an Egalatarian society

[cchabert]

I don't see either any problem with the bus driver, the problem is the people who came to US or Canada with big careers and education and they want to find big jobs with 6 numbers figures in every corner, they coming with the "Status Syndrome", "who? me? flipping the burgers? No way!" and they don;t want to humble and realize they are in another complete different country, and also they don;t want to compare how they are living in US or Canada with their own country, also if you are flipping the burgers, also you can drive a cab, or take pictures for the tourist, etc. opportunities are endless, you need to stop complaining and start looking for something that really makes you feel good, and this is not necessary your career.

[migwelder]

I don't see either any problem with the bus driver, the problem is the people who came to US or Canada with big careers and education and they want to find big jobs with 6 numbers figures in every corner, they coming with the "Status Syndrome", "who? me? flipping the burgers? No way!" and they don;t want to humble and realize they are in another complete different country, and also they don;t want to compare how they are living in US or Canada with their own country, also if you are flipping the burgers, also you can drive a cab, or take pictures for the tourist, etc. opportunities are endless, you need to stop complaining and start looking for something that really makes you feel good, and this is not necessary your career.

Try to be humble, because here in the Philippines, when you're in school and when asked "What's your father's job" then you say "He's ONLY a jeepney driver" people will laugh of you. Well I want my little kids to grow up in a civilised society like Canada.

[BCguy]

But would they still be laughing if the Bus Driver was earning more then the BanK Branch Manager or If the Plumber earned more then the Accountant,That is the beauty of Canada compared to the Philippines,In fact I wish I had the Salary of a  Senior Bus Driver.

[gr8tpretender]

Try to be humble, because here in the Philippines, when you're in school and when asked "What's your father's job" then you say "He's ONLY a jeepney driver" people will laugh of you. Well I want my little kids to grow up in a civilised society like Canada.

hey bro! tatay ko is a jeepney driver but i am proud of him.... my tatay's first jeep was 3 seater jeep, then it became 5 seater jeep and then 8 seater jeep... he left manila when we have a 12 seater jeep because he was petitioned by my brother in the US now he is a USC.... my tatay was became a good example of our barangay(community), my classmates from elementary to college knows my tatay was a jeepney driver they never laugh at me. i have a classmates where their dad are doctors, lawyers, engineers and even politicians....

cheers!!!

[migwelder]

Try to be humble, because here in the Philippines, when you're in school and when asked "What's your father's job" then you say "He's ONLY a jeepney driver" people will laugh of you. Well I want my little kids to grow up in a civilised society like Canada.

hey bro! tatay ko is a jeepney driver but i am proud of him.... my tatay's first jeep was 3 seater jeep, then it became 5 seater jeep and then 8 seater jeep... he left manila when we have a 12 seater jeep because he was petitioned by my brother in the US now he is a USC.... my tatay was became a good example of our barangay(community), my classmates from elementary to college knows my tatay was a jeepney driver they never laugh at me. i have a classmates where their dad are doctors, lawyers, engineers and even politicians....

cheers!!!

From what school and neighborhood did you come from? How old are you now?

[gr8tpretender]

From what school and neighborhood did you come from? How old are you now?

i grew up and educated in the public school system in the city of manila..... i worked as a cigarette vendor, market porter and news paper boy when i was in elementary.