Father is being detained and we're being deported!

[Mel2904]

Actually what I said was illegals...as in illegal aliens.  Giving them the title immigrant would portray them with a certain sense of legality that they do NOT deserve.  And in fact would be an insult and demeaning to many immigrants who came here legally, the proper way, and without breaking any laws.  What about their perspective eh?

what about their perspective? You're the only one *censored word*ing here about how you should be more praised and respected then someone illegal, when the reality is that you probably had much much better chances and oportunities (education) back home in your country for succesfully applying and obtaining the citizenship opposed to some illegals who didn't have that chance at all. Sometimes you can't just "create" those chances no matter how hard you try.

What causes it?  How about this?  The main cause of illegal aliens is people who do not follow the 10th commandment, "thou shall not covet".  Since they are all guilty of wanting their neighbors wealth and prosperity and take action on it by sneaking into their neighbors country to get a piece of that wealth for themselves.

Did it ever cross your mind they don't want to "covet" but rather have to? And do they really literally take food from your or your child's mouth at the end of the day? Don't think so. If it got out of hand like that then guvernment would already take more serious approach to this whole issue and get rid of them, don't you think Mr. "blowing it out of proportions"?

Here's another one for you I bet you didn't know: Live and let live!

[links18]

The Canadian immigration system is going to take some hits over the recent court decision that declared the guy (an immigrant) who beheaded someone on the Greyhound bus in Manitoba last summer not criminally responsible. The family of the victim is raising questions about the immigration system in the media. Just be glad you are not in the US, where an openly anti-immigrant demagogue hosts a nightly television "news" show and spares no opportunity to insinuate the country is being invaded. Of course, that show is also available in Canada on most major cable and satellite providers.

Of course he's not criminally responsible.  The guy was a normal average joe doing a normal average job and all of a sudden he flips and boards a bus and chops somebody's head off.  Obviously he had some kind of psychotic break.

The immigration system has really nothing to do with it unless he was known in his homeland previously for hacking ppl's heads off and CIC missed it and let him immigrate.  Nobody knows beforehand who will get a psychotic break and do something crazy.  There might be some warning signs shortly before it happens but not years before.  It's just as likely that it might happen to a Canadian as an immigrant.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, the victim's family does not see it that way and have been criticizing CIC for letting the guy in. I am actually surprised that the news story seems to have mostly died out now. That probably wouldn't have happened in the US, where it would have been on Lou Dobbs for weeks.

[frolic]

what about their perspective? You're the only one *censored word*ing here about how you should be more praised and respected then someone illegal, when the reality is that you probably had much much better chances and oportunities (education) back home in your country for succesfully applying and obtaining the citizenship opposed to some illegals who didn't have that chance at all. Sometimes you can't just "create" those chances no matter how hard you try.

Sure I did not create all my chances myself.  Some of them were earned by my father or grandfather along the way of my families history.  And you know what...they did it all without breaking a law to do it.  Seems you have no respect for the laws and no respect for those around you who do things properly all due to sympathy for someones plight. 

So in your eyes it is ok to break these laws and rationalize it because of some justification.  Maybe that bank robber needed the money for his starving child at home?

I could tell them the same...live and let live...as in live your life and don't break the laws of my life. 

[Mel2904]

...they did it all without breaking a law to do it. 

  You don't know that.

Maybe that bank robber needed the money for his starving child at home?

With no other options, perfectly good justification. Most people would. I would. You wouldn't. That's what makes us different.

..live your life and don't break the laws of my life. 

Finally we agree on something.
Over & Out!

[frolic]

You don't know that.

Since they have paperwork and landing papers yes I DO know they didn't break the laws we are discussing.

With no other options, perfectly good justification. Most people would. I would. You wouldn't. That's what makes us different.

There is no such thing as NO other options.  Turning to a life of crime to fix a problem is just replacing one problem with another.  Just goes to show your lack of judgment and poor moral compass. 

[Mel2904]

Yes Sir, all i need is a lession on morality from you. *censored word* off.

[frolic]

Ahhh poor Mel. 

Shame I couldn't find someone who can actually think and debate.

[rascojenkins]

Please Please please This Forum is to help people Trying to immigrate, people with immigration issues looking for answers etc. If you do not know the answer to someone's questions kindly do not reply to their post and keep your thoughts to yourself. You do not know why and how people find themselves in their situations.Nobody but God is perfect.One small mistake might cause somebody a great deal of their life.So if you can't help someone Peace out.

To those with issues Please Trust God not humans.

[frolic]

Yes exactly...people trying to immigrate.  Not people trying to sneak across the border or overstay their visa or get into fake marriages just to get into the country. 

[Flori]

You are nothing but a sad, frustated, repressed individual frolic.

[frolic]

I am speaking out for the law abiding immigrants who do not break ANY laws to come to Canada.  People like my wife, my father, my grandmother.  Justifying "breaking the law" because they covet their neighbors wealth is just dumb rationalization and bleeding heart liberalism. 

[monteiromarcosb]

It's sad but true...