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[shahyan]

Dear Members

I am going to apply next week for immigration to canada, Will you help me for calculate my points .


Education    12 + 2+ 3  (Inter+Bachelor+ 3 years MBA Degree) total 17 Yeras
Age             40 years
Marital Status   Married  having 2 kids
English       
Listening         Moderate
Speaking         Moderate
Reading          High
Writing           High

Profession       IT Manager   (NOC 0213)
Spouse Education    12 Years full time education

Work experience   More than 20 years (5 Yeras As IT Manager)

Pls guide me how much points I can obtain as per above information

[walterg74]

Can anyone advise or point me to a good link to know if my university degree is considered a "bachelor Degree" or a "Masters Degree" for CIC ?  (I've been told both...)

Background:

1 - Prior Studies include elementary school (7 years) and High School (5 years), so 12 years in total.
2 - The degree is from a University, and the title is "Information Systems Engineer".
3 - This, after finishing the 12 years of school shown in point 1, demand 5 years to obtain, so
     the total comes up to 17 years.

Thanks!

[Maaties]

Where did you do your degree.

I think it would be considered an undergraduate degree because a medical doctor degree which takes 6 years is considered a bachelors degree.

However, if you want to do phd in engineering, you'd probably get entrance without a masters (to universities in Canada) but unfortunately CIC doesn't consider this.

[walterg74]

At the "Universidad Tecnologica Nacional"  (National University of Technology) in Buenos Aires.  It is the best one for engineering in the country, and from other ppl. I know who got the same degree, yes, like you mentioned, the PhD comes next, no other degrees/titles in the middle.

I'm not quite sure how a doctor's degree is there, but here it also takes 6 years but after that, you still have to specialize in something... medicine's a bit different it seems..

[Maaties]

read the last paragraph of page 19
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

[walterg74]

Right, I saw that. But my doubt is because my profession is not clearly defined between a bachelor or a masters...

Between these:

1) A university educational credential of two years or more at the bachelor's level,
and at least 14 years of completed full-time or full-time equivalent studies
20
2) Three year post-secondary educational credential, other than a university
educational credential, and at least 15 years of completed full-time or full-time
equivalent studies
22
3)Two or more university educational credentials at the bachelor's level and at
least 15 years of completed full-time or full-time equivalent studies
22
4)University educational credential at the master's or doctoral level and at least 17
years of completed full-time or full-time equivalent studies
25

I discard 2 because it says "other than a university", and number 3 as well because it says "TWO" credentials.

But between 1 and 4... number one would be suitable if you consider it to be a 3 year degree plus the 14 years education, but it's not the case... as this is 5 years, plus 12.

Regarding number 4, it doesn't state any duration at all for the credential, only that you have the credential and 17 years of study, which would match my case too.

However, as we don't have the naming as "bachelor" or "master" here, I don't know which it would be... 5 points can make a difference...

[Maaties]

You are correct, it could be 1 or 4.

A bachelors is a first degree and it says AT LEAST 14 years of education. So this line would also be suitable for people who get 6 years of undergraduate degree and say even 18 years of education like doctors from India, Pakistan, UK, etc.

So if yours is a first degree, then they will probably give only 20 points, even though you studied for 17 years.

However, i did hear about an accountant who sent in a letter saying that their accounting credential is equivalent to a masters degree. So perhaps you could try something like that.

Do you need the 5 points?

[newcomer]

Hi rupeshhari plz answer to my question,
I need some help from seniors regarding filling SCHEDULE 1 BACKGROUND DECLARATION FORM.(IMM0008-1)
The end portion of the form ,page 4 of 4 says,"DO NOT COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING SECTION NOW.YOU MAY BE ASKED TO SIGN IN THE PRESENCE OF A REPRESENTATIVE OF A CANADIAN GOVERNMENT OR AN OFFICIAL APPOINTED BY CANADIAN GOVERNMENT"

Plz advise should I leave this part blank and what does it mean  ?
Does it mean that i would ve to sign it at the time of interview but not every  applicant  gets an interview?
Kindly explain.
thanks n regards

[walterg74]

I *think* I don't need the 5 points, but just in case, you never know...

[Maaties]

yes dont sign it.

[kisunja]

Hi guys,
I think my question "for singles" deserves  a place in FAQ

IMM008 Generic. Page 2 - Family members.
If I do not have any husband, common-law partner or children, do I have to list my parents and siblings in there? they are not in the guide, but they are the only family I have now:)?
Or should I just fill the page with "N/A"?
Thanks!

[walterg74]

From what I know, you HAVE to put the information of your parents and siblings in the relevant sections.  It doesn't matter if you're single, since this form has to be filled out by all the applicants (if you did have a husband for example and he went with you, both of you would have to fill this form -2 forms.-)

[newcomer]

Hi rupesh thanks very much.I ve some more questions for u.I understand tht I ve to send 4 forms
IMM0008(generic)
IMM0008-1(Background declaration)
IMM0008-3(Economic Classes)
IMM5406(add. family info)

Plz tell me that only 1 form (IMM0008-1,Background Declaration) should be filled by both the principal applicant n the spouse (as no dependent s of age 18)
and rest of the 3 forms to be filled by the Principal applicant alone.Plz correct me if I m wrong.
Secondly should I paste the photographs on the space provided or just send them in another envelope.

thanks n regards

[walterg74]

newcomer:

In the guide for federal skilled worker class, it clearly states:

Additional family information (IMM 5406)
This form must be completed by:
•You, as the principal applicant,
•Your spouse or common-law partner (whether accompanying you to Canada or not), and
•Your dependent children aged 18 or over (whether accompanying you to Canada or not).

So of the 4 forms you mention, only 2 are meant to be filled out only by the principal applicant.  The rest by all members...

You can find this guide here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/EG7.pdf

(accessed from here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp )

Regards.

[kisunja]

From what I know, you HAVE to put the information of your parents and siblings in the relevant sections.  It doesn't matter if you're single, since this form has to be filled out by all the applicants (if you did have a husband for example and he went with you, both of you would have to fill this form -2 forms.-)

That's exactly my question: is "family members"on IMM008 generic actually a relevant section for parents/siblings or not?
the guide does NOT require to fill in the info about parents/siblings in this particular section - only "spouses, common-laws and children". so if I do not have them, is it ok if I put "N/A"?
Or should I still give the info about parents and siblings, because they still are my family ?
I could still write about them just in case, but I do not want to make a mistake...