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« on: April 10, 2011, 08:07:35 am » |
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Experts,
I found out, some peoples applied for canada immigration by submitting either fake qualifications or experiences certificates.
And they were granted the Canada Immigration and today are in Canada enjoying their lives. And where the candidates with original qualifications are still suffering.
How this is happening, what is the use of background check by CIC and what are the parameters they are following?
Please help me to understand this.
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Mary2009
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2011, 08:13:48 am » |
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Make no mistake about it...
What you've mentioned could be happening...
But when they catch those guilty "citizens" they get punished beyond your believe (including deporting them after a jail sentence).
Additionally... the Canadian society, is KNOWN for reporting those who are doing anything illegal...
This is not a bad thing... as this ensures that everybody is playing fair.
For example, it is VERY common that people report you if you sell any product/service without an invoice or documentation...etc.. or if you insist on accepting cash only (again without a receipt)
As these are all "symptoms" of tax avoidance.
As for background check... No system will ever screen 100% of the documents they have... otherwise, EACH case might take 3 to 4 years to be inspected.
My $0.02
Mary
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2011, 08:17:17 am » |
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Experts,
I found out, some peoples applied for canada immigration by submitting either fake qualifications or experiences certificates.
And they were granted the Canada Immigration and today are in Canada enjoying their lives. And where the candidates with original qualifications are still suffering.
How this is happening, what is the use of background check by CIC and what are the parameters they are following?
Please help me to understand this.
Lolz. Who you know applied through fake docs and now in Canada and enjoying?? Canadian authorities do vigorous checks and is one of the toughest immigrations in the world. Its very hard to fool them. Who told you those who have original docs are suffering?? If some has legitimate documents they always go through and no problems for them but those with fake docs can get caught at any time. Be confident in yourself that honesty is the best policy and only the genuine people are getting the right reward. Thanks
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Today I caught myself smiling for no reason... then I realized I was thinking about you :-) If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's yours If it does not come back, it was never meant to be :-)
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2011, 08:27:33 am » |
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Experts,
I found out, some peoples applied for canada immigration by submitting either fake qualifications or experiences certificates.
And they were granted the Canada Immigration and today are in Canada enjoying their lives. And where the candidates with original qualifications are still suffering.
How this is happening, what is the use of background check by CIC and what are the parameters they are following?
Please help me to understand this.
Dear Scanner, The people with such conducts may succeed in the beginging phase but they will indeed suffer a lot in the long run. We can not fight with Nature but the truth must prevails. Nectar
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2011, 08:27:55 am » |
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My $0.02
Mary
Why its only $0.02 only. Why not 0.01 or 0? 
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Today I caught myself smiling for no reason... then I realized I was thinking about you :-) If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's yours If it does not come back, it was never meant to be :-)
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2011, 08:29:01 am » |
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Dear Scanner,
The people with such conducts may succeed in the beginging phase but they will indeed suffer a lot in the long run.
We can not fight with Nature and the truth must prevails.
Nectar
How about you Nectar? Are you providing the truthful information here?? Till yet you haven't declared your source??
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Today I caught myself smiling for no reason... then I realized I was thinking about you :-) If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's yours If it does not come back, it was never meant to be :-)
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2011, 09:26:53 am » |
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It's their luck and luck matters....
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2011, 10:15:06 am » |
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It's their luck and luck matters....
very well said
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canadaforall
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2011, 10:23:18 am » |
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It's their luck and luck matters....
I agree with you luck matters. Those who applied after June 2010 are already getting visas while those of us who applied before them are still waiting. So for sure luck also counts in everything.
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January 30th 2009 : Application Filed february 12th 2009 : June 30th 2009 : Documents sent to Visa Office february 23rd 2012 : In process with received by Visa Office in the inside details. address also disappeare 27th March medicals, pcc,
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2011, 11:11:28 am » |
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No system can detect the fake docs especially the ones related to professional career. Even the genuine documents provided by some applicants are almost impossible to verify due to delays associated with CHC immigration processing. I provided the reference letter signed by my ex boss. I gave his contact details and visiting card of April 2010 but now he is not there. In fact the whole team has moved including the HR manager. Now CHC cannot verify the reference letter without sending its record number to the new HR manager or sending a scanned copy by e mail or fax for verification. If they try the phone verification and wrong person picks the phone then he will straight away refuse my existence in that company. But as long as the document is not fake there is no need to worry and very less chances of verification. For this reason CHC have to change their system. Docs should be verified immediately after receiving and applicant should be informed of Provisional acceptance. They can give the VISA whenever they want. Regards Salman
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Application Dat: 4 Nov 2009 AOR: 1 Jan 2010 NOC: 0911-9216-4131 Documents Sent: 04th, May, 2010 Ecas status "IP with RBVO details" 2nd AOR received 18th Aug 2010 Salman Ahmad
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2011, 01:06:50 pm » |
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Make no mistake about it...
What you've mentioned could be happening...
But when they catch those guilty "citizens" they get punished beyond your believe (including deporting them after a jail sentence).
Additionally... the Canadian society, is KNOWN for reporting those who are doing anything illegal...
This is not a bad thing... as this ensures that everybody is playing fair.
For example, it is VERY common that people report you if you sell any product/service without an invoice or documentation...etc.. or if you insist on accepting cash only (again without a receipt)
As these are all "symptoms" of tax avoidance.
As for background check... No system will ever screen 100% of the documents they have... otherwise, EACH case might take 3 to 4 years to be inspected.
My $0.02
Mary
Well, whatever, wherever and however, you always have "bad eggs" in every society, community, office etc etc. I don't doubt the fact that it may be happening and there may be insiders involved too. However, unless proven guilty you are always deemed innocent (so they say). It is absolutely gutting to know that such things may be happening,while people like me and others who know beyond doubts that they fulfill all requirements with genuine papers are left sitting for years. Is it not who you know rather that what you know that reigns nowadays?
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2011, 01:50:11 am » |
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Well Thanks experts for your inputs.
By the way have any one here heard that someone caught using the fake docs either professional or educational and was jailed, fined and deported in Canada?
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2011, 12:07:34 pm » |
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Well Thanks experts for your inputs.
By the way have any one here heard that someone caught using the fake docs either professional or educational and was jailed, fined and deported in Canada?
Oh, I hope you are not planning .......................................................!!!
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2011, 12:11:45 pm » |
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the most rejection is FAKE documents (mostly Experience and educational documents). the ratio is high only from Asian countries. dont create any FAKE docs you will sure get rejected and banned once CIC or CHC catch your fake documents.
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 12:14:38 pm » |
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Oh, I hope you are not planning .......................................................!!!
Lolz  . To be honest I thought of the same but I preferred to keep quiet. You used a clever way, the way you started to get your answer.
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Today I caught myself smiling for no reason... then I realized I was thinking about you :-) If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it's yours If it does not come back, it was never meant to be :-)
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