engaged = conjugal ??

[pelipeli]

im confused, ive read something that confused me: here's the thing, i bcame a PR as a dependent of my father, I was below 22 at the time the application was submitted in 2004. we got our visas in 2010 and landed in january 2011. hubby and i met in 2006, got engaged in 2009 and married in june 2011.

was getting engaged before we got our visas and landing affect my sponsorship of hubby now? getting engaged in 2009 doesnt necessarily qualify him as my conjugal partner back then right? coz of course i didnt declare him an accompanying member in my PR application before coz we were not married nor in a common law rel'p, and to my understanding engagement doesnt necessarily mean we are in a conjugal rel'p right? i was sure of this before, now im in doubt again. thoughts please?  thanks

[mc1234]

According to the OP2 guide from CIC found here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

5.46.

Can conjugal partners be substitutes for fiancé(e)s?

Conjugal partners are NOT substitutes for fiancé(e)s. CIC decided that it no longer wanted to be
in the business of assessing future relationships or the intention of two individuals to establish and
maintain a conjugal relationship. Thus, there is no fiancé(e) category in the IRPA and Regulations.
If they intend to apply as spouses, Canadians and their foreign national fiancé(e)s are expected
to be married before the immigration process takes place, i.e., the foreign national must be
married to the Canadian sponsor and apply to immigrate as a married spouse.
Fiancé(e)s are individuals who intend to marry and intend to establish a conjugal relationship. In
most cases, they have not yet established a conjugal relationship. They intend to combine their
affairs and become mutually interdependent, but have not yet done so. Even if they have a sexual
relationship, they have not yet achieved the level of mutual interdependence that characterizes a
conjugal relationship although they intend to do so at some point when they marry.
Most traditional fiancé(e)s cannot meet the definition of conjugal partner. They have not merged
their affairs and established the required mutual interdependency. As well, conjugal partners must
have established a sexual relationship, and traditional fiancé(e)s would be unlikely to meet this
criterion

[pelipeli]

thank you so much, whew! what a relief. the things that make you paranoid when the app has been sent out already! im going over and over our application forms and proofs in my mind and it drives me crazy when i think of somehing that might go wrong. thanks so much 

[mc1234]

hehe, not too worry I do the same! Good luck on your application, I am sure it will be fine!

[pelipeli]

hehe, not too worry I do the same! Good luck on your application, I am sure it will be fine!

thank you so much, Goodluck to you too

[AtHomeInMontreal]

According to the OP2 guide from CIC found here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

5.46.

Can conjugal partners be substitutes for fiancé(e)s?

Conjugal partners are NOT substitutes for fiancé(e)s. CIC decided that it no longer wanted to be
in the business of assessing future relationships or the intention of two individuals to establish and
maintain a conjugal relationship. Thus, there is no fiancé(e) category in the IRPA and Regulations.
If they intend to apply as spouses, Canadians and their foreign national fiancé(e)s are expected
to be married before the immigration process takes place, i.e., the foreign national must be
married to the Canadian sponsor and apply to immigrate as a married spouse.
Fiancé(e)s are individuals who intend to marry and intend to establish a conjugal relationship. In
most cases, they have not yet established a conjugal relationship. They intend to combine their
affairs and become mutually interdependent, but have not yet done so. Even if they have a sexual
relationship, they have not yet achieved the level of mutual interdependence that characterizes a
conjugal relationship although they intend to do so at some point when they marry.
Most traditional fiancé(e)s cannot meet the definition of conjugal partner. They have not merged
their affairs and established the required mutual interdependency. As well, conjugal partners must
have established a sexual relationship, and traditional fiancé(e)s would be unlikely to meet this
criterion

Concise, professional answer.  Well done, mc1234.  +1

[mc1234]

Concise, professional answer.  Well done, mc1234.  +1

Thank you very much, AtHomeInMontreal!

[pelipeli]

Thank you very much, AtHomeInMontreal!

gave you a +1 too