Do I marry a Moroccan?

[cinderellacats]

Hello everyone,
Well, I am back from beautiful Morocco. Wow, what a wonderful country. The people I think really add to it's charm. Too bad Canada does not harbour the same envirnoment. Everyone is happy to meet you and open their homes to you. I miss it already.
My Moroccan man is truly a decent and wonderful person. His family and friends were so good to us, it was amazing.  He and my son were awesome together. A few times I wondered if he liked my son more than me...lol. My son even said that he wanted to go back to his house in Morocco, instead of coming back to ours in Canada.
There is no question in my mind or heart any more. I feel as though this man was walked out of my dreams and into my heart and life. I will be returning in March to offically marry him.
Thank you all for your advise and encouragement.
My next postings will be about the Immigration and Visa process. Again Than You!

[Raven]

Hi Cinderellacats,

Good to hear you enjoyed your trip, what cities did you visit? I loved Morocco too but on my next trip will venture farther north, I want to see the mountains. I spent most of my time in Marrakech, Rabat and Essaouirra.

There is so much to see and do my 3 weeks there last year was so not enough time. When you go to get married make sure you have lots of time, the process is slow and involved but it's doable with patience. Take as many pics as you can, you will need them for the immigration process.

Best of luck,
Raven

[cinderellacats]

Hi Raven,
I was in Rabat during my stay however next time I am out I will be seeing Marrakesh and Fes as he has family in both cities.
I was planning a 12-13 day stay will that be long enough? I was going to apply for the Capacity of Marriage from Canadian Foreign Affairs and have my documents translated (in Arabic right?) before I left hoping it will save time. Any advise?
Cinderellacats

[Raven]

Hey there,

That would not be enough time. It took us 2 weeks but that was with a lot of help from family and friends since my husband's family called upon people they knew in senior positions to help us speed up the process. The average time I hear is about 3 weeks from start to finish. One of the girls that posts on this board it took them 5 weeks.

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/morocco/marriage-en.asp

Start here and get the list from the Adul of everything you will need. It takes 2 days to get the Capacite de Mariage from the embassy. I brought all my documents translated into French and some documents already had both French and English on them (ie RCMP police clearance) bonus! Once we had all the documents we needed we then had it all translated into Arabic in Marrakech (took 2 days). Be prepared to wait around a lot, run around a lot and give people money to get your paperwork moved along faster. I wasn't surprised by this as my home country(Croatia) is exactly the same so my husband always carried around small bills.

My husband's family was key in knowing what to do, where to go and his mom was the organizer of everything. It became a game of who's office do we have to sit and wait in front of today but eventually it was all done and the day we were at the Adul's signing papers I was thrilled....and married.

Best of luck,
Raven

[izzy]

hi raven.....that will be my????lol.......45 days no lies ok...i got to morroc on the 1st off agost and got married the 3th of sept.....FUNNNNNN...
LOL
IZZY

[Raven]

Izzy!

Yep I was talking about you my dear friend :)


Raven

[ellegirl]

It is a true fact about muslims that it might be just another scam story.

I will share with you what I know about them.

In every religion or nation there are both good and bad people, but in muslim religion it is seen upside down.

Muslim men never respected a woman and treat them as an object.  Once you marry him, he will never care of washing a plate, vacuum the rooms, cook a dinner etc.

Muslim men think they are the main links in the family so you have to always make things work for him, not for you. 

He will keep ogling other women even after your marriage and looking for an affair on the side.

After he possibly sorts out his documents for permanent residence, he will be about to marry his morroccan fiancee and bring her to Canada, because Islam says a wife can never be christian nor other religion or, in the worst case scenario, he will convert you into islam and you will be supposed to wear those women's clothes that hides your body.

We dont want all of this!

Please allow more time to get to know him before making any lethal decision!
Good luck and god bless you!

[Raven]

Ellegirl,

Let me get this straight someone who was illegal in my country has the right to made comments and post lies!!!!

It's people like you that disgust me, you come into MY country illegally, waste MY governments valuable time and resources to track your sorry as down and deport you. These are my tax dollars that are being used and it angers me that people like you exist and crawl this earth. You are brazen enough to say that the Canadian government gave you money to leave. Amen to that, thank God you are out of my country and living under whatever rock you crawled up from.

Canada does not need money sucking scum like you in this country and it's the likes of you that make our process so difficult. Why I have to wait months and months to be reunited with my husband, why I have to save every email, every note card letter we have sent each other to prove that our relationship is genuine, why? because moron's like you...criminals who think they can skirt the system.

I will not even lower myself to comment about your complete and total ignorance about the muslim faith and culture. Educate yourself before posting nonsense and slander.

Best of luck to you and be grateful that Canada deported you and not another country because you'd be living your days in some gulag somewhere.

[saeeda]

hi everyone,
like most of you, i to will marry a moroccan the summer. He is the most wonderful man, and his family is great,they accepted me from the first day they met me.But i need some help, i have looked at what i need for the marriage, the only problem is, is that i live in germany an will be going in april to live.I am not sure where to get my criminal record check from, should i get it from canada or from germany?,is there a time limit on how long from the time you get this paper to the time you get married?I am planning to stay in morocco until he gets his visa then we want to go to canada, will that be a problem?

As for this person who made negative remarks about Muslim men, all i can say is get a life, you have no idea what you are talking about.I will be converting to Islam when i go to morocco, not because he said that i should but because that is WHAT i want,i have spent the last few years reading all that i can over the religion and have decided that this is what i want,i have fasted at ramadan and have often been in the mosque.So before you go spouting your mouth off about something you have no knowledge about, shut it.

Your thoughts and comments would be welcome


saeeda

[cinderellacats]

Hi Saeeda,
Bravo my dear! Good for you. Your choice to convert is one only you can make for your own reasons. The more I learn about the faith, the more respect I have for it. I really admire alot of the Muslim Islamic customs. It was after I returned from Morocco and was just outside the front of my house did it really hit. By this I mean the following....3 young teenaged boys were walking down my street (not the sidewalk but the middle of my street) I must of heard the F word about a dozen times in less the 20 seconds from them as they spoke to each other. They dressed like "home boys" and greeted each other by touching the knuckles of their closed fists with each other when they met up with some other boys. I thought "this would not happen in Morocco" and sadly I also felt embarrassed.
In regards to your questions, my advise would be that you should get your criminal record from both Canada and Germany (better safe than sorry). From what I understand the certificate is only valid for 3 months from when it is dated. I will be going back 2 weeks short of mine expiring, so just to be on the safe side I am going to get it done again. All I had to do was find an RCMP office close to where I lived, made an appointment, gave my pertinents. When I arrived, it was ready. Not sure how you will be able to do it from Germany. Check their website and or contact them, is the best I can suggest.
By the way, the criminal check with the RCMP that they want does not require it to be one with finger prints.
Enjoy your stay in Morocco, you have my envy.

Cinderellacats

[rgvinson777]

I'll bet your head is swimming with all of the positive and negative advice.  I think that its good to get all of the imput that you can so I will offer something for you to consider also.

In your posting, you said that you are a christian and your prospective husband is a muslim.  This is something that CIC will look at very closely.  (As they should.)  Putting aside political correctness, there are serious differences between muslims and christians.  Two very different roads.  Please consider that a persons religion usually goes to their very core.  Being in love is of course wonderful and exciting and when we are in love, we tend to ignore important issues like religion and faith.  They just don't seem important.  However, if you are christian at the core of your soul, you may find yourself in a struggle and conflict in time to come. As a 55 year old man, I am discovering that my core beliefs mean more and more to me as I get older and take greater place in my life.  I am thankful that my wife and I are on the same spiritual path.  Otherwise, I would be a most lonely man.  The excitement of being "in love" fades from time to time as divorce rates prove.  Spiritual faith in the same God is the tie that binds.  Can you imagine converting to islam and letting your christianity go?  Can you imagine your prospective husband converting to christianity and letting islam go?  These are two very different faiths/roads.  The difference will become clear over time and you will find yourselves growing apart or abandoning your God.  Your immediate family loves you more than anyone...remember that!  (Just a caution!)

Best wishes!!

RGV

[marocbeauty]

First of all Yasmina/Isabelle the words that your using to defend muslim men are no different then the words that person is using to say bad about muslim men. Since I have been scammed I have been doing some research and the results show that morccan men that come to canada and the US after marriage. Well 68% of them are scammers and very good ones at that. You might have been married to your husband for a few years but you have not lived with him that long. My husband was to great to me and his family also I was treated like a Queen. But all that time they had other intentions. When he first came to canada I still was treated like a Queen untill that day he received his PR card. It all changed from there. I am lucky to be alive right now. I hope to god that it does not happen to you or anyone else on this forum but Statistics show that it happens to many times. I do know from a very good source from our government that things will be slowing down with Visa's being given out to moroccans because of the scamming that is being done. There are some genuine people but most are not. Including the women. I know love can make you dismiss alot of things but keep your eyes open for the signs dont do what I did an ignore them because of love.

Good luck
God Bless.

[rgvinson777]

I never said if I was christian or muslim.   

[Raven]

Marocbeauty,

Scammers exist everywhere, even in Canada. There are good and bad people everywhere, religion plays no part in that.

If your personal experience was a bad one that does not mean all relationships with Moroccan men/women go bad. Whatever caused the breakup of your relationship may not have anything to do with immigration, perhaps once living together you were not compatible as partners, simply as that. You talk about statistics, I believe statistics show that nearly 50% of all marriages in Canada end in divorce. were all those people scammed? no, they were not compatible, fell out of love, etc...etc....millions of reasons why marriages end.

I take personal offense when people make blanket statements that are clearly a load of bs.

Happy Friday,
Raven

[marocbeauty]

Hi Raven

No BS about what is going on. The stats are correct. I said nothing about religion at all. I have been doing so much research on this. And did you also know that immigration reads all these posts>>>thats a fact also. I know also that 50 percent of marriages end any country. But morocco is becoming worse and worse for this. You watch and see the new laws that are going to be passed very soon. Since this happend to me I have been doing so much research with the help of my friend that is on the immigration board the same one that helped me get my husbands visa so fast. Its too late for me because it allready happend but its going to stop so many scammers. I am not saying that it is going to happen to anyone here I am just saying its a good chance and to keep your eyes open because its not a good feeling. It could happen anywhere it was just my experience and alot of other men and womens experience it happend by a moroccan. And its not a religion thing. Its a thing where people do not care about anyone but themselves and will hurt anyone to get what they want.