Do I have to file a Canadian Tax Return? When does spouse become dependent?
CANADAVISA.com Immigration Forum
October 31, 2014, 11:41:54 pm
   Home   Assessment Help Search Login Register RSS  
*
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

 News
 
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Do I have to file a Canadian Tax Return? When does spouse become dependent?  (Read 10434 times)
blessedelaine
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 865
Ratings: +5
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Manila
App. Filed.......: 61312 mailed out
Doc's Request.: n/a
Nomination.....: 61512 CPC-M received
AOR Received.: 82112- thru email
IELTS Request: n/a
File Transfer...: 82712
Med's Request: n/a
Med's Done....: 51012
Interview........: n/a
Passport Req..: 012813-email/ Submitted all docs: 040213
VISA ISSUED...: 042513 PDOS.......:042613
LANDED..........: 050513

« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2013, 04:23:28 pm »

Thanks for the info guys. I am learning something from your conversations here that I can apply when I file my tax return next month.. Smiley
Logged

I AM THE SPONSOR FROM WINNIPEG
Waited for 10 months, 1 week and 2 days till Visa.

Patience is a virtue..
It's all worth the wait!
Just keep your faith in Him..
HE is an answering GOD.
God bless everyone!
Enjoy life's jouney guys..
Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
ap_123
Star Member
****

Posts: 118
Ratings: +4
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: ND
App. Filed.......: 07 June 2012
Doc's Request.: Sent with Application
AOR Received.: 01 August 2012
File Transfer...: 14 August 2012
Med's Done....: 30 March 2012
Passport Req..: 11 September 2012
VISA ISSUED...: In Process 08 October 2012.....address change 30 Nov. 2012
LANDED..........: Landed Jan 25th 2013

« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2013, 06:01:46 pm »

Hi guys,

Interesting topic indeed. I need some clarifications for my situation, please advise.

Myself - working from April 2012 (PR since 2011)
Got married in Dec. 2011

My Spouse - first time landed in Jan. 2013

Questions,

1) Can she file her own return for 2012 (she was not here in Canada and did not have SIN # either in 2012) ?

2) Can I include her on my return and claim her deductions for 2012, while I was married but spouse was not here in Canada during 2012 ? If yes, how much can I claim ? She did not work at all outside of Canada in 2012.

Please note after landing in Jan 2013, spouse now has a SIN #, but not in 2012.

Thanks you in advance.

AP.

Logged

Pat in Vancouver
parker24
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 3339
Ratings: +69
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
App. Filed.......: 06-03-2012
File Transfer...: 05-06-2012
Med's Done....: 16-11-2011
Passport Req..: 16-11-2012
LANDED..........: 04-01-2013

« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2013, 06:22:57 pm »

Hi guys,

Interesting topic indeed. I need some clarifications for my situation, please advise.

Myself - working from April 2012 (PR since 2011)
Got married in Dec. 2011

My Spouse - first time landed in Jan. 2013

Questions,

1) Can she file her own return for 2012 (she was not here in Canada and did not have SIN # either in 2012) ?

2) Can I include her on my return and claim her deductions for 2012, while I was married but spouse was not here in Canada during 2012 ? If yes, how much can I claim ? She did not work at all outside of Canada in 2012.

Please note after landing in Jan 2013, spouse now has a SIN #, but not in 2012.

Thanks you in advance.

AP.



No to number one. And yes you can INCLUDE her, but no you can't claim her deductions UNLESS you can prove she had a SIN and was totally 100% dependent on you (Which you can't). My accountant explained this to me.
Logged


LA Office Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/jw4xc3a
Spreadsheets: http://tinyurl.com/kqxgrrs
March 2012 Outland: http://tinyurl.com/76othzp
pardesifr
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 404
Ratings: +14
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Islamabad
App. Filed.......: 2013

« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2013, 09:50:31 pm »

No to number one. And yes you can INCLUDE her, but no you can't claim her deductions UNLESS you can prove she had a SIN and was totally 100% dependent on you (Which you can't). My accountant explained this to me.

Not true at all.  You can include your spouse on your tax return even if she don't have SIN and living outside the Canada.  I done mine with help  of agent from Canada revenue agency on phone  the agent told me to add my wife deduction and world income of her on my tax form  and thats what I did and all went well Smiley   I even received check from Quebec Cheesy I don't know if federal give also some money back lolzz

My advise either change your accountant or do it yourself   anyway most of the time I find that these accountant don't know shi*t about thing lolzz   Only thing they know is their fees just like immigration consultants
Logged
parker24
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 3339
Ratings: +69
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
App. Filed.......: 06-03-2012
File Transfer...: 05-06-2012
Med's Done....: 16-11-2011
Passport Req..: 16-11-2012
LANDED..........: 04-01-2013

« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2013, 10:43:39 pm »

Not true at all.  You can include your spouse on your tax return even if she don't have SIN and living outside the Canada.  I done mine with help  of agent from Canada revenue agency on phone  the agent told me to add my wife deduction and world income of her on my tax form  and thats what I did and all went well Smiley   I even received check from Quebec Cheesy I don't know if federal give also some money back lolzz

My advise either change your accountant or do it yourself   anyway most of the time I find that these accountant don't know shi*t about thing lolzz   Only thing they know is their fees just like immigration consultants

I can't do it myself as I have medical and disability to put on it and all "do it yourself" ways refuse to allow me to be on ODSP. And my accountant has been doing my taxes since I was 18 (I'm now almost 25). And he only charges 80 bucks. How did you claim your wife's foreign deductions?!
Logged


LA Office Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/jw4xc3a
Spreadsheets: http://tinyurl.com/kqxgrrs
March 2012 Outland: http://tinyurl.com/76othzp
amikety
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 4921
Ratings: +134
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: CPP-O
App. Filed.......: 15-01-2013
AOR Received.: 2-2-2013
Med's Done....: 12-10-2012
Passport Req..: 9-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...: 7-08-2013
LANDED..........: 7-08-2013

« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2013, 11:17:31 pm »

I can't do it myself as I have medical and disability to put on it and all "do it yourself" ways refuse to allow me to be on ODSP. And my accountant has been doing my taxes since I was 18 (I'm now almost 25). And he only charges 80 bucks. How did you claim your wife's foreign deductions?!

I called CRA and the agent told me my husband had to claim me.
Logged

This post brought to you by Sir Amikety

Each day is a gift! Cherish it!

January 2013 Outland Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/bls2hjh
Ottawa Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/c2lh6v4

parker24
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 3339
Ratings: +69
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
App. Filed.......: 06-03-2012
File Transfer...: 05-06-2012
Med's Done....: 16-11-2011
Passport Req..: 16-11-2012
LANDED..........: 04-01-2013

« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2013, 10:59:37 am »

I called CRA and the agent told me my husband had to claim me.

Yes, have your name and such. But from what I was told, anything that you got from your home country, medical etc, you cannot claim on Canadian Taxes for your spouse.
Logged


LA Office Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/jw4xc3a
Spreadsheets: http://tinyurl.com/kqxgrrs
March 2012 Outland: http://tinyurl.com/76othzp
ap_123
Star Member
****

Posts: 118
Ratings: +4
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: ND
App. Filed.......: 07 June 2012
Doc's Request.: Sent with Application
AOR Received.: 01 August 2012
File Transfer...: 14 August 2012
Med's Done....: 30 March 2012
Passport Req..: 11 September 2012
VISA ISSUED...: In Process 08 October 2012.....address change 30 Nov. 2012
LANDED..........: Landed Jan 25th 2013

« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 01:09:13 pm »

No to number one. And yes you can INCLUDE her, but no you can't claim her deductions UNLESS you can prove she had a SIN and was totally 100% dependent on you (Which you can't). My accountant explained this to me.

Hi Parker 24,

Many thanks for your reply.
Logged

Pat in Vancouver
ap_123
Star Member
****

Posts: 118
Ratings: +4
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: ND
App. Filed.......: 07 June 2012
Doc's Request.: Sent with Application
AOR Received.: 01 August 2012
File Transfer...: 14 August 2012
Med's Done....: 30 March 2012
Passport Req..: 11 September 2012
VISA ISSUED...: In Process 08 October 2012.....address change 30 Nov. 2012
LANDED..........: Landed Jan 25th 2013

« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2013, 01:10:30 pm »

Not true at all.  You can include your spouse on your tax return even if she don't have SIN and living outside the Canada.  I done mine with help  of agent from Canada revenue agency on phone  the agent told me to add my wife deduction and world income of her on my tax form  and thats what I did and all went well Smiley   I even received check from Quebec Cheesy I don't know if federal give also some money back lolzz

My advise either change your accountant or do it yourself   anyway most of the time I find that these accountant don't know shi*t about thing lolzz   Only thing they know is their fees just like immigration consultants

Hi pardesifr,

Good to know this, I might call CRA, as you did and will follow as they say.

Many thanks for your input in this.

Thanks guys.

AP.
Logged

Pat in Vancouver
Rob_TO
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 4122
Ratings: +112
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......: 13-07-2012
AOR Received.: 18-08-2012
File Transfer...: 21-08-2012
Med's Done....: Sent with App
Passport Req..: N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...: 30-10-2012
LANDED..........: 16-11-2012

« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2013, 02:02:34 pm »

No to number one. And yes you can INCLUDE her, but no you can't claim her deductions UNLESS you can prove she had a SIN and was totally 100% dependent on you (Which you can't). My accountant explained this to me.

To clarify, you can claim your spouse under line 303 - Spouse/Common-Law Partner Amount, even if they don't have a SIN or aren't a resident of Canada. This is a set amount to claim, which is then reduced by their world income. See here for CRA rules, under section 35 "Non-Resident Spouse, Child or Grandchild of an Individual Resident in Canada": http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pub/tp/it513r/it513r-e.html

In terms of "deductions", perhaps you are referring to individual deductions of the non-resident spouse? i.e. if they had medical receipts or tuition payments in their home country. In this case i really don't know the rules on if the Canadian spouse could somehow claim this.
Logged
amikety
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 4921
Ratings: +134
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: CPP-O
App. Filed.......: 15-01-2013
AOR Received.: 2-2-2013
Med's Done....: 12-10-2012
Passport Req..: 9-07-2013
VISA ISSUED...: 7-08-2013
LANDED..........: 7-08-2013

« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2013, 02:04:53 pm »

Hi pardesifr,

Good to know this, I might call CRA, as you did and will follow as they say.

Many thanks for your input in this.

Thanks guys.

AP.

I called a few months ago. The agent told me the CRA may send a letter to my husband requesting more information about me, such as a copy of my Visitor's Record. Other than that, leave the SIN empty.

My husband got his refund yesterday. We haven't gotten anything from CRA yet asking for more information on me, but I wouldn't doubt it's still in process.
Logged

This post brought to you by Sir Amikety

Each day is a gift! Cherish it!

January 2013 Outland Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/bls2hjh
Ottawa Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/c2lh6v4

parker24
VIP Member
*******

Posts: 3339
Ratings: +69
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: Buffalo, NY --> Los Angeles, CA
App. Filed.......: 06-03-2012
File Transfer...: 05-06-2012
Med's Done....: 16-11-2011
Passport Req..: 16-11-2012
LANDED..........: 04-01-2013

« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2013, 04:17:53 pm »

I called a few months ago. The agent told me the CRA may send a letter to my husband requesting more information about me, such as a copy of my Visitor's Record. Other than that, leave the SIN empty.

My husband got his refund yesterday. We haven't gotten anything from CRA yet asking for more information on me, but I wouldn't doubt it's still in process.

It will be. I'm still getting letters asking for hubby's income of 2011 and when I called to ask why, they said the system has hubby attached to me, and then when he get a SIN the system got confused and needs hubby to send a letter of what he made in 2011 and make sure it matches.

Personally I hate CRA's system haha.
Logged


LA Office Spreadsheet: http://tinyurl.com/jw4xc3a
Spreadsheets: http://tinyurl.com/kqxgrrs
March 2012 Outland: http://tinyurl.com/76othzp
rebecassss
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 272
Ratings: +1
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: London
App. Filed.......: 27-08-2012
AOR Received.: In process 13-03-13
Med's Done....: 22-08-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 01-05-2013
LANDED..........: 07-05-2013

« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2013, 04:24:15 pm »

When we did the taxes this year it said specifically that a spouse doesn't count as a dependent! Our rebate this year is paltry in comparison to last year. I don't know what changed or why, but it's rubbish.
Logged

Application completed in 7 months 3 weeks 4 days.
truesmile
Champion Member
******

Posts: 1917
Ratings: +44
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: MNL
App. Filed.......: 25-05-2012
AOR Received.: 18-07-2012
File Transfer...: 24-07-2012
Med's Done....: 18-05-2012
Interview........: WAIVED
Passport Req..: 05-12-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 08-01-2013
LANDED..........: 02-02-2013

« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2013, 04:42:08 pm »

That's now "new" this year, the value of your "refund" is only difference between what was remitted on your behalf and what your final 'income tax' amount for the year is.  It doesn't say anything with regard to the amount of taxes you are paying.

My husband got his refund yesterday. We haven't gotten anything from CRA yet asking for more information on me, but I wouldn't doubt it's still in process.
They're busy cramming all the personal T1 returns through the system.  By the time they get around to looking at 'red flagged' returns, choosing which ones to follow up on (yes they go for the BIG bucks first), it will likely be December before you will or would get a request for more information.
Logged
rebecassss
Hero Member
*****

Posts: 272
Ratings: +1
Category........: FAM
Visa Office......: London
App. Filed.......: 27-08-2012
AOR Received.: In process 13-03-13
Med's Done....: 22-08-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 01-05-2013
LANDED..........: 07-05-2013

« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2013, 04:45:38 pm »

That's now "new" this year, the value of your "refund" is only difference between what was remitted on your behalf and what your final 'income tax' amount for the year is.  It doesn't say anything with regard to the amount of taxes you are paying.

What? I did not understand this.

With a dependent you get a tax break/credit based on your circumstances which is then refunded to you, right?

They take the money based on an assumption of your circumstances, take it month by month, then, at the end of the year you correct their errors and they refund the difference?

I hate taxes.
Logged

Application completed in 7 months 3 weeks 4 days.
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by SMF 1.1.10 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC