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jordana
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« on: September 08, 2010, 07:25:20 pm »

Hello Everybody:


For some time I have had this question rolling around in my mind, and I believe is important enough to pose it here.

What is the difference between being a permanent Resident and a Canadian citizen?  Is there any difference between the rights and obligations?

I think I heard somewhere that Permanent Residents have a visa that endures 5 years, and after that they have to start over again, is that true or just bogus?
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 07:29:09 pm »

Main differences:

PR:
- can't vote
- can't have Canadian passport
- must be in Canada 2 out of every 5 years to maintain status

Citizen:
- can vote
- can have passport
- no residence rules

I'm sure I missed something...
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 07:48:55 pm »

Thanks!

I have been browsing the CIC web and it says that there are two ways of losing the PR:

1. Committing a serious criminal offense
2. Not staying at least 730 days in Canada in a 5 year period.

Seems pretty fair to me.

I wonder why people apply for citizenship; apparently there is not much difference in rights and obligations between that and the PR status.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 10:41:52 pm »


If you are Permanent Resident, Can you go to USA as easier as a Canadian Citizen showing the passport?
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 11:31:10 pm »

Hi

If you are Permanent Resident, Can you go to USA as easier as a Canadian Citizen showing the passport?

No, a PR (unless from a visa waiver country) requires a visitor visa to enter the US.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 11:39:18 pm »

Thanks!

I have been browsing the CIC web and it says that there are two ways of losing the PR:

1. Committing a serious criminal offense
2. Not staying at least 730 days in Canada in a 5 year period.

Seems pretty fair to me.

I wonder why people apply for citizenship; apparently there is not much difference in rights and obligations between that and the PR status.

Hmm... maybe so they can vote.  Also, perhaps, because as a citizen you can come and go as you please and you dont have to worry about how long you can be gone and if you can come back. 

I became a US citizen because it was almost the same price as renewing my Green Card and then I would never have to do it again.  Also, I would then be able to retain my US passport and could live in either country at any time.  It is a matter of convenience. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 10:28:58 am »

Main differences:

PR:
- can't vote
- can't have Canadian passport
- must be in Canada 2 out of every 5 years to maintain status

2 years consecutive? what if someone wanna take vacation for 1 or 2 weeks?
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 11:21:21 am »

2 years consecutive? what if someone wanna take vacation for 1 or 2 weeks?

no, luckily its counted in days!  you just have to be in Canada 730 days out of 1825 days.  and it rolls over.  say you renew your PR, but don`t go for citizenship.  If you had stayed for the first two years but left after that, you would have to return on your 6th year of being a PR in order to maintain your PR status.  Even though you just renewed your PR status, you couldn`t leave because it doesn`t count as a start-over, its the last 1825 days that count.  Its sort of confusing, I know.
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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 11:37:48 am »

In my case, the main reason for me to consider becoming a citizen as opposed to staying a permanent resident is to avoid the cost and hassle of having to renew my PR every 5 years. I don't really care about voting and I don't plan to travel much.
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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 11:42:51 am »

I think I'll probably get my citizenship at some point, just to save the hassle of renewing the PR and worrying about future policy changes, etc.

I would just like the feeling of 'full rights' after going through all this mess.
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2010, 01:50:44 pm »

if ur everything is good then get citizenship and pasport
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2010, 03:31:53 pm »

I have a question, my step-brother-in-laws were originally from the Dominican Republic and became "landed immigrants" (same as PR?) when they were kids but they lived in the US illegally on a visa for 10 years or more or so. They still have status in Canada as being PR's, both have jobs. How doesn't the 730 day limit apply there?
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2010, 06:37:21 pm »


I wonder why people apply for citizenship; apparently there is not much difference in rights and obligations between that and the PR status.

Well, I think some people consider becoming a Canadian citizen a real privilege, particularly  those from poor or politically turbulent countries. Certainly having a Canadian passport can make life much much easier when travelling. Also, you can't work in some government jobs or run for a government office as a PR. My husband is so excited about becoming a citizen and is practically counting the days until he can become one.
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2010, 09:08:49 pm »

I can't wait to be a citizen.....why else did I get my PR?Huh

because I love Canada and want to be part of Canadian society and live with my Canadian partner forever....what other reason would anyone want a PR for?
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2010, 09:15:18 pm »

I have a question, my step-brother-in-laws were originally from the Dominican Republic and became "landed immigrants" (same as PR?) when they were kids but they lived in the US illegally on a visa for 10 years or more or so. They still have status in Canada as being PR's, both have jobs. How doesn't the 730 day limit apply there?

Are they working for a Canadian business/government/military in the states?
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