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Author Topic: Dependent Child -Internship/Management Trainship after the completion of studies  (Read 661 times)
skyblue7
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« on: April 17, 2011, 08:28:28 am »

Hi,

As you know that under the family class, a dependent child has to maintain a full-time student status till the visa gets issued. What if a dependent child, during 5-6 years of waiting time, completes his/her Bachelors as well as Masters degree and start doing internship/Management training in the last remaining year. Would that child still be considered as a student? If not, then how it can be justified? Please advise.

Your prompt response will be highly appreciated.

Thanks!!
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 02:18:27 pm »

Hi,

As you know that under the family class, a dependent child has to maintain a full-time student status till the visa gets issued. What if a dependent child, during 5-6 years of waiting time, completes his/her Bachelors as well as Masters degree and start doing internship/Management training in the last remaining year. Would that child still be considered as a student? If not, then how it can be justified? Please advise.

Your prompt response will be highly appreciated.

Thanks!!

The dependent child only has to remain a full time student if he/she was 22 years or older when the application to sponsor was filed.  If they were younger than that when the application was submitted, they do not have to remain a full-time student.  Internship/management training would not be considered studies unless it is done at an accepted educational institution as a part of their academic program.  Sadly, it doesn't matter how it can or cannot be justified.  CIC makes the rules.
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skyblue7
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 07:44:02 am »

Can you please share some details regarding this law? As the applicant in question has been asked to submit educational document(Admission letter, voucher, degree etc) after the completion of Master's degree.  Not to mention, the applicant was under the age of 22 and a full time student when the application was filed.
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rjessome
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 03:30:05 pm »

Can you please share some details regarding this law? As the applicant in question has been asked to submit educational document(Admission letter, voucher, degree etc) after the completion of Master's degree.  Not to mention, the applicant was under the age of 22 and a full time student when the application was filed.

Please see OP Manual 2.  http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
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skyblue7
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 04:29:50 pm »

For child over the age of 22, the law says that he/she needs to be a full-time student when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued. Please explain, I'm in a fix.

Thanks!

Excerpts from pg 18

Dependent children over 22 years of age and full-time students

Since before the age of 22 or, if married or a common-law partner
before the age of 22, since becoming a spouse of common- law
partner they have been:

• substantially dependent for financial support on their parents; and

• continuously enrolled and actively pursuing a course of study at an
accredited post secondary institution when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued.
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 04:32:57 pm »

How old were you when the application was filed? 
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 04:35:05 pm »

For child over the age of 22, the law says that he/she needs to be a full-time student when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued. Please explain, I'm in a fix.

Thanks!

Excerpts from pg 18

Dependent children over 22 years of age and full-time students

Since before the age of 22 or, if married or a common-law partner
before the age of 22, since becoming a spouse of common- law
partner they have been:

• substantially dependent for financial support on their parents; and

• continuously enrolled and actively pursuing a course of study at an
accredited post secondary institution when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued.


I thought the age is locked-in at the time the application is recieved. They cant expect for someone in late teens at the time of application to keep studying even beyond his graduate studies till they feel like issuing the visa or PR!
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 04:36:52 pm »

For child over the age of 22, the law says that he/she needs to be a full-time student when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued. Please explain, I'm in a fix.

Thanks!

Excerpts from pg 18

Dependent children over 22 years of age and full-time students

Since before the age of 22 or, if married or a common-law partner
before the age of 22, since becoming a spouse of common- law
partner they have been:

• substantially dependent for financial support on their parents; and

• continuously enrolled and actively pursuing a course of study at an
accredited post secondary institution when the application is
received by CPC-M and when the visa is issued.

This refers to when the dependent 'child' was over 22 when the application was received.
If the dependent child was not yet 22 when the application was received, his/her age is 'locked in' and he/she does not have to remain a student.
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skyblue7
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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 12:52:20 am »

 @  Charlie: if over 22 ; 23 to be precise

Provided the uncertainty of the visa issuance date, is it logical to further continue your education after Masters.  Even if one opt for Phd/MPhil (from reputed universities) he/she needs to have at least one year of work experience. And accordingly, if a person does internship/Management Training to get some practical knowledge; Is there any way it can be justified? What needs to be done in such scenario?

Thanks!

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skyblue7
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 10:39:43 pm »

Anyone for some advise?
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 10:12:18 am »

 @   Charlie: if over 22 ; 23 to be precise

Provided the uncertainty of the visa issuance date, is it logical to further continue your education after Masters.  Even if one opt for Phd/MPhil (from reputed universities) he/she needs to have at least one year of work experience. And accordingly, if a person does internship/Management Training to get some practical knowledge; Is there any way it can be justified? What needs to be done in such scenario?

Thanks!

So at the time the application was submitted to Mississauga, you are saying the dependent was already 23, correct?

I'm sorry to say but it doesn't matter what is "logical".  Bottom line is that the dependent who was over 22 years of age at the time the application was submitted but remain in school and dependent upon the parents until the visa is issued.  Those are the rules and in order for the dependent to remain eligible, they MUST follow them.
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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 09:04:50 pm »

hi.. just want to ask  because im confused of my situation now.im under the family sponsorship of my mother as a dependent child.she submitted or filed the papers last  march 2011 and my age at that time is 2o but im turning 21 in may of the same year and that time also i graduated from my bachelors degree. my question is do i have to enroll again or continue studying until we get the approval?


please help me..thank you
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chasley
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 06:26:43 am »

hi.. just want to ask  because im confused of my situation now.im under the family sponsorship of my mother as a dependent child.she submitted or filed the papers last  march 2011 and my age at that time is 2o but im turning 21 in may of the same year and that time also i graduated from my bachelors degree. my question is do i have to enroll again or continue studying until we get the approval?


please help me..thank you
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rjessome
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 10:42:57 am »

hi.. just want to ask  because im confused of my situation now.im under the family sponsorship of my mother as a dependent child.she submitted or filed the papers last  march 2011 and my age at that time is 2o but im turning 21 in may of the same year and that time also i graduated from my bachelors degree. my question is do i have to enroll again or continue studying until we get the approval?
please help me..thank you

No, you don't have to remain in school.  You age was locked in on the date the application was submitted.
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