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Rajan01
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« on: March 20, 2010, 10:22:46 am »

Hi Friends!
LETS DISCUSS THE ISSUE RELATED TO CREDENTIALS ASSESSMENT OF ACEDEMIC QUALIFICATION:

The fact that since we have been accepted to immigrate to canada, but our education may not automatically be recognized in Canada .It does not gurantee employment in canada in our preferred profession as per our education. If one's need to upgrade their skill or education for their intended occupation after landing, we would have to contact Canada recognized assessment agency in Canada (for acedemic credentials assessed to determine Canadian equivelent) which is resposible for credential assessed in the province or territory ,where we plan to live. Requirements for entry into a regulated occupation can vary between provinces and territories. They usually include:examinations,an evaluation of your language and communication skills,a specified period of supervised work experience A queries, below, can be helpful  :
Can it adviceable(to save time), to apply for assessment of our acedemic education, before landing in Canada by providing a mailing address in canada(of our relative or friend) for correspondence from college,unversity or institute.

Regards!
Rajan
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trinatocanada
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 04:06:17 pm »

Hi Rajan,

Credentials evaluation differ from profession to profession.  I am a physiotherapist and it is possible for us to begin the credentialing process even before getting PR.  It is even possible to complete the lack in credits through online classes before obtaining PR.  I know this for a fact because I have gone through the whole process already.

I suggest for you to contact the agency responsible for your profession and find out if it is also possible in your field to start the process early. 

It is an excellent idea to begin credentials assessment early.  It saves time and it will give you a broader sense of what you are up against with regards to getting into your field of work faster once you have landed in Canada permanently.

Hope this helps.
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Rajan01
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 01:08:54 am »

Professional associations refusing to recognize the credentials of foreign workers are threatening to slow Canada's economic recovery, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney said Thursday.  May read the news item at the site with title:Agencies must halt 'gatekeeper' approach:  Kenney
http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100319/kenney_credentials_100319/20100319/?hub=MontrealHome

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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2010, 02:21:08 am »

Dear brothers, sisters & friends,

We can get as much of our 'foreign' quals 'credentialed/assessed' -pre or post landing. However, the fact remains that it is not going to help... assist with our imdt jobs.

I'd advice all to be practical, street smart & know your marbles well. As a newcomer it makes no difference to the Canadian employer/s whether we are Doctors, Engineers, Software professionals, Teachers/Professors etc. in our homeland. Neither it will make any benefit if our quals were 'assessed'. Till 1-2 yrs. we'll have to slog. Only thereafter that, any satisfactory success is expected in our jobs foray. The sooner we realize this -the better we'd be.

And by then [after 1-2 yrs.], whether our quals were 'credentialed' or not, it'd make no difference at all. That's the 'real-time' situation here. There are scores & scores of studies on this, the HRSDC has initiated an 'action plan' on the subject, Govt. is trying to butt-in, but alas... No viable solution has yet been found. BTW, the employers are in no mood to employ us [new immigrants] into professional tasks -whether in regulated occupations or otherwise.

And why should they be? When enough of educated & experienced applicants are already in the job market -easy to tap on. Why should they rely on a newcomer, whose degrees & experience cannot be 'accounted' for? And why should they bother, when they have to fill-in their 'starter' positions -blue collar or white? And when everybody in Canada has passed that 67 score, is well-educated, has practical 'hands-on' experience; and yet in the market looking for & grabbing any & every job that comes along.

Thus, in my opinion, those credentialing matters is the least of our worries, as of now. Settling down, putting kids to School, obtaining a decent [competitively priced] House & any Job should be more of a cause to be stressed. At a later stage we may like to get our quals assessed as well. Given the fact that whether we do it pre-landing or post-landing, the costs & timeframe remains the same.

Sorry for sounding too pesssimistic, but wouldn't it be better if we knew the hard facts, beforehand? Rather than expecting the utopia & getting unnecessarily depressed about it later. An advice: Things are not that bad here. It's only the 'teething trouble/s' that we may have to go thru initially. Subsequently, Canada is a great place to be in & settle down with our family. 99% we'll be much better-off than what we are today.

All the best !
Qorax
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2010, 04:37:41 am »

That's true and detailed picture of Canada for new immigrants. It's better to look for any job first and try and settle yourselves down in terms of property renting/buying, kids and family. After few months when everyone gets phone line and broadband sorted, than search and start applying for new jobs and don't lose hope untill you get one. Best of luck to everyone.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2010, 12:12:10 pm »

While it is true that getting our credentials assessed will not assist us in looking for survival/immediate jobs, I would still have done it.

I have no qualms whatsoever working in a survival job far away from my field of work to start my life in Canada.  But I have also learned that opportunity knocks when you least expect it and the fight always goes to the swift.

If for example, an opening in my field presents itself while I am working in a survival job... I would like to think that I have a fighting chance compared to someone who has not bothered to get their credentials assessed or someone who wanted to wait for sometime before getting a license to practice. I don't think it was a waste of time and money... I see it as an investment... slow, but still an investment.

Its just a matter of arming yourself with as much ammo before going to the fight.  You may not be able to use it right away, but you will surely be glad you have it when the time comes that you really needed it. 

I don't know, maybe its just me and a lot of people beg to disagree but I firmly believe that you can be a realist AND an optimist at the same time. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2010, 03:42:31 pm »

Well said trina , I fully agree with you.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 07:16:06 pm »

any recommendations for ICAS

icascanada.ca/
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2011, 02:13:35 am »

Hi Qorax,
As always, wat u have told us is the truth and reality, and it helps to come there with a practical and open frame of mind. Both my husband and myself are dentists and we know how difficult it would be to get into dental practice there, after compl our licensing procedures. In fact, both of us plan to get into some transition jobs, then do some further studies in Canada, in some field related to healthcare, that would help us land good jobs after that.
I'm in fact open for a total career change, my favorite fields are psychology-mainly child psychology and early childhood care/educator. But as far as I have browsed, I think all those courses have intakes only in Fall! So im wondering wat to do about my study plans, and will a temp job(both my hubs and mine) help us sustain. Our tickets are booked for Feb.
Any suggestions?
Suja
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2011, 10:46:27 am »

Hi Qorax,
As always, wat u have told us is the truth and reality, and it helps to come there with a practical and open frame of mind. Both my husband and myself are dentists and we know how difficult it would be to get into dental practice there, after compl our licensing procedures. In fact, both of us plan to get into some transition jobs, then do some further studies in Canada, in some field related to healthcare, that would help us land good jobs after that.
I'm in fact open for a total career change, my favorite fields are psychology-mainly child psychology and early childhood care/educator. But as far as I have browsed, I think all those courses have intakes only in Fall! So im wondering wat to do about my study plans, and will a temp job(both my hubs and mine) help us sustain. Our tickets are booked for Feb.
Any suggestions?
Suja

Come with an open mind. Think Canada with a long-term perspective.
_Carry enough funds - in a new land one never knows what, when & how [more] monies would be needed.
_Take one step at a time.
_Grab a job (any) at the first opportunity -- even as a 'dentist' one shouldn't mind handling the 'cash-tills of Walmart'.
_Prepare your further studies...
_Obtain your license (it'd be time-consuming YES, but look forward to the better picture).
_Never lose hope.
_Never fall pray to the distractors.
_Eventually u will succeed.


I know many Dentists, who also came here as newcomers one day, and today they have their own [successful] practice!
U can do it too...

All the very best!

Qorax
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2011, 10:59:07 am »

While it is true that getting our credentials assessed will not assist us in looking for survival/immediate jobs, I would still have done it.

I have no qualms whatsoever working in a survival job far away from my field of work to start my life in Canada.  But I have also learned that opportunity knocks when you least expect it and the fight always goes to the swift.

If for example, an opening in my field presents itself while I am working in a survival job... I would like to think that I have a fighting chance compared to someone who has not bothered to get their credentials assessed or someone who wanted to wait for sometime before getting a license to practice. I don't think it was a waste of time and money... I see it as an investment... slow, but still an investment.

Its just a matter of arming yourself with as much ammo before going to the fight.  You may not be able to use it right away, but you will surely be glad you have it when the time comes that you really needed it. 

I don't know, maybe its just me and a lot of people beg to disagree but I firmly believe that you can be a realist AND an optimist at the same time. 

+1 for you trina
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« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2011, 11:05:41 am »

For office jobs, bank jobs, accounts jobs no academic credential assessment is required.
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« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2011, 08:55:18 pm »

Thanks Qorax
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