Citizenship

[kelKel]

Haha, I'm not sure we should even joke about that *cringe*...

Very true.

[Love_Young]

Sorry Rinnerz, it is the PR card that has to be renewed. Still I would much rather not have to renew anything at all.
And I would most definitely not look forward to going through this in another 5 years, lol. *runs away screaming* Ahh...I don't even want to think of that happening. 

[doctorkb]

KelKel: according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship "Germans and Austrians can apply for a permit to keep their citizenship (Beibehaltungsgenehmigung) before taking a second one (e.g., Arnold Schwarzenegger holds Austrian and US citizenship). "

Maybe something to look into.

[PMM]

Hi

My partner has been in Canada for over 3 years now but won't be getting his citizenship.  Germany won't allow him dual so he doesn't want to give up his EU passport.  

If he could he would but he can't

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Au Contraire, he can retain his German citizenship if he applies in advance for permission from Germany before applying for his Canadian citizenship.  See:http://www.toronto.diplo.de/Vertretung/toronto/en/04/Citizenship/Seite__StA__Deutsche__eng.html

From the German Website

It is now easier for Germans who acquire a foreign nationality to retain their German nationality. Pursuant to section 25 (2) of the Nationality Act, both public and private interests must be weighed up when deciding whether to allow someone to keep their German nationality. In the case of Germans living abroad, a key factor to be considered is whether they still have ties with Germany, such as close relatives or property in the country. Please note that permission to retain German nationality must be obtained before acquiring the new nationality.

[kelKel]

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Au Contraire, he can retain his German citizenship if he applies in advance for permission from Germany before applying for his Canadian citizenship.  See:http://www.toronto.diplo.de/Vertretung/toronto/en/04/Citizenship/Seite__StA__Deutsche__eng.html

From the German Website

It is now easier for Germans who acquire a foreign nationality to retain their German nationality. Pursuant to section 25 (2) of the Nationality Act, both public and private interests must be weighed up when deciding whether to allow someone to keep their German nationality. In the case of Germans living abroad, a key factor to be considered is whether they still have ties with Germany, such as close relatives or property in the country. Please note that permission to retain German nationality must be obtained before acquiring the new nationality.

I'm definietely aware he must ask for permission and have already downloaded the form.  We had a friend who tried (been out of Germany for several years) and was denied not showing sufficient ties to Germany although his parents still reside there.   Guess there's no hurt in trying though

[emmagail]

My partner has been in Canada for over 3 years now but won't be getting his citizenship.  Germany won't allow him dual so he doesn't want to give up his EU passport.  

If he could he would but he can't

That sounds very odd/unusual, i now of plenty of  (married to 1) people who have dual citizenship.

Its not a German passport anymore, its EU, and Ireland lets you be dual

[Leon]

It may be an EU passport but since he is a German citizen, they still decide who gets to keep it and who doesn't.  Even though they have introduced this clause about being able to apply to keep it, you must show that it would be hardship for you to lose it.  Some other countries in the EU allow dual like Ireland and the UK and some others but it is up to each country.

For somebody who has lived in Canada, maybe for years, and only comes to Germany to visit, they could still come visit with a Canadian passport since they are visa exempt so it would be hard to show that it would be hardship for them to lose it.

[kelKel]

It may be an EU passport but since he is a German citizen, they still decide who gets to keep it and who doesn't.  Even though they have introduced this clause about being able to apply to keep it, you must show that it would be hardship for you to lose it.  Some other countries in the EU allow dual like Ireland and the UK and some others but it is up to each country.

For somebody who has lived in Canada, maybe for years, and only comes to Germany to visit, they could still come visit with a Canadian passport since they are visa exempt so it would be hard to show that it would be hardship for them to lose it.

I know as I said earlier our friend attempted that but was refused.  He'll most likely just remain a PR   Just happy he can stay with me here!!!

[Leon]

There's really no problem staying a PR, even for decades.  The only thing he has to do is resist temptation to commit crimes and renew his PR card every once in a while.  He can do everything as a PR except vote.

If you end up moving outside Canada, he will keep his PR as long as he is living with you, the Canadian citizen spouse, even though he doesn't meet the residency requirements of 2 in 5 years any more.  Keeping the EU passport means that he has the right to live anywhere in the EU and he also has the right to apply for a residency permit for the Canadian spouse to stay there with him.