CHC, Islamabad Spouse Sponsorship Timeline 2009 -2010

[raptorsfan]

In todays society educated people are respected. I will give you an example.

In my workplace, everyone is friends with this one staff member and they respect him because he has an MBA.

I also want to be respected like that and that is why I am also working towards my MBA. A man earns respect with education. Its not about making $5000/day and cheating people. This has nothing to do with education. Zardari is not educated at all and he is making tons of money. We need education for proper upbringing of our kids in the future. We don't want them to get misguided. If we have a proper education then our kids will learn proper mannerism (tehzeeb) and turn out right. If the parent is jahil then the kid will be misguided and confused about the world outside.

I will give you an example. My wife's khala was married at the age of 16 and remained uneducated. She had children at an early age. The oldest daughter didn't get proper upbringing and was always told what to do. Kinda like, "yeh karo, wo karo". In schools, she was taught something else. She was confused and got involved in a few wrong things.

That is the difference between education and jahalat.

[hogaishaadi]

In todays society educated people are respected. I will give you an example.

In my workplace, everyone is friends with this one staff member and they respect him because he has an MBA.

I also want to be respected like that and that is why I am also working towards my MBA. A man earns respect with education. Its not about making $5000/day and cheating people. This has nothing to do with education. Zardari is not educated at all and he is making tons of money. We need education for proper upbringing of our kids in the future. We don't want them to get misguided. If we have a proper education then our kids will learn proper mannerism (tehzeeb) and turn out right. If the parent is jahil then the kid will be misguided and confused about the world outside.

I will give you an example. My wife's khala was married at the age of 16 and remained uneducated. She had children at an early age. The oldest daughter didn't get proper upbringing and was always told what to do. Kinda like, "yeh karo, wo karo". In schools, she was taught something else. She was confused and got involved in a few wrong things.

That is the difference between education and jahalat.

brother, manners and tehzeeb everyone learns, its a matter of utilizing these skills/virtues... even educated ppl act like donkeys a lot of the times, a person with an MBA can be a tool, education teaches you to be civil and morally correct. No way am i claiming that education is not important or one should not attain it. However, respect is garnered in society in a thousand ways. Especially in now a days society, respect itself comes in different shapes and forms... it all depends on whom you want to respect you. Educated does not only necessarily mean going through books and schools, there are tons of ways to get/become educated.

A wealthy man sends his son/daughter to high end educational outlets, more to satisfy his ego, than to educate his child. Then at times he pushes/advances that undeserving child through under the table deals or hidden deals.

A middle class man sends his son/daughter to low end educational outlets, just to educate them. Often he sweats out blood doing so, and often he cuts some corners to do so.

A poor man just educates his son/daughter the virtues, they may not know the high end lingo/terminology, but will iterate the same things to you basically meaning the same.

Then there are dumb/lazy ppl, these no matter how much you educate they will remain constant.

Jahalat is when one knows that something is wrong, and they still go ahead and do it. Usually it comes from those that are educated if you know what i mean.

For example, a farmer will teach/educate his son about agriculture and how to take care of the crops... you could go and read books about it at school, but that farmer's son will be much better than you at it at the end of the day.

btw in today's society even if a donkey has a million bucks ppl will line up to show respect to him, not a guy with an MBA and who is jobless... today's society is all about money... unfortunately...

that's not to say i dont see where you are trying to come from, but it is a complex or grey area to cover/look at, and usually all and everyone looks at it in their own context...

[missingmyjaan]

In todays society educated people are respected. I will give you an example.

In my workplace, everyone is friends with this one staff member and they respect him because he has an MBA.

I also want to be respected like that and that is why I am also working towards my MBA. A man earns respect with education. Its not about making $5000/day and cheating people. This has nothing to do with education. Zardari is not educated at all and he is making tons of money. We need education for proper upbringing of our kids in the future. We don't want them to get misguided. If we have a proper education then our kids will learn proper mannerism (tehzeeb) and turn out right. If the parent is jahil then the kid will be misguided and confused about the world outside.

I will give you an example. My wife's khala was married at the age of 16 and remained uneducated. She had children at an early age. The oldest daughter didn't get proper upbringing and was always told what to do. Kinda like, "yeh karo, wo karo". In schools, she was taught something else. She was confused and got involved in a few wrong things.

That is the difference between education and jahalat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahiliyyah

Jahiliyyah (Arabic: جاهلية‎ ǧāhiliyyah/jāhilīyah "ignorance") is an Islamic concept of "ignorance of divine guidance" or "the state of ignorance of the guidance from God"[1] or "Days of Ignorance"[2] referring to the condition in which Arabs found themselves in pre-Islamic Arabia, i.e. prior to the revelation of the Quran to Muhammad. The root of the term jahiliyyah is the I-form verb yajhalu "to be ignorant or stupid, to act stupidly".[3] By extension, it has come to refer to the state of anyone not following Islam and the Quran.

[raptorsfan]

brother, manners and tehzeeb everyone learns, its a matter of utilizing these skills/virtues... even educated ppl act like donkeys a lot of the times, a person with an MBA can be a tool, education teaches you to be civil and morally correct. No way am i claiming that education is not important or one should not attain it. However, respect is garnered in society in a thousand ways. Especially in now a days society, respect itself comes in different shapes and forms... it all depends on whom you want to respect you. Educated does not only necessarily mean going through books and schools, there are tons of ways to get/become educated.

A wealthy man sends his son/daughter to high end educational outlets, more to satisfy his ego, than to educate his child. Then at times he pushes/advances that undeserving child through under the table deals or hidden deals.

A middle class man sends his son/daughter to low end educational outlets, just to educate them. Often he sweats out blood doing so, and often he cuts some corners to do so.

A poor man just educates his son/daughter the virtues, they may not know the high end lingo/terminology, but will iterate the same things to you basically meaning the same.

Then there are dumb/lazy ppl, these no matter how much you educate they will remain constant.

Jahalat is when one knows that something is wrong, and they still go ahead and do it. Usually it comes from those that are educated if you know what i mean.

For example, a farmer will teach/educate his son about agriculture and how to take care of the crops... you could go and read books about it at school, but that farmer's son will be much better than you at it at the end of the day.

btw in today's society even if a donkey has a million bucks ppl will line up to show respect to him, not a guy with an MBA and who is jobless... today's society is all about money... unfortunately...

that's not to say i dont see where you are trying to come from, but it is a complex or grey area to cover/look at, and usually all and everyone looks at it in their own context...

I agree to some degree but for the most part I disagree. A man earns respect with education. I m sorry but that is what I have seen in my workplace.

[lonly widout hubby]

Are bhai nahin chero usko, bari mushkil se shaant kia hai!!! Kahin guthlian marni shuru na kar de tumhe!!! 

tum ko maroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gulityaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa yeh shoessssssssss

watever u wantttttttttttttttttttttt 

shut up now n do ur workkkkkkkkkkk

aur koi kammmmmmmmmmmmmm aap ko kyaaaaaaaaaaaa 

[Imtihaan]

brother, manners and tehzeeb everyone learns, its a matter of utilizing these skills/virtues... even educated ppl act like donkeys a lot of the times, a person with an MBA can be a tool, education teaches you to be civil and morally correct. No way am i claiming that education is not important or one should not attain it. However, respect is garnered in society in a thousand ways. Especially in now a days society, respect itself comes in different shapes and forms... it all depends on whom you want to respect you. Educated does not only necessarily mean going through books and schools, there are tons of ways to get/become educated.

A wealthy man sends his son/daughter to high end educational outlets, more to satisfy his ego, than to educate his child. Then at times he pushes/advances that undeserving child through under the table deals or hidden deals.

A middle class man sends his son/daughter to low end educational outlets, just to educate them. Often he sweats out blood doing so, and often he cuts some corners to do so.

A poor man just educates his son/daughter the virtues, they may not know the high end lingo/terminology, but will iterate the same things to you basically meaning the same.

Then there are dumb/lazy ppl, these no matter how much you educate they will remain constant.

Jahalat is when one knows that something is wrong, and they still go ahead and do it. Usually it comes from those that are educated if you know what i mean.

For example, a farmer will teach/educate his son about agriculture and how to take care of the crops... you could go and read books about it at school, but that farmer's son will be much better than you at it at the end of the day.

btw in today's society even if a donkey has a million bucks ppl will line up to show respect to him, not a guy with an MBA and who is jobless... today's society is all about money... unfortunately...

that's not to say i dont see where you are trying to come from, but it is a complex or grey area to cover/look at, and usually all and everyone looks at it in their own context...

I salute you. (there is no emotico for that)

[lonly widout hubby]

humain toh gitliyaan bhi nahin milain gi ae faraz,
kyon ke agar aisa howa, toh phir yeh nahin,
paa ji ho jaien gey humaray naraz...


unh ko hi milay ga sabh kuch... hum jaisey dheet pohanch bhi gaye toh khaali hath hi aien gey... lol

samajj nahye ayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
kuch bhi 

[hogaishaadi]

I agree to some degree but for the most part I disagree. A man earns respect with education. I m sorry but that is what I have seen in my workplace.

that is fine and dandy, i understand you don't have to agree at all, but the place called world is bigger then one workplace...

[missingmyjaan]

I know someone who always wanted to be a firefighter. His high school teacher always discouraged him from pursuing that goal because it wasn't so grand. That student then went on to become a firefighter anyways, because it's what he was passionate about.
 
His teacher changed his view about his student one day, and respected him more than anyone else in the world.  Because, the student saved his teacher's life in a fire.

Just shows you the paradox.

[hogaishaadi]

I know someone who always wanted to be a firefighter. His high school teacher always discouraged him from pursuing that goal because it wasn't so grand. That student then went on to become a firefighter anyways, because it's what he was passionate about.
 
His teacher changed his view about his student one day, and respected him more than anyone else in the world.  Because, the student saved his teacher's life in a fire.

Just shows you the paradox.

there are a ton of positive and negative examples...

for example a gang will ask a person to commit a vile crime to accept him, and that person often does the heinous act to earn their respect... now tell me respect has been gained and granted here, but where is the education you speak off...

if you tell an educated person to jump in the well, he/she will say no
if you tell an uneducated person to jump in the well, what do you think he/she will?

here is where education helps you...

there are three ppl in the room, two are arguing...
one is all pro education and anti-jahalat, the other person is claiming no one should be labelled jahil... and the argument continues...
third person steps in and says kindly stop this argument its of no good...

the educated person or the person who was arguing for pro-education would have taken the hint and changed topics.... the other person would have gone on and on about it...

similarly, if I asked an uneducated person who you like more mom or dad, i would probably get both but likely chances of the person picking one of the two... the educated person would have picked the politically correct answer by saying both even though he probably liked one of the two or neither... that's the difference...

i think you should put this to rest, and help ppl regarding their sponsorship questions, and help motivate and keep the morale high of those that still await good news...

[hogaishaadi]

I salute you. (there is no emotico for that)

thank you and with that off i go to bed, gotta go to work tomorrow...

hope to hear/read some good news from some folks out here tomorrow after work.

[raptorsfan]

well hogaishaadi....i know which member you are...this is your second id...lolzz...keep up the good work bro...i just passing some time b/c i am bored at work...

i m done from here now....take care

[dell1505]

 
oh bhai logo......koi mujhe batai ga keh CHC Islamabad Spouse Sponsorship Timeline 2009-2010 kahan per hai........
yeh to koi social/religious discussion lagti hai........

[RougeAmour]

Hahahaha be as educated as you want. If youre going to act like a jerk and treat others like theyre beneath you, youre just an a*s off the street.

[rackeya]

sis med was issued on May 28 waiting for it but soon as NEW DELHI clears it they will send PPR letter i guess less waiting then remed+ppr togther

oh icici so u have sent ur remed? now u r waiting for ppr..... u did not get remed and ppr together?