CHC, Islamabad Spouse Sponsorship Timeline 2009 -2010

[bestplace4u]

hey guyz,

i am so happy today by the Grace of Allah my hubby got PPR today...Thank u guyz for ur support and help....
now how long it will take to get pp back?

Many Congratz

[humpakwatankaylog]

Yes it is not a human right for everyone in the world to immigrate to Canada but if you frame the argument from sponsors point of view...sponsors are Canadian tax paying Citizens and they are entitled to unbiased services from their government within a reasonable amount of time. If this government's actions are creating a hell on earth for the citizens then I beleive there can be an human right angle t o this situation

I wonder if this would apply for unreasonable delay (mandamus) in processing for all stages of the application from the pakistani spousal applicants ? http://canlii.ca/en/ca/fct/doc/2003/2003fct777/2003fct777.html
 

1. There is a public duty to the applicant to act;

2. The duty must be owed to the applicant;

3. There is a clear right to performance of that duty, in particular:

(a)      the applicant has satisfied all conditions precedent giving rise to the duty;

(b)      there was a prior demand for performance of the duty, a reasonable time to comply with the demand, and a subsequent refusal which can be either expressed or implied, e.g. unreasonable delay; and
4. There is no other adequate remedy. [See Note 5 below]

5. The "balance of convenience" favours the applicant (Apotex Inc. v. Canada (A.G.), 1993 CanLII 3004 (FCA), [1994] 1F.C. 742 (C.A.), aff'd 1994 CanLII 47 (SCC), [1994] 3 S.C.R. 1100, Conille v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), [1992] 2 F.C. 33 (T.D.)).

      In Conille, supra, 1998 CanLII 9097 (FC), [1999] 2 F.C. 33 (T.D.) , Tremblay-Lamer J. set out three requirements at paragraph 23, that must be met if a delay is to be considered unreasonable:

(1)    The delay in question has been longer than the nature of the process required, prima facie;

(2)    The applicant and his counsel are not responsible for the delay; and

(3)    The authority responsible for the delay has not provided satisfactory justification

But I guess this only gives a ground for unreasonable delay for a court case not sure if it can be of any help for First Priority Spousal Cases only processing from Pakistan.

[Khilafah5]

I am in New Brunswick but I will take off from my Job and will fly to Toronto for this Dharna but we should do some homework such as

1) We should make a list of suffering people.
2) Locate some contact in Media.I know a guy who is running Pakistan times news paper,I will check with him if he know any concerned person.
3) Write down a letter with everybody signatures
4) Places where we should go to raise our voice
5) etc etc.....Add you suggestion

Khilafah5
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[Khilafah5]

Hey everyone!! I just got back from my mp he has told me, that they have changed the processing times to 18 months he also said that they transfered some of the files to the Uk so they can process the files faster ..... Inshallah soon I hope all of us thats been waitng will hear some good news soon!!!

If this is true then its possible why there is a delay in oct 2010 on wards cases because they have been transfered to another processibg location which will take time

Chc islamabad has started to process jan 2011 cases as we seen last week for fjr423 husband case

[masom_2012]

kch arse phle b shor macha tha us forum pe k protest kiya jae ga spouse tymline pe but shor macha k khamoshi tari hogae sb par ab phr shor mach raha plzzzzzzzzz ab uth k kch kro tm log if awaz uthani hai tou enough is enough aur kis tymline ki bat karte hai yaha pe log ap likh k tym line decrease nhi increase he hogi sb jhot aur bakwas hai ,ap log shor machate rahe is forum pe immigiration walo pe iska koi asar nhi hoga sirf ALLAH he un k dil mai reham dal sakte hai r bas plz if action lyna hai tou ly bht hogya ab,,,

[masom_2012]

today i got a reply from CHC k my file is in queue for inital review by an immigiration officer wot does it means...???i applied in april2011...

[i.Solo]

me too 

Another person will be babarkhan... I guess

I have updated the list.Now We have 12 people wiling to participate.Good response guys.Add your self if somebody is missing.
Please also memories yr contacts in media/human right organization/news paper or active people in Toronto so when we start our discussion from draft version to final version ,we will have good input from everybody.

[Baloo]

I think Baloo is an agent. That is just my opinion. His statements are making us think twice. And then he plays the politics and says. "Go ahead and protest". I am a very up front in your face person and I will tell how it is about Baloo. Stop playing politics bro. You are playing politics with the wrong type of people. We are Pakistanis. Don't think you can press us againt the wall already before the protest even starts.


You make me laugh, "I think Baloo is an agent", you are quite paranoid, really.

FWIW I disagree with long immigration delays (for anyone, not just Pakistanis) and have said why many times; However I understand why the delays exist, and in some cases the time taken is justified.
Why do I suggest that you can protest, because in Canada you can, however, if you are going to make a good case, you need to be aware of as much information as you can. Khilafah5 is has the right concept, prior planning, don't just talk and stumble into a protest.
If someone ends up standing in front of a camera, they will have to be ready for it.
Why do you think politicians (and others) have "media training" ?  On camera you have far less than 60 seconds to make your point.
The person being interviewed needs to be clear and concise; e.g. Claiming that immigration delays are a breach of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is not correct, stating incorrect "facts" undermines credibility and it is going to make you look stupid, it's a great way to be ignored.

You said, "His statements are making us think twice", guess what, you should be thinking more than once, rather than proceeding without much thought.

You may well get people to attend, you are less likely to get people on long term hunger strike; But the key point is you don't seem to understand, or have thought about (yet) is how the general population in Canada will view this (assuming you get coverage).

Any government that has a majority in the house and a long way to go before an election, being forced to make changes? Get real.
Convincing the government to change something in these circumstances,... how do you really think that works?

There have been plenty of protests attempted before, clearly in many cases they have been ignored. Learn from that fact.

As I said before, feel free to protest, but be wise before the fact, not after.

FYI - I believe in free speech, the UDHR, political engagement, freedom of choice, working in my community, sustainable activity, the Canadian way of life and many other things.
These things do not make me "an agent", they are however useful markers for being a well grounded Canadian citizen.

[kachrakhana]

You make me laugh, "I think Baloo is an agent", you are quite paranoid, really.

FWIW I disagree with long immigration delays (for anyone, not just Pakistanis) and have said why many times; However I understand why the delays exist, and in some cases the time taken is justified.
Why do I suggest that you can protest, because in Canada you can, however, if you are going to make a good case, you need to be aware of as much information as you can. Khilafah5 is has the right concept, prior planning, don't just talk and stumble into a protest.
If someone ends up standing in front of a camera, they will have to be ready for it.
Why do you think politicians (and others) have "media training" ?  On camera you have far less than 60 seconds to make your point.
The person being interviewed needs to be clear and concise; e.g. Claiming that immigration delays are a breach of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is not correct, stating incorrect "facts" undermines credibility and it is going to make you look stupid, it's a great way to be ignored.

You said, "His statements are making us think twice", guess what, you should be thinking more than once, rather than proceeding without much thought.

You may well get people to attend, you are less likely to get people on long term hunger strike; But the key point is you don't seem to understand, or have thought about (yet) is how the general population in Canada will view this (assuming you get coverage).

Any government that has a majority in the house and a long way to go before an election, being forced to make changes? Get real.
Convincing the government to change something in these circumstances,... how do you really think that works?

There have been plenty of protests attempted before, clearly in many cases they have been ignored. Learn from that fact.

As I said before, feel free to protest, but be wise before the fact, not after.

FYI - I believe in free speech, the UDHR, political engagement, freedom of choice, working in my community, sustainable activity, the Canadian way of life and many other things.
These things do not make me "an agent", they are however useful markers for being a well grounded Canadian citizen.

Now I understand why you are a VIP member.Your all comments are valid and very reasonable.

But

" Shikw'a zulmat-e- shab sey to kahien behtar tha..
  Apne hissay ki koi shama to jalatay jatay.."

[Danny4450]

Very valid points Baloo. This is why I am thinking about an alternative way to bring awareness of this issue to the society and Government in a polite but robust way. Right now, we have more than 100 people on this forum for Pakistani spousal sponsorship but unfortunately we have only a handful who are willing to participate in any kind of thought process.

[Baloo]

Very valid points Baloo. This is why I am thinking about an alternative way to bring awareness of this issue to the society and Government in a polite but robust way. Right now, we have more than 100 people on this forum for Pakistani spousal sponsorship but unfortunately we have only a handful who are willing to participate in any kind of thought process.

As you say, thinking about this is important.
If you (the group) are going to do this, plan, do it thoughtfully, if not, it will be a wasted opportunity.

I wish you well.

[YasarAllah]

As you say, thinking about this is important.
If you (the group) are going to do this, plan, do it thoughtfully, if not, it will be a wasted opportunity.

I wish you well.

Very well said, I have the same opinion as Baloo has but here I will suggest or advice that at this stage we can use some paper media like New papers in editorial sections(by the anonymous name), it can b collective efforts and as well as individual basis or we can also discuss this issue with some journalist to write a column for us bcoz some of them are famous in public and as well as in government circle and their voice can be hear.

Every body has his/er own views and ideas please come forward and share. Thanks. 

[raptorsfan]

I am totally down for a hunger strike. I have my sleeping bags ready too. Lets do the DHARNA. I am down.

Forget Baloo. I will stick to my statement about Baloo. I mean think about it. All of sudden he is on Islamabad thread and instead of providing some useful tips about immigration, he comes in when we talk about DHARNA.

I will face the camera, I will tell the world that CIC is violating human rights by keeping spouses apart for so long. I will tell the world that the most fraud is in India and China and their timeline is mere 4-6 months. Pakistanis have to suffer 2-2.5 years. I will tell the media that this is discrimination. I have done enough research on Jason Kenny and I know his background. He does favoritism with Indians. Go to www.jasonkenney.com and over there he talk about human rights all over the world and that he cares about human rights all over the world. I will also bring this up in the Media. Mr. Baloo dont talk about facing the Media, b/c I knew your next hit was going to be how are you going to face the media. You remind me of Zardari "Smart Politics". Its obvious that we are not going to just stand there and stay hungry. We are well prepared and know a lot about Mr. Jason, CIC and the process. I have spent tons of time researching about Kenny and about his past and found out it has to do with India and also why Parm Gill is his best bud.

I just need enough people here to actually come and we will make it happen.

Danny bro can you please give me the address of the CIC office. If no1 come I will protest alone.

[*AFREEN*]

I am totally down for a hunger strike. I have my sleeping bags ready too. Lets do the DHARNA. I am down.

Forget Baloo. I will stick to my statement about Baloo. I mean think about it. All of sudden he is on Islamabad thread and instead of providing some useful tips about immigration, he comes in when we talk about DHARNA.

I will face the camera, I will tell the world that CIC is violating human rights by keeping spouses apart for so long. I will tell the world that the most fraud is in India and China and their timeline is mere 4-6 months. Pakistanis have to suffer 2-2.5 years. I will tell the media that this is discrimination. I have done enough research on Jason Kenny and I know his background. He does favoritism with Indians. Go to www.jasonkenney.com and over there he talk about human rights all over the world and that he cares about human rights all over the world. I will also bring this up in the Media. Mr. Baloo dont talk about facing the Media, b/c I knew your next hit was going to be how are you going to face the media. You remind me of Zardari "Smart Politics". Its obvious that we are not going to just stand there and stay hungry. We are well prepared and know a lot about Mr. Jason, CIC and the process. I have spent tons of time researching about Kenny and about his past and found out it has to do with India and also why Parm Gill is his best bud.

I just need enough people here to actually come and we will make it happen.

Danny bro can you please give me the address of the CIC office. If no1 come I will protest alone.

will u stick up to what u just said or like some people you will remain silent after a day or so?
Protest in pakistan will turn out nasty. And it will make no difference if anyone dies of hunger.

[kachrakhana]

I am totally down for a hunger strike. I have my sleeping bags ready too. Lets do the DHARNA. I am down.

Forget Baloo. I will stick to my statement about Baloo. I mean think about it. All of sudden he is on Islamabad thread and instead of providing some useful tips about immigration, he comes in when we talk about DHARNA.

I will face the camera, I will tell the world that CIC is violating human rights by keeping spouses apart for so long. I will tell the world that the most fraud is in India and China and their timeline is mere 4-6 months. Pakistanis have to suffer 2-2.5 years. I will tell the media that this is discrimination. I have done enough research on Jason Kenny and I know his background. He does favoritism with Indians. Go to www.jasonkenney.com and over there he talk about human rights all over the world and that he cares about human rights all over the world. I will also bring this up in the Media. Mr. Baloo dont talk about facing the Media, b/c I knew your next hit was going to be how are you going to face the media. You remind me of Zardari "Smart Politics". Its obvious that we are not going to just stand there and stay hungry. We are well prepared and know a lot about Mr. Jason, CIC and the process. I have spent tons of time researching about Kenny and about his past and found out it has to do with India and also why Parm Gill is his best bud.

I just need enough people here to actually come and we will make it happen.

Danny bro can you please give me the address of the CIC office. If no1 come I will protest alone.

I will be you buddy for any kind of DHARNA,Protest,Bhok hartal etc etc . I am really done with this freaking Imm Process.Phalay hi Pakistan main dair dair say marriages hoti han oppar say 2-3 sal immigration ka wait karoo.Isi intazar main bhudday ho jain gay.