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Author Topic: Chances to sponsor my Conjugal Partner, Entry to Canada?  (Read 377 times)
Erina
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« on: September 24, 2011, 12:34:55 pm »

Ok so I'm gonna explain my situation. I'm a Canadian Citizen, I live in Toronto for 8 years now. My partner holds an Iranian passport and does live in Iran. We are into this close relationship for a year now. And yes it's not just a routine boyfriend- girlfriend like relationship. We cannot get married, because under the Iranian marriage law, woman's father's permission is extremely required and you can't just get married without that permission. My father doesn't want us to get married for only God knows reasons!!! So now that we're prevented (legally) from getting married, can I sponsor him as a Conjugal Partner?? We do have required documents like photos, phone calls, emails, etc... Also we couldn't be able to live with each other in Iran, because again, as the Iranian law indicates: You can't live with opposite-sex without having legal marriage proof. And in Canada, you know it's almost impossible to bring him here as a visitor and live with him for a year!!! I have been in Iran last Christmas and also this past summer just to visit him. I know him for 5 years but our relationship just started last year... Anyone knows if there's any chance? Thankssssss
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Leon
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 12:37:54 pm »

Yes, you have a chance to sponsor him as a conjugal partner as long as you can prove your relationship and show that you have combined your affairs as much as possible and it is not possible for you to live together or get married.

Is it possible for him to travel to some other country where you would be allowed to be married?  Then you could meet him there.
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 01:04:42 pm »

Yes he can travel to another country, but again we need my father's permission, so same process, which is not possible...
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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 09:07:22 pm »

Hi

Yes he can travel to another country, but again we need my father's permission, so same process, which is not possible...

Unless you under 18/19 then you don't need your father's permission to marry in any country except Iran.
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Erina
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 11:17:36 pm »

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Unless you under 18/19 then you don't need your father's permission to marry in any country except Iran.

That's true, but no matter what country, if you marry Iranian way, you need father's permission. If let's say we go to Europe and marry like non- Iranians then our marriage is legal but it's not recognized in Iran. But anyways, do you think now I cannot sponsor him as Conjugal Partner? Like if we get married outside of Iran and then want to travel to Iran later on, our marriage won't be approved by the government... So isn't that enough evidence to show there's marriage barrier? Thanksss
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 12:32:15 am »

That's true, but no matter what country, if you marry Iranian way, you need father's permission. If let's say we go to Europe and marry like non- Iranians then our marriage is legal but it's not recognized in Iran. But anyways, do you think now I cannot sponsor him as Conjugal Partner? Like if we get married outside of Iran and then want to travel to Iran later on, our marriage won't be approved by the government... So isn't that enough evidence to show there's marriage barrier? Thanksss

Why would you care if your marriage is recognized in Iran?  The important thing is that it would be recognized in Canada.  If you sponsor him as a conjugal partner without getting married, you will also not have a marriage that is valid in Iran.  Up to you though.  I think you have a pretty good case for conjugal.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 12:43:12 am »

Why would you care if your marriage is recognized in Iran?  The important thing is that it would be recognized in Canada.  If you sponsor him as a conjugal partner without getting married, you will also not have a marriage that is valid in Iran.  Up to you though.  I think you have a pretty good case for conjugal.

Leon,
I don't really care, I meant if I say these things to CIC would they still accept my case as Conjugal Partner or they'd refuse it because we could have travel to another country and get married, so like there has been no serious marriage barrier. I'd do anything to have him here ASAP, getting married or not doesn't make a difference to me. I can't just go somewhere else and marry him... due to some family things... So basically you're saying I've got high chance, right?
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 12:52:32 am »

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Leon,
I don't really care, I meant if I say these things to CIC would they still accept my case as Conjugal Partner or they'd refuse it because we could have travel to another country and get married, so like there has been no serious marriage barrier. I'd do anything to have him here ASAP, getting married or not doesn't make a difference to me. I can't just go somewhere else and marry him... due to some family things... So basically you're saying I've got high chance, right?

Unlikely that they would approve conjugal, since the only barrier to marriage is your father's permission, which you don't need in any country other than Iran.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 04:02:22 am »

I think you have a good case for conjugal as long as you have combined your affairs as much as possible, you send each other money, you have named each other as heirs in your will, you have joint bank accounts and insurance policies etc.  As a formality, he should also try to apply for a visit visa with the intention of going to Canada to marry you.  If he is refused, you have an immigration barrier as I assume that you can not safely go to Iran and live with him without being married.

Conjugal is usually hard to get accepted but same sex couples for example have not been expected to travel to a country where they are allowed to marry in order to qualify.  I do not know if they would expect that of you but it would be better.  You can read here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/sponsor/spouse-apply-who.asp#conjugal about who can apply under conjugal. 

Why can't you just go somewhere and marry him?  You are an adult.  What is preventing you?  You do not have to tell your parents what you are planning to do.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011, 09:46:35 am »



Why can't you just go somewhere and marry him?  You are an adult.  What is preventing you?  You do not have to tell your parents what you are planning to do.



Yeah I might do that... thanks for the info
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