can i be second time refugee claimant?

[emiral54]

   hi everyone.  i  was  rejected in canada as a  refugee  2 years ago. i have got departure order.  and left country  by my self i  paid  for my  air tickets.my  question  if i can manage to come to canada  again  can i  be  refugee claimant again?please  answer! thanks in advance.

[PMM]

Hi

   hi everyone.  i  was  rejected in canada as a  refugee  2 years ago. i have got departure order.  and left country  by my self i  paid  for my  air tickets.my  question  if i can manage to come to canada  again  can i  be  refugee claimant again?please  answer! thanks in advance.

NO, as you have already made a refugee claim and were found not to be a refugee  http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/inside/apply-who.asp

PMM

[emiral54]

  i  see  what  you  say  but  i know a  person  who claimed  3  times    and  everytime got  deported.but  it  was severalyears  ago  that's  why  i  wanna  make it  clear  .

[emiral54]

  i  forgot to write.  they  refused us  that time.  but this time  i  have  different  reason  than first time.

[Karlshammar]

Nobody can stop you from sending applications in fifty times, but you won't be approved.

  i  forgot to write.  they  refused us  that time.  but this time  i  have  different  reason  than first time.

[emiral54]

so this means  i can be  a refugee claimant  if i can come to  canada?off course not from states!

[job_seeker]

so this means  i can be  a refugee claimant  if i can come to  canada?off course not from states!

PMM has provided the link for you to read. What Karlshammar is saying is you can apply, it does not matter how many times but chances are you won't get an approval.

Eligibility

Some people are not eligible to claim refugee protection in Canada. Officers receiving your refugee claim will decide whether it is eligible for referral to the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada (IRB), an independent administrative tribunal that makes decisions on immigration and refugee matters. The IRB decides who is a Convention refugee or a person in need of protection. Your refugee claim may not be eligible for referral to the IRB if:

    * You have been recognized as a Convention refugee by another country to which you can return;
    * You have already been granted protected person status in Canada;
    * You arrived via the Canada-United States border (see Safe Third Country Agreement below);
    * You are not admissible to Canada on security grounds, or because of criminal activity or human rights violations;
    * You made a previous refugee claim that was found to be ineligible for referral to the IRB;
    * You made a previous refugee claim that was rejected by the IRB; or
    * You abandoned or withdrew a previous refugee claim.

[emiral54]

i understand everything clearly.thank you  for your answers. but  this time if i can come  i will  apply  in different  way. because while  i was  in canada  living,  my  brother  in turkey  killed  someone.now  that  persons  family threat us  by  killing.i have  2  children  i   am affraid  to live  here. that's gonna be  my  case  and  it is  true case.  before  i was political  refugee in canada.  i think  canada  irb  will not  refuse us  because  this is  serious  issue.thanks   a lot.

[job_seeker]

i understand everything clearly.thank you  for your answers. but  this time if i can come  i will  apply  in different  way. because while  i was  in canada  living,  my  brother  in turkey  killed  someone.now  that  persons  family threat us  by  killing.i have  2  children  i   am affraid  to live  here. that's gonna be  my  case  and  it is  true case.  before  i was political  refugee in canada.  i think  canada  irb  will not  refuse us  because  this is  serious  issue.thanks   a lot.

You can certainly try. Hope something works out for you and your family.

[Karlshammar]

Even if your story is 100% true and verifiable I doubt very strongly whether you would ever be allowed in even as a first-time applicant as this is not a refugee question but simply a situation where you should call your local police. As a rejected refugee claimant I think your chances are even less.

I am not trying to make you feel despondent, but I also don't want you to get false hopes... Whatever you do I hope things work out well for you.

i understand everything clearly.thank you  for your answers. but  this time if i can come  i will  apply  in different  way. because while  i was  in canada  living,  my  brother  in turkey  killed  someone.now  that  persons  family threat us  by  killing.i have  2  children  i   am affraid  to live  here. that's gonna be  my  case  and  it is  true case.  before  i was political  refugee in canada.  i think  canada  irb  will not  refuse us  because  this is  serious  issue.thanks   a lot.

[Suin]

why not to try a country in West Europe that doesn't have any records about you? you might succeed there with your current situation. the living style in Europe no worse than in Canada and there's a chance that you get approved, why not to try? if you have such severe threatening problem with your family, I think it would be no difference where to go just to be safe.
that's why my suggestion and it doesn't mean that you need to follow.

[emiral54]

maybe you are right   Suin.  but  in my  family not only  i  decide.  my children  and  my  wife  everybody  want  to go  to canada.we  lived  for  4  years  in canada.  canada  has best  life  style then any other  country.  in europa  for  refugees  life  is  very hard.  actually  i  researched  australia  england  germany  those  countrys  not  recomendable.in canada   even if you  are refugee  you are something.

[Karlshammar]

Well, you are something in every western country if you apply yourself and work hard, but Canada is probably the one country that is closed to you as a refugee... However, feel free to make a try for it, just beware that the official stance of the government of Canada you are not eligible to apply to be a refugee (even if your reason has changed from last time).

I still wish you the best of luck whatever you decide to do, though.

maybe you are right   Suin.  but  in my  family not only  i  decide.  my children  and  my  wife  everybody  want  to go  to canada.we  lived  for  4  years  in canada.  canada  has best  life  style then any other  country.  in europa  for  refugees  life  is  very hard.  actually  i  researched  australia  england  germany  those  countrys  not  recomendable.in canada   even if you  are refugee  you are something.

[PMM]

Hi

Well, you are something in every western country if you apply yourself and work hard, but Canada is probably the one country that is closed to you as a refugee... However, feel free to make a try for it, just beware that the official stance of the government of Canada you are not eligible to apply to be a refugee (even if your reason has changed from last time).

I still wish you the best of luck whatever you decide to do, though.

Second refugee claim, arrives at Port of Entry, Found not eligible, placed in detention, then removed.

PMM

[emiral54]

i will not come to the border.  i will cross the border and  go to the  immigration in edmonton or  toronto  then apply.and  i will not  say that  i  crossed the  border  i  am gonna  say that  i  jumped from the ship.i  hope it will work  though.