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bushraa
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« on: October 20, 2011, 07:02:39 am »

Hi,
I want to know that in catogory of electrician and industrial electrician ,electrical engineers (with four year degree programme) and work experience in telecomminication engineering can apply or not?
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 07:18:39 am »

Hi,
I want to know that in catogory of electrician and industrial electrician ,electrical engineers (with four year degree programme) and work experience in telecomminication engineering can apply or not?

hi
u better read their NOC requirements on their official website. google NOC codes canada.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 08:01:03 am »

Hi,
I want to know that in catogory of electrician and industrial electrician ,electrical engineers (with four year degree programme) and work experience in telecomminication engineering can apply or not?
Hi bushra,

Please read the CIC website and determine yourself whether you are qualified to apply to the respective NOC of your occupation and also meets all the requirements as specified.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/skilled.asp
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 04:52:26 pm »

Hi,
I want to know that in catogory of electrician and industrial electrician ,electrical engineers (with four year degree programme) and work experience in telecomminication engineering can apply or not?

Hi!

Yes an Electrical Engineer can apply as Electrician but your job duties need to match those mentioned on HRSDC website for an Electrician. I am afraid your work experience in telecommunication field wont let you apply for Electrician as both are entirely different.

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/ProfileNocCode.aspx?val=7&val1=7241&val17=7241&val18=0&val19=0

Unit Group

7241 Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)

Electricians in this unit group lay out, assemble, install, test, troubleshoot and repair electrical wiring, fixtures, control devices and related equipment in buildings and other structures. They are employed by electrical contractors and maintenance departments of buildings and other establishments, or they may be self-employed.

Example Titles

apprentice electrician
construction electrician
construction electrician apprentice
domestic and rural electrician
electrician

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Main duties

Electricians in this unit group perform some or all of the following duties:
Read and interpret drawings, circuit diagrams and electrical code specifications to determine wiring layouts for new or existing installations
Pull wire through conduits and through holes in walls and floors
Install brackets and hangers to support electrical equipment
Install, replace and repair lighting fixtures and electrical control and distribution equipment, such as switches, relays and circuit breaker panels
Splice, join and connect wire to fixtures and components to form circuits
Test continuity of circuits using test equipment to ensure compatibility and safety of system, following installation, replacement or repair
Troubleshoot and isolate faults in electrical and electronic systems and remove and replace faulty components
Connect electrical power to audio and visual communication equipment, signalling devices and heating and cooling systems
Conduct preventive maintenance programs and keep maintenance records.
Employment requirements

Completion of secondary school is usually required.
Completion of a four- to five-year apprenticeship program is usually required.
Trade certification for construction electricians is compulsory in Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Nunavut, the Northwest Territories and the Yukon, and available, but voluntary, in Manitoba.
Trade certification for electricians (domestic and rural) is mandatory in Quebec and Ontario, and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador.
Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified construction electricians.
Additional information

Progression to supervisory positions is possible with experience.
Red Seal trade certification allows for interprovincial mobility.
Classified elsewhere

Electrical Mechanics (7333)
Industrial Electricians (7242)
Power System Electricians (7243)
Supervisors of electricians (in 7212 Contractors and Supervisors, Electrical Trades and Telecommunications Occupations )
Classification Structure - 7
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 05:00:16 pm »

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Hi!

Yes an Electrical Engineer can apply as Electrician but your job duties need to match those mentioned on HRSDC website for an Electrician. I am afraid your work experience in telecommunication field wont let you apply for Electrician as both are entirely different.

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/ProfileNocCode.aspx?val=7&val1=7241&val17=7241&val18=0&val19=0

Unit Group

7241 Electricians (Except Industrial and Power System)

Electricians in this unit group lay out, assemble, install, test, troubleshoot and repair electrical wiring, fixtures, control devices and related equipment in buildings and other structures. They are employed by electrical contractors and maintenance departments of buildings and other establishments, or they may be self-employed.

Example Titles

apprentice electrician
construction electrician
construction electrician apprentice
domestic and rural electrician
electrician

View all titles

Main duties

Electricians in this unit group perform some or all of the following duties:
Read and interpret drawings, circuit diagrams and electrical code specifications to determine wiring layouts for new or existing installations
Pull wire through conduits and through holes in walls and floors
Install brackets and hangers to support electrical equipment
Install, replace and repair lighting fixtures and electrical control and distribution equipment, such as switches, relays and circuit breaker panels
Splice, join and connect wire to fixtures and components to form circuits
Test continuity of circuits using test equipment to ensure compatibility and safety of system, following installation, replacement or repair
Troubleshoot and isolate faults in electrical and electronic systems and remove and replace faulty components
Connect electrical power to audio and visual communication equipment, signalling devices and heating and cooling systems
Conduct preventive maintenance programs and keep maintenance records.
Employment requirements

Completion of secondary school is usually required.
Completion of a four- to five-year apprenticeship program is usually required.
Trade certification for construction electricians is compulsory in Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Nunavut, the Northwest Territories and the Yukon, and available, but voluntary, in Manitoba.
Trade certification for electricians (domestic and rural) is mandatory in Quebec and Ontario, and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador.
Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified construction electricians.
Additional information

Progression to supervisory positions is possible with experience.
Red Seal trade certification allows for interprovincial mobility.
Classified elsewhere

Electrical Mechanics (7333)
Industrial Electricians (7242)
Power System Electricians (7243)
Supervisors of electricians (in 7212 Contractors and Supervisors, Electrical Trades and Telecommunications Occupations )
Classification Structure - 7


An Electrical Engineer is not an Electrician, two entirely different occupations.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 05:01:26 pm »

Hi

An Electrical Engineer is not an Electrician, two entirely different occupations.

Sir, its the job duties that matter not qualification. I have seen people on this forum who are Electrical Engineers and applied as Electricain and gone through....

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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 02:49:46 pm »

Hello. Please help me.
 
Can I apply if I have been working as a construction electrician for 1 year. I previously worked as a electrician estimator.
Please note I don't have any diploma related to electrician field. I have bachelor degree in accounting.
Thank you in advance.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 06:08:22 pm »

Pitta

the question is if the VO would accept the devaluation of the post by an Electrical Engineer to Electrician. I still believe with the changing world, we have come to a position where I have seen janitors in Mcdonalds have Phd's in their home countries.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2011, 04:39:57 am »

Guys, what do you think about my situation?
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2011, 06:47:32 am »

Pitta

the question is if the VO would accept the devaluation of the post by an Electrical Engineer to Electrician. I still believe with the changing world, we have come to a position where I have seen janitors in Mcdonalds have Phd's in their home countries.

Hi!

Its not downgrading of an Electrical Engineer to Electrician but Electrical Engineers in many companies are performing more or less the same job duties as Electricians. I know one person who is an Electrical Engineer and is working in a reputable company but his job duties matches with those to an Electrician on HRSDC website.

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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2011, 06:57:32 am »

Hello. Please help me.
 
Can I apply if I have been working as a construction electrician for 1 year. I previously worked as a electrician estimator.
Please note I don't have any diploma related to electrician field. I have bachelor degree in accounting.
Thank you in advance.



Hi!

In my opinion you can try though you don't have any apprenticeship or diploma. If you are from an asian country I think secondary school level education (matric) is enough. The must thing is your job duties must match to those on HRSDC website as mentioned in my above post.


http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/ProfileNocCode.aspx?val=7&val1=7241&val17=7241&val18=0&val19=0

Employment requirements

Completion of secondary school is usually required.
Completion of a four- to five-year apprenticeship program is usually required.
Trade certification for construction electricians is compulsory in Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, Nunavut, the Northwest Territories and the Yukon, and available, but voluntary, in Manitoba.
Trade certification for electricians (domestic and rural) is mandatory in Quebec and Ontario, and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador.
Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified construction electricians.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2011, 07:18:07 am »

Pitta

I hope the Visa officer would think the same way as you did.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2011, 07:24:59 am »

Pitta

I hope the Visa officer would think the same way as you did.

I have seen Electrical Engineers whose job duties matched with Electricians going through.

Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2011, 08:47:45 am »

I have seen Electrical Engineers whose job duties matched with Electricians going through.

Thanks
Hi pittabread, I agree to your comments.
Lot of struggle is made to apply as skilled worker, by meeting all the requirements of CIC. The greatest impediment is  matching the NOC code with their occupation and experiences. Finally the winners get the visa and land in Canada. In fact, how many of them are going to get their profession or similar occupation intended for purpose of his PR visa. A great number of the landed immigrants are compelled to accept any kind of  available job, only because of their embarrassing situation. Of course there are  several professionals and tradesmen who achieved their goals or had successful results for finding  jobs in their own field.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2011, 11:38:42 am »

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If you are from an asian country I think secondary school level education (matric) is enough.

I am from Ukraine.
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