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misuk
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« Reply #390 on: November 01, 2010, 08:27:24 am »

First of all- Which one is your visa office?

There could be many factors, such as
-Different visa offices have different processing timelines.
-Each case is different
-One visa officer can be faster than other
-Quality and accuracy of documents submitted
-Compliance with specific instructions of the concerned visa office to submit documents
-Submissions of plain photocopies versus notorized versus original documents

Cheers....
its SING noc4131, NO addn docs requested yet though some applicants of the same time lines are requested ,  confirmed appropriate documentation but
i have been married before sending full docs to the visa office and i sent all related docs for me and my spouse definitely.
is it taht marriage before  sending full docs  to the VO  makes the delay? and requires additional screening? what do you think?
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murtazaabbasi
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Posts: 715
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0213
App. Filed.......: 19-04-2010
Doc's Request.: 12-July-2010
Nomination.....: 00
AOR Received.: 12-July-2010
IELTS Request: 00
File Transfer...: 20-July-2010
Med's Request: 00
Med's Done....: 00
Interview........: 00
Passport Req..: 00
VISA ISSUED...: 00
LANDED..........: 00

« Reply #391 on: November 01, 2010, 08:28:18 am »

What about funds checking?
I have mentioned required fund with my application it is about 24000 candain dollars , I canot wait for long time in bank saving deposit, can i get amount from bank while my application is submitted for 2nd stage?

please guide me I am worried, bcs the amount I mentionedin bank is big money if we convert in PK rupees and I canot offered my amount in bank for 4-8 months



Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks.


Standard Documentation Checks:
Our background check is done at the CHC stage. It commences the moment our file gets the 1st BFD by the VO. An indicator of which is the e-CAS that shows "In Progress". All docs been checked & our NOC being tallied against the MI, if the VO finds our case 'eligible' for Canadian PR, the file becomes 'Accepted'; and then it goes for standard background checks, viz. Exp, Quals, Adaptability, Qualitative Considerations etc.

The process involves many things. If our case file is well presented and the enclosures vouch the quality-quantity, adequate POF docs etc., there might not be a requirement of 'actually' calling the employers, references etc. The VOs have a way with that, they are experienced enough to ascertain the logical disposition of our case. But, if there are any concerns of his/her, s/he is likely to ask for additional docs, do further scrutiny vide any means [calling, visiting etc.] & might ask for an Interview.

-Culmination: When 'fully' satisfied, we get the 'Medical Request'.
-Timeframe: Can be anything around 3-8* months, for the 'fast track' system (Avg. 4-5 months).
-eCAS: Continues to Show 'In Process'.
 *The older system has a queue, thus can be longer.

Security & Criminality Checks:
A part of the b/ground checks is the 'Security Check'. It commences after our med results are submitted to the CHC. This is a major activity -mainly concerning our 'safe inclusion' into the Canadian Soil; vis-a-vis, Political, Socio-Econmical, Anti-Social disposition, perceived Threat to Canada's integrity etc. This gets us the SDEC, CDEC & SECCRIM.

This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including CSIS, Interpol, NASC, Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here... the No. of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, ex-Servicemen [including Law Enforcement services], Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc.

If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', our case goes into a 'spin'. Then our file might go to the local Police/CID agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over by 5 months max. However, a point to be noted is that we can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason.

-Culmination: Only upon security clearance we receive the PPR.
-Timeframe: Around 2-6 months. Avg. 3 months. [With new system, sometimes PPR is clubbed with Meds]
-eCAS: Still 'In Process', but 'Med Results Recd.' inside.

*Yes, that's how a certain Mr. Sharukh Khan was detained for 4.5 hrs in an US port. He was a VIP, thus 4.5 hrs. For u & me -things could be different.
...
The Process in a Nutshell:

Stage-1: [CIO stage] Send Initial Apps+Processing Fees to CIO-NS > Qualitative Check > Issue of AOR+120 days Letter >

Stage-2: [CHC stage onwards] Send Full Docs+RPRF to the Local Visa Office > File on Queue > e-Cas: "Received by Visa Office" > Eligibility Check+PSDEC > Issue of 2nd AOR > Background Check > Issue of Additional docs Request [if any] > 1st BF'D > e-Cas: "In Process" > Send Addnl. Docs > Issue of Med Request > 2nd BF'D >

Stage-3: Meds Sent > e-Cas: "Medical Results Recd." > Issue of PPR* > Send Passport/s > Security Check > Visa/s Stamped > e-Cas: "Decision Made" >
*The Meds & PPR are sometimes 'clubbed' together.

Stage-4: Return of 'Stamped' Passport/s+COPR > Landing at the POE > e-Cas: "Completed".
...

Qorax
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Visa Office London
App: Sent to CIC 19 April 2010
DD Charged 22 June 2010
1st AOR Rec: 12th July 2010
Full Docs Sub 30th October 2010
2nd AOR :11-5-2011
status:reviewed , processing 19Th apri
6-12 Mnths wait on 14 May 20
18 Months lette
ipog
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« Reply #392 on: November 11, 2010, 01:44:03 am »

Background & Security Checks

Stage-1: [CIO stage] Send Initial Apps+Processing Fees to CIO-NS > Qualitative Check > Issue of AOR+120 days Letter >

Stage-2: [CHC stage onwards] Send Full Docs+RPRF to the Local Visa Office > File on Queue > e-Cas: "Received by Visa Office" > Eligibility Check+PSDEC > Issue of 2nd AOR > Background Check > Issue of Additional docs Request [if any] > 1st BF'D > e-Cas: "In Process" > Send Addnl. Docs > Issue of Med Request > 2nd BF'D >

Qorax

 @  Qorax - A small clarification is needed regarding Stage-1 (mentioned above)

What functions are involved in "Qualitative Check"?

I have been coming across vast comments expressing concern as to whether their documents will be accepted at the VO
during the final submission of all copies of documents including PCC and IELTS.  Some have even expressed that there have
been rejections or refusals of PR with the reply from the VO stating that the document is altered or fake, etc.etc.
If it is so, why are they not rejecting it right in the first stage itself when they are doing a 'qualitative check'. 

Actually, in the second stage (VO level) there should not be any rejections or refusals since apart from failure, the candidates
are also forfeiting the fee paid.  This adds the burden on the candidate.

If the qualititative check has already been performed in the first instance (CIO level) while allotting the file number, what other checks
are there to be conducted at the VO level?

Please elaborate to get a more clear picture.
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lnd_dan
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Posts: 386
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Category........: FAM
App. Filed.......: 17-04-2013
AOR Received.: 14-05-2013
File Transfer...: 14-05-2013
Med's Request: 9th April, 2013
Med's Done....: 9th April, 2013
Interview........: waived
Passport Req..: June, 2013
LANDED..........: July, 2013

« Reply #393 on: November 11, 2010, 02:35:32 am »

hi Murtazaabbasi,
i sent you a PM pls read and get back to me.
my CIC is Ghana
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Monbe
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Posts: 68
Ratings: +3
Visa Office......: london
NOC Code......: 4131
App. Filed.......: 04-02-2010
AOR Received.: 2nd .06-07-2010  in process with RBVO inside 15-03-2010
Med's Request: waiting

« Reply #394 on: November 11, 2010, 02:40:43 am »

thanks Quarx really nice work .u help us to know how things are going during the waiting time .bravooo
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Gallant555
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Posts: 27
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Category........: FSW3
Visa Office......: Buffalo
NOC Code......: 2171
Med's Request: Nov1,2010
Med's Done....: Nov8,2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: May 14,2011
VISA ISSUED...: June9,2011
LANDED..........: June17,2011

« Reply #395 on: November 11, 2010, 06:47:51 am »

Hi Guys,
I received medical request and RPRF. Got medicals done and sent RPRF to VO. Was a big relief after VO had expressed concerns regarding my eligibility for PR. I have scanned through  different forums and I could be wrong but observed that once your application goes "in process" is not a sign for rejection for sure. Also VO will never demand additional documents that you are  not capable of sending. I guess they have tons of experience in accessing a genuine case.
my best wishes for those of you guys "in process" get ready for medicals! and the next ecas status update is going to be "Received Medical results"

Cheers!
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sultanali
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Posts: 361
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: CIC LONDON
NOC Code......: 3152
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 09-09-2009
Doc's Request.: 20-10-2009 , Additional Documents on 7-03-2011
AOR Received.: 18-02-2010
IELTS Request: DONE
File Transfer...: 09-11-2009
Med's Request: 15-06-2010
Med's Done....: 01-07-2010
Interview........: Waiver
Passport Req..: 25-05-11 submitted on 2 Jun
VISA ISSUED...: 6 Jun 11
LANDED..........: Inshallhaa 22 JUNE...

« Reply #396 on: November 11, 2010, 08:53:38 am »

Hi Guys,
I received medical request and RPRF. Got medicals done and sent RPRF to VO. Was a big relief after VO had expressed concerns regarding my eligibility for PR. I have scanned through  different forums and I could be wrong but observed that once your application goes "in process" is not a sign for rejection for sure. Also VO will never demand additional documents that you are  not capable of sending. I guess they have tons of experience in accessing a genuine case.
my best wishes for those of you guys "in process" get ready for medicals! and the next ecas status update is going to be "Received Medical results"

Cheers!

Dear Gallant555

Congratualation for your Medical Smiley , well i would like to clear some points here Visa Office may ask you additional document at any time before ecase change to DM. for example they may ask for recent POF, or BirthCerti which may be easily provided by aaplicant but rarely its happen they ask for new documents but there is less then 0.01% CHANCES ...

Also "in process" doesn't mean you are qualifiyed for PR yah as you got medical thats mean you qualifiyed, also again there are chances of 0.01% refusal if security chks failed , which is unlikely

BUT YOU ARE SAFE AND HOPEFULLY BY GOD-WILLING SOON YOU WILL GET PPR Smiley

GUDLUK

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Good Luck &  Regards
Sultan Ali
Gallant555
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Posts: 27
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Category........: FSW3
Visa Office......: Buffalo
NOC Code......: 2171
Med's Request: Nov1,2010
Med's Done....: Nov8,2010
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: May 14,2011
VISA ISSUED...: June9,2011
LANDED..........: June17,2011

« Reply #397 on: November 11, 2010, 10:23:41 am »

Thanks Sultan-Ali..You are cool!
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qorax
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« Reply #398 on: November 11, 2010, 01:44:10 pm »

What about funds checking?
I have mentioned required fund with my application it is about 24000 candain dollars , I canot wait for long time in bank saving deposit, can i get amount from bank while my application is submitted for 2nd stage?

please guide me I am worried, bcs the amount I mentionedin bank is big money if we convert in PK rupees and I canot offered my amount in bank for 4-8 months

U can perform regular transactions - w/drawals + deposits (not debits alone)... & it's wise to maintain around 70-80% of the required funds in the a/cs.

Qorax
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ipog
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« Reply #399 on: November 12, 2010, 12:30:06 am »

 @   Qorax - A small clarification is needed regarding Stage-1 (mentioned above)

What functions are involved in "Qualitative Check"?

I have been coming across vast comments expressing concern as to whether their documents will be accepted at the VO
during the final submission of all copies of documents including PCC and IELTS.  Some have even expressed that there have
been rejections or refusals of PR with the reply from the VO stating that the document is altered or fake, etc.etc.
If it is so, why are they not rejecting it right in the first stage itself when they are doing a 'qualitative check'. 

Actually, in the second stage (VO level) there should not be any rejections or refusals since apart from failure, the candidates
are also forfeiting the fee paid.  This adds the burden on the candidate.

If the qualititative check has already been performed in the first instance (CIO level) while allotting the file number, what other checks
are there to be conducted at the VO level?

Please elaborate to get a more clear picture.
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qorax
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« Reply #400 on: November 12, 2010, 06:54:01 am »

 @   Qorax - A small clarification is needed regarding Stage-1 (mentioned above)

What functions are involved in "Qualitative Check"?

I have been coming across vast comments expressing concern as to whether their documents will be accepted at the VO
during the final submission of all copies of documents including PCC and IELTS.  Some have even expressed that there have
been rejections or refusals of PR with the reply from the VO stating that the document is altered or fake, etc.etc.
If it is so, why are they not rejecting it right in the first stage itself when they are doing a 'qualitative check'. 

Actually, in the second stage (VO level) there should not be any rejections or refusals since apart from failure, the candidates
are also forfeiting the fee paid.  This adds the burden on the candidate.

If the qualititative check has already been performed in the first instance (CIO level) while allotting the file number, what other checks
are there to be conducted at the VO level?

Please elaborate to get a more clear picture.

Remember, b/ground checks r done only at the VO stage. CIO doesn't Xcheck your claims, they only perform docs checking, whether/if everything is in place in the case file.

It's your VO who'd start assessing your claims & evidences. By any & every means. Besides, in quite a few cases they also have a relook at their own assessment for the 2nd or 3rd time, at a later stage, by a separate section. So, things would remain fluid till one gets his/her Meds (usually !).

Qorax
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murtazaabbasi
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Posts: 715
Ratings: +9
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 0213
App. Filed.......: 19-04-2010
Doc's Request.: 12-July-2010
Nomination.....: 00
AOR Received.: 12-July-2010
IELTS Request: 00
File Transfer...: 20-July-2010
Med's Request: 00
Med's Done....: 00
Interview........: 00
Passport Req..: 00
VISA ISSUED...: 00
LANDED..........: 00

« Reply #401 on: November 12, 2010, 07:25:01 am »

What about funds checking?
I have mentioned required fund with my application it is about 24000 candain dollars , I canot wait for long time in bank saving deposit, can i get amount from bank while my application is submitted for 2nd stage?

please guide me I am worried, bcs the amount I mentionedin bank is big money if we convert in PK rupees and I canot offered my amount in bank for 4-8 months




thanks a lot for sharing information dear
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NOC  0213
Visa Office London
App: Sent to CIC 19 April 2010
DD Charged 22 June 2010
1st AOR Rec: 12th July 2010
Full Docs Sub 30th October 2010
2nd AOR :11-5-2011
status:reviewed , processing 19Th apri
6-12 Mnths wait on 14 May 20
18 Months lette
michaelantiola
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Posts: 355
Ratings: +0
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Manila VO
NOC Code......: 3152
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: May 05,2010
Doc's Request.: Oct 07,2010
AOR Received.: Dec 10,2010
Med's Request: Dec 13, 2011
Med's Done....: Jan 4, 2012
Interview........: waived
Passport Req..: Feb 2, 2012
VISA ISSUED...: Feb 29, 2012
LANDED..........: God willing on Oct 15

« Reply #402 on: November 12, 2010, 07:36:52 am »

Remember, b/ground checks r done only at the VO stage. CIO doesn't Xcheck your claims, they only perform docs checking, whether/if everything is in place in the case file.

It's your VO who'd start assessing your claims & evidences. By any & every means. Besides, in quite a few cases they also have a relook at their own assessment for the 2nd or 3rd time, at a later stage, by a separate section. So, things would remain fluid till one gets his/her Meds (usually !).

Qorax



very informative
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mayankpandya
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Posts: 3714
Ratings: +434
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 10-02-2011.
Doc's Request.: PER on 24- MAR- 2011.
AOR Received.: 20-APRIL-2011
File Transfer...: In-Process on 30 May 2011
Med's Request: 14 July 2011
Med's Done....: 22 July 2011
Passport Req..: 14 -Jul- 2011  Passport send on 26-Jul-11
VISA ISSUED...: 29-AUG-11
LANDED..........: 16-OCT-11

« Reply #403 on: November 15, 2010, 04:26:28 am »

Dear Quorex,

I have some points to clear.

(1) Is it necessary to send 10th & 12th Marksheet to CIO ? becouse in New Delhi Check list it says only POST SECONDARY educational documents ?


(2) As my 10th MarkSheet is in HINDI as well as my Employment contract is also in Hindi ? What to do with it ? What is the procedure to submit it ?

(3) Whether Spouse Passport photo copy need to send to CIO ?

Please let me know on it.

Thanks

Mayank 
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mayankpandya
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Posts: 3714
Ratings: +434
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 10-02-2011.
Doc's Request.: PER on 24- MAR- 2011.
AOR Received.: 20-APRIL-2011
File Transfer...: In-Process on 30 May 2011
Med's Request: 14 July 2011
Med's Done....: 22 July 2011
Passport Req..: 14 -Jul- 2011  Passport send on 26-Jul-11
VISA ISSUED...: 29-AUG-11
LANDED..........: 16-OCT-11

« Reply #404 on: November 15, 2010, 07:54:33 am »

Dear All.

I need to know some points on Employment related points.

I am working as retail Pharmacist in Medical Store since 6 years.

As i have gone through all the details of New Delhi Checklist.


(1) Is it Necessary to include Business Card of reporting person ?


(2) IS is necessary give Annual Salary/Pay Package details ? As i am working in Small Medical Store so there no

such document given to me by my employer? I am  getting  Monthly Salary .

(3) Is it Necessary to include Reliving Letter ?

Please suggest me what are the main important documents is required from Employement point if view ?

Awating your reply.

Thanks

Mayank
   
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