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« Reply #1365 on: September 02, 2011, 10:47:14 am »

Dear Qorax

I need your expert advise again. I am Nov.2004 applicant from NDVO(AOR feb 2005). Now i am going to reapply under SINP programme. Now i am 44 years old. My consultant demanding a huge amount for this option(for JOB offer).Please suggest me should i go for this option or wait for my old case?Please comment ASAP.Very tensed.

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« Reply #1366 on: September 02, 2011, 11:24:34 am »

Those PCCs r the initial steps towards an in-depth security clearance. The security check consists of two codes... SECCRIM & CDEC. SECCRIM is done based on the PCCs. CDEC is the last straw before stamping the PRVs.

It usually indicates that u have cleared your meds. However, your security clearances remains incognito until u have the PRVs.

Qorax

Dear Qorax,

Hi, hope you are fine.

I have got an important news to share with all of you.

I have faxed a signed letter to CSIS whether they have received any request from CIC to do a background check on my application.

A few days ago, I have received a response from CSIS thru snail mail, signed by a CSIS officer that they have received a screening request from CIC on Aug 2 2011. My letter was dated Aug 1 2011. CSIS said the security screening process is in process and they have also said that in the year 2010, they have received close to 265000 security screening requests from CIC, so they cannot guarantee a specific time when the screening would be completed

My visa office is Paris.

My medicals were delivered to the Paris Medical Office on July 4, 2011. In the AOR which I have received from the Paris visa office, they have said it takes about a month to get a final medical decision since Paris visa office is a Regional Program Center ( it has both the medical and immigration offices in the same office, so no need to calculate any extra days for the express deliveries, e.t.c. ).

My medicals were delivered on July 4 2011. Ecas updated on July 11 2011 with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. Aug 2 2011 they have requested CSIS for a security check on my application.

My interpretations from this are given below :-

1 / MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED means exactly what it says, nothing else. You have previously indicated that it normally means that medical results are guaranteed OK. I disagree. If they were OK, why my ecas was updated with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED a week after sending them the medical results ? I doubt they have evaluated my medicals within a week's time.

In the AOR they said it takes about 1 month to evaluate medicals. One month from July 4 2011 is Aug 4 2011. on Aug 2 2011 CIC requested CSIS for a security check. it confirms what they have said in their AOR.

Hence I would say that MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED means exactly what it says. Nothing more, nothing less. It means medical results of the applicant are in the hands of a medical officer pending evaluation and final medical decision.

2 / SECURITY CHECKS BY CSIS ARE ALWAYS CONDUCTED AFTER FULL AND POSITIVE EVALUATION AND ONLY AFTER MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN EVALUATED. Only when the applicant is considered medically fit, CSIS begins their work. CIC will never request CSIS to do security checks before medicals and before they are 100 percent sure that the applicant is qualified for a Canadian PR card.

CSIS security check is the last and final step before PPR. When the security check is complete, no further checks or evaluations are pending, the passport goes to the visa printing office for stamping the passports with Canadian PR visas.

Do you agree with me ?

My other questions :-

1/ my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. since i have heard nothing and the fact that CIC has requested CSIS for a security advice on my application, I have the right to assume that I HAVE PASSED MY MEDICALS. what do you think ?

2/ all of the background and other verification checks by CIC have been completed as well. what do u think ?

3/ how long does CSIS take to complete the security checks ? my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. CSIS received a screening request from CIC on aug 2 2011 and they have responded that it is in process.
CSIS said their procedures include automated record checks, manual records checks and related research and consultations.

4/ may i assume that CSIS screening is the FINAL procedure pending before PPR's and visa stamping ?

5/ Ecas update MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED does NOT mean that medicals are OK, it means exactly what it says i.e. they have been received by the visa office pending evaluation by a medical officer. what do u think ?

your response would be highly appreciated .... on all of the above questions in order to help all of the members in this forum.

hussain
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« Reply #1367 on: September 02, 2011, 11:26:34 am »

Dear Qorax

I need your expert advise again. I am Nov.2004 applicant from NDVO(AOR feb 2005). Now i am going to reapply under SINP programme. Now i am 44 years old. My consultant demanding a huge amount for this option(for JOB offer).Please suggest me should i go for this option or wait for my old case?Please comment ASAP.Very tensed.

Thanks in advance.

Generally speaking, u should be seeing light in the end-of-the-tunnel this yr [for your 2004 case filing].
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« Reply #1368 on: September 02, 2011, 11:42:34 am »

Dear Qorax,

Hi, hope you are fine.

I have got an important news to share with all of you.

I have faxed a signed letter to CSIS whether they have received any request from CIC to do a background check on my application.

A few days ago, I have received a response from CSIS thru snail mail, signed by a CSIS officer that they have received a screening request from CIC on Aug 2 2011. My letter was dated Aug 1 2011. CSIS said the security screening process is in process and they have also said that in the year 2010, they have received close to 265000 security screening requests from CIC, so they cannot guarantee a specific time when the screening would be completed

My visa office is Paris.

My medicals were delivered to the Paris Medical Office on July 4, 2011. In the AOR which I have received from the Paris visa office, they have said it takes about a month to get a final medical decision since Paris visa office is a Regional Program Center ( it has both the medical and immigration offices in the same office, so no need to calculate any extra days for the express deliveries, e.t.c. ).

My medicals were delivered on July 4 2011. Ecas updated on July 11 2011 with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. Aug 2 2011 they have requested CSIS for a security check on my application.

My interpretations from this are given below :-

1 / MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED means exactly what it says, nothing else. You have previously indicated that it normally means that medical results are guaranteed OK. I disagree. If they were OK, why my ecas was updated with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED a week after sending them the medical results ? I doubt they have evaluated my medicals within a week's time.

In the AOR they said it takes about 1 month to evaluate medicals. One month from July 4 2011 is Aug 4 2011. on Aug 2 2011 CIC requested CSIS for a security check. it confirms what they have said in their AOR.

Hence I would say that MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED means exactly what it says. Nothing more, nothing less. It means medical results of the applicant are in the hands of a medical officer pending evaluation and final medical decision.

2 / SECURITY CHECKS BY CSIS ARE ALWAYS CONDUCTED AFTER FULL AND POSITIVE EVALUATION AND ONLY AFTER MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN EVALUATED. Only when the applicant is considered medically fit, CSIS begins their work. CIC will never request CSIS to do security checks before medicals and before they are 100 percent sure that the applicant is qualified for a Canadian PR card.

CSIS security check is the last and final step before PPR. When the security check is complete, no further checks or evaluations are pending, the passport goes to the visa printing office for stamping the passports with Canadian PR visas.

Do you agree with me ?

My other questions :-

1/ my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. since i have heard nothing and the fact that CIC has requested CSIS for a security advice on my application, I have the right to assume that I HAVE PASSED MY MEDICALS. what do you think ?

2/ all of the background and other verification checks by CIC have been completed as well. what do u think ?

3/ how long does CSIS take to complete the security checks ? my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. CSIS received a screening request from CIC on aug 2 2011 and they have responded that it is in process.
CSIS said their procedures include automated record checks, manual records checks and related research and consultations.

4/ may i assume that CSIS screening is the FINAL procedure pending before PPR's and visa stamping ?

5/ Ecas update MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED does NOT mean that medicals are OK, it means exactly what it says i.e. they have been received by the visa office pending evaluation by a medical officer. what do u think ?


your response would be highly appreciated .... on all of the above questions in order to help all of the members in this forum.

hussain

Disagreement is healthy !

Now to your queries:

1/ my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. since i have heard nothing and the fact that CIC has requested CSIS for a security advice on my application, I have the right to assume that I HAVE PASSED MY MEDICALS. what do you think ?
- YES. Else, by now u'd have also heard from them, if there was a med furtherance requirement.

2/ all of the background and other verification checks by CIC have been completed as well. what do u think ?
- NO. If it was such, then u'd have recd. your PPR.

3/ how long does CSIS take to complete the security checks ? my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. CSIS received a screening request from CIC on aug 2 2011 and they have responded that it is in process.
CSIS said their procedures include automated record checks, manual records checks and related research and consultations.
- CANNOT BE FORESEEN/OPINED CORRECTLY. Depends on many factors/variants.

4/ may i assume that CSIS screening is the FINAL procedure pending before PPR's and visa stamping ?
- NO. Your security clearance could be sought from many other agencies as well, incl. FBI, Homeland Security, Local Police & Intelligence Agencies. The situation/requirement is quite fluid.

5/ Ecas update MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED does NOT mean that medicals are OK, it means exactly what it says i.e. they have been received by the visa office pending evaluation by a medical officer. what do u think ?

- Usually, this e-Cas is 'only' reflected once the meds have been "seconded" by PMB-Ottawa. Not that they receive it & they log-it on the e-Cas imdtly. However, it also could be that your med reports were pretty simple & straight - which made the 'secondment review' easy.

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« Reply #1369 on: September 02, 2011, 06:25:39 pm »

Hi Master Qorax!

I have submitted my work permit application package together with the copy of my passport. since I am frequently traveling from Dubai to Saudi Arabia, my passport is ranning out of empty page. Prior to my submission...I took the chance of applying a new passport on march 23 but unfortunately it took more than three months before it was released. So, because of the long waiting for the new one, I have decided to submit the old one on may 29, 2011.

How can I inform the VO of my new passport? In what process or way? Do I need to submit a copy of my new pp with cover letter? Please help me.
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« Reply #1370 on: September 02, 2011, 08:31:45 pm »

Hi Master Qorax!

I have submitted my work permit application package together with the copy of my passport. since I am frequently traveling from Dubai to Saudi Arabia, my passport is ranning out of empty page. Prior to my submission...I took the chance of applying a new passport on march 23 but unfortunately it took more than three months before it was released. So, because of the long waiting for the new one, I have decided to submit the old one on may 29, 2011.

How can I inform the VO of my new passport? In what process or way? Do I need to submit a copy of my new pp with cover letter? Please help me.

Send them an email asap; and subsequently send your new pp booklet as well, under a cover-letter.
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« Reply #1371 on: September 03, 2011, 02:29:47 am »

Hi Everyone,

I have one question. I submitted my FSW application on July 5, 2011. I did not submit the police clearance certificate. When do I need to submit this? Will I be notified and will I get a deadline to submit these docs?

Can someone please clarify.

Thanks in advance.

Joel.
Once your file is transferred to VO, VO will contact you for the PCC/other docs...Stay put and good luck...Mandie
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IELTS Request: sent with initial application
Med's Request: 06-06-2011
Med's Done....: 28-06-2011
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Passport Req..: Step 1 on 07-09-11, Step 2 on 13-10-11
VISA ISSUED...: 29-10-11

« Reply #1372 on: September 03, 2011, 02:55:57 am »

heay qorax
all of the sudden my ecas status is showing that DECISION MADE
2 days back they added that MEDICALS RECIEVED
kindly reply me what does that means
i am curious about this
thanks
aamir warsi
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File Transfer...: 30-03-2010
Med's Request: 04-07-2011
Med's Done....: 18-07-2011
Interview........: 09-06-2011    Int Result: More Docs Request
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« Reply #1373 on: September 03, 2011, 08:43:30 am »

Hi Qorax,
1 small query again..
I have rcvd RPRF receipt today.
Does it mean that they have encashed the DD?
Is there any time limit to get the PP back with visa once the RPRF receipt is rcvd?
Thanks a lot once again for your humble help.
Good Time Ahead.
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« Reply #1374 on: September 03, 2011, 09:28:01 am »

Disagreement is healthy !

Now to your queries:

1/ my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. since i have heard nothing and the fact that CIC has requested CSIS for a security advice on my application, I have the right to assume that I HAVE PASSED MY MEDICALS. what do you think ?
- YES. Else, by now u'd have also heard from them, if there was a med furtherance requirement.

2/ all of the background and other verification checks by CIC have been completed as well. what do u think ?
- NO. If it was such, then u'd have recd. your PPR.

3/ how long does CSIS take to complete the security checks ? my medicals were delivered on july 4 2011. CSIS received a screening request from CIC on aug 2 2011 and they have responded that it is in process.
CSIS said their procedures include automated record checks, manual records checks and related research and consultations.
- CANNOT BE FORESEEN/OPINED CORRECTLY. Depends on many factors/variants.

4/ may i assume that CSIS screening is the FINAL procedure pending before PPR's and visa stamping ?
- NO. Your security clearance could be sought from many other agencies as well, incl. FBI, Homeland Security, Local Police & Intelligence Agencies. The situation/requirement is quite fluid.

5/ Ecas update MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED does NOT mean that medicals are OK, it means exactly what it says i.e. they have been received by the visa office pending evaluation by a medical officer. what do u think ?

- Usually, this e-Cas is 'only' reflected once the meds have been "seconded" by PMB-Ottawa. Not that they receive it & they log-it on the e-Cas imdtly. However, it also could be that your med reports were pretty simple & straight - which made the 'secondment review' easy.

Qorax

Dear Qorax,

Thanks for your opinions.

My comments on :-

1 / Yes, I agree with you. The DMP told me that everything is fine. Also, given the fact that I have not heard anything from CIC Paris, I must assume that my medicals are OK.

2 / I meant all background and verification checks by CIC ( except the security checks by the CSIS ) have been completed. I have heard that CIC does NOT issue medical requests unless and until the applicant is fully eligible for a PR visa, other than medical and security clearances. I think you misunderstood this question by thinking I may be referring to security checks too.

3 / Thanks for the response. I have heard that CSIS completes all assessments within 30-60 days at most nowadays.

4 / It seems to me that CIC is dependent on american and british intelligence agencies a lot !! I doubt CIC needs anything other than an FBI and Interpol clearances. May be I am wrong.

5 / Yes, I agree with you. The doctor said that my medicals are perfect. So, it did not take time to evaluate my medicals. But why Ottawa ? My visa office is Paris. Paris is also home to Medical Office as it is a Regional Program Center.

But, a bit strange to me. I agree with your response that my medicals may have been evaluated within a week's time and then the Ecas update. Then why did it take so long for the CIC to request CSIS for a security screening ? Is there anything else in between ?

My medicals were done on June 28 2011, delivered on July 4 2011, Ecas updated on July 11 2011 with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. Updated Police Clearances ( from 4 countries - France, USA, United Arab Emirates and Bangladesh ) were also sent june 30 2011 voluntarily.

When do you think I should contact CIC for my application status ?

In your opinion, how long do you think it takes to get PPR after medicals ?
I have lived only in high-tech countries - France, United Arab Emirates and the USA. My country of citizenship is Bangladesh but I have never lived there ( still I have submitted a police clearance from Bangladesh, just in case ). I do NOT want to give CIC any reason to ask me anything additional that could take time.
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« Reply #1375 on: September 03, 2011, 09:50:57 am »

heay qorax
all of the sudden my ecas status is showing that DECISION MADE
2 days back they added that MEDICALS RECIEVED
kindly reply me what does that means
i am curious about this
thanks
aamir warsi

U should be getting your PPR anyday.
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« Reply #1376 on: September 03, 2011, 09:52:26 am »

Hi Qorax,
1 small query again..
I have rcvd RPRF receipt today.
Does it mean that they have encashed the DD?
Is there any time limit to get the PP back with visa once the RPRF receipt is rcvd?
Thanks a lot once again for your humble help.
Good Time Ahead.

It, usually, means that your file is ready for stamping.
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« Reply #1377 on: September 03, 2011, 09:55:07 am »

Dear Qorax,

...My medicals were done on June 28 2011, delivered on July 4 2011, Ecas updated on July 11 2011 with MEDICAL RESULTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED...

In your opinion, how long do you think it takes to get PPR after medicals ?
...

3-5 months from the day the med report was recd @ the VO/RMO.
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« Reply #1378 on: September 03, 2011, 11:57:08 am »



3-5 months from the day the med report was recd  @  the VO/RMO.

Hi qorex

You shared informative message for forum members. There you posted CIC processing stages but not current it was appropriate for pre june applicants. Please can you explain post June processing stages, it will be more helpful for us. Thanks again.

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« Reply #1379 on: September 03, 2011, 01:19:50 pm »

Hi qorex

You shared informative message for forum members. There you posted CIC processing stages but not current it was appropriate for pre june applicants. Please can you explain post June processing stages, it will be more helpful for us. Thanks again.

Regards.   

Beyond the 'filing stage' & till 1st AOR process there's no difference in further steps & timeframes between pre & post-26/6 and the MI-1 or otherwise applicants.

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