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Author Topic: Applications after 26/6 in any NOC CONNECT HERE TO GET THE STATUS  (Read 4000266 times)
indira_prab
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Posts: 2151
Ratings: +251
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 2151 - Architects
App. Filed.......: 16th Oct 2010   BD Encashed...: 25th Oct 2010   PER Received..: 10th Feb 2011
File Transfer...: 3rd March 2011   AOR Received.: 11th March 2011
Med's Request: 31st March 2011 PCC Request..: 31st March 2011 RPRF Request: 31st March 2011
Passport Req..: 31st March 2011 Med's Done....: 6th April 2011     Passports sent: 7th May 2011 RPRF/PCC sent: 7th May 2011   RPRF En-Cashed :17th May 2011
VISA ISSUED...: 27th May 2011
LANDED..........: 10th Sep 2011

« Reply #3105 on: October 27, 2010, 09:20:58 am »

I just confirmed with the bank that the BD had not yet been en-cashed Sad Sad Sad Getting worried Sad Sad Sad if my application is on my way back and lost track Angry Angry Angry like couple of others here.

I still hope it wont be the case, and that CIO may take at least 20 days after the receipt of the application Undecided Undecided Lips sealed Lips sealed

Indira Prabhakaran.
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Cappuccino
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Posts: 4474
Ratings: +393
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 30-Aug-2010
AOR Received.: 15-Dec-2010
IELTS Request: Sent with app - 8.5 band score
Med's Request: 13-Apr-2011
Med's Done....: 19-Apr-2011
Passport Req..: 28-June-2011
VISA ISSUED...: 21-July-2011
LANDED..........: 27-Aug-2011

ECAS
Recd By VO.....: 11-Feb-2011
In Process.......: 15-Mar-2011
Decision Made.: 25-Jun-2011

« Reply #3106 on: October 27, 2010, 09:31:46 am »

I just confirmed with the bank that the BD had not yet been en-cashed Sad Sad Sad Getting worried Sad Sad Sad if my application is on my way back and lost track Angry Angry Angry like couple of others here.

I still hope it wont be the case, and that CIO may take at least 20 days after the receipt of the application Undecided Undecided Lips sealed Lips sealed

Indira Prabhakaran.

Banker's draft will take longer to cash than credit card. Also as we have seen, some applications take longer than others for no explicable reason. Ours took 15 days from when they received it for encashment, when did CIC received your application?

Wayne.
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Amro Elsayed
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Posts: 663
Ratings: +41
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 10-09-2010
Doc's Request.: 10-09-2010
AOR Received.: 06-01-2011
IELTS Request: Sent with the app.
File Transfer...: 10-3-2011
Med's Request: 17-5-2011
Interview........: Waived

« Reply #3107 on: October 27, 2010, 09:49:28 am »

Newbie here....

can I get added to the spreadsheet? Here are my details:

Application sent: October 13, 2010
Application received by CIO (Sydney): October 15th, 2010
NOC: 1122 and 0811
VO: New Delhi
Paid through: Bank MO
PCC: Included in application



my friend you had been added ........ hope to hear good news later


AMro
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indira_prab
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Posts: 2151
Ratings: +251
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 2151 - Architects
App. Filed.......: 16th Oct 2010   BD Encashed...: 25th Oct 2010   PER Received..: 10th Feb 2011
File Transfer...: 3rd March 2011   AOR Received.: 11th March 2011
Med's Request: 31st March 2011 PCC Request..: 31st March 2011 RPRF Request: 31st March 2011
Passport Req..: 31st March 2011 Med's Done....: 6th April 2011     Passports sent: 7th May 2011 RPRF/PCC sent: 7th May 2011   RPRF En-Cashed :17th May 2011
VISA ISSUED...: 27th May 2011
LANDED..........: 10th Sep 2011

« Reply #3108 on: October 27, 2010, 09:55:55 am »

Banker's draft will take longer to cash than credit card. Also as we have seen, some applications take longer than others for no explicable reason. Ours took 15 days from when they received it for encashment, when did CIC received your application?

Wayne.

My application reached on 15th October morning Smiley I completely understand it may take time, but my heart longs for a good news  Wink

Indira Prabhakaran.
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Cappuccino
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Posts: 4474
Ratings: +393
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 30-Aug-2010
AOR Received.: 15-Dec-2010
IELTS Request: Sent with app - 8.5 band score
Med's Request: 13-Apr-2011
Med's Done....: 19-Apr-2011
Passport Req..: 28-June-2011
VISA ISSUED...: 21-July-2011
LANDED..........: 27-Aug-2011

ECAS
Recd By VO.....: 11-Feb-2011
In Process.......: 15-Mar-2011
Decision Made.: 25-Jun-2011

« Reply #3109 on: October 27, 2010, 10:00:01 am »

My application reached on 15th October morning Smiley I completely understand it may take time, but my heart longs for a good news  Wink

Indira Prabhakaran.

Well based on the same timescales as us you might expect it to be cashed around 30th October. Of course this will vary from bank to bank and also how long your completeness check takes (seems that can vary quite a bit).

Certainly I wouldn't worry for a few weeks yet. If it gets to mid-November and still no encashment then I'd maybe give CIC a ring to find out what's going on.

Wayne.
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anil04_10
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Posts: 1334
Ratings: +295
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: New Delhi
NOC Code......: 3113
App. Filed.......: 04 October 2010
AOR Received.: 1st (PER) - 04/02/2011; 2nd - 03/03/2011
IELTS Request: With the application
File Transfer...: 04/02/2011
Med's Request: 17/03/2011
VISA ISSUED...: 25/08/2011
LANDED..........: 16/12/2011

« Reply #3110 on: October 27, 2010, 10:11:33 am »

Newbie here....

can I get added to the spreadsheet? Here are my details:

Application sent: October 13, 2010
Application received by CIO (Sydney): October 15th, 2010
NOC: 1122 and 0811
VO: New Delhi
Paid through: Bank MO
PCC: Included in application

Welcome to this thread ignu ....

You have been added to the New Delhi tracker ...please visit the same and update us with the remaining details

Cheers, Anil
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N/Delhi - https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tNybiwrlKwXBGteBb0zpdCw&authkey=CNqatbgL#gid=0
Cam1234
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« Reply #3111 on: October 27, 2010, 10:38:36 am »

Wayne, the link to the page below supports your view that "complete applications" go through (an initial) eligibility as well. However, if I understand it correctly (these are very confusing manuals), it looks like a final eligibility determination also takes place later, maybe a more stringent one, before they inform the applicant i.e. AOR. Below are segments:

"FSW applications received at the CIO on or after June 26, 2010

The second set of MIs applies to cases received at the CIO on or after June 26, 2010. The CIO will assess complete applications received on or after June 26, 2010, against the MIs to determine whether applicants are eligible for processing. Those determined to be eligible will be placed into processing. Applications that receive a negative determination of eligibility will not be processed and will receive a full refund."

Furthermore:

Final eligibility determination at the CIO

"The CIO will assess the applicant's submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility. To be eligible for processing, the applicant must meet all the criteria described in the MIs. If the application is eligible for processing, the applicant will be informed and the entire application will be forwarded to the visa office requested."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English//resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob218.asp#tphp%20idtphp

In any case, it looks like your understanding of whatever it is they are saying is more accurate, and I stand corrected   Smiley

Regards,
Cam
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Cappuccino
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Posts: 4474
Ratings: +393
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 30-Aug-2010
AOR Received.: 15-Dec-2010
IELTS Request: Sent with app - 8.5 band score
Med's Request: 13-Apr-2011
Med's Done....: 19-Apr-2011
Passport Req..: 28-June-2011
VISA ISSUED...: 21-July-2011
LANDED..........: 27-Aug-2011

ECAS
Recd By VO.....: 11-Feb-2011
In Process.......: 15-Mar-2011
Decision Made.: 25-Jun-2011

« Reply #3112 on: October 27, 2010, 10:47:56 am »

Wayne, the link to the page below supports your view that "complete applications" go through (an initial) eligibility as well. However, if I understand it correctly (these are very confusing manuals), it looks like a final eligibility determination also takes place later, maybe a more stringent one, before they inform the applicant i.e. AOR. Below are segments:

"FSW applications received at the CIO on or after June 26, 2010

The second set of MIs applies to cases received at the CIO on or after June 26, 2010. The CIO will assess complete applications received on or after June 26, 2010, against the MIs to determine whether applicants are eligible for processing. Those determined to be eligible will be placed into processing. Applications that receive a negative determination of eligibility will not be processed and will receive a full refund."

Furthermore:

Final eligibility determination at the CIO

"The CIO will assess the applicant's submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility. To be eligible for processing, the applicant must meet all the criteria described in the MIs. If the application is eligible for processing, the applicant will be informed and the entire application will be forwarded to the visa office requested."

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English//resources/manuals/bulletins/2010/ob218.asp#tphp%20idtphp

In any case, it looks like your understanding of whatever it is they are saying is more accurate, and I stand corrected   Smiley

Regards,
Cam


Right, so what we are saying here is that there are 2 eligibility reviews at CIO?

So this (we think) would make the process:

1) CIO - Completeness check
2) CIO - Encashment of processing fees
3) CIO - 1st eligibility review. If ok then this counts towards the cap
4) CIO - 2nd eligibility review (more stringent), if this is ok then send AOR and submit to VO
5) VO - background checks
6) VO - medical requests
7) VO - passport requests
Cool VO - final decision and issue visa

This would seem to indicate that from June 26th onwards they are placing more processing/work on CIO side and less work at the visa office.

2 eligibility reviews at CIO also might explain why CIC have been telling people that eligiblity reviews have been done, but nobody has received an AOR yet. It may be that these applications are in between 1st and 2nd eligibility reviews.

However, if this were the case I would expect very soon at least a few people to report if they failed the 1st eligibility review. Do you agree this would be the case?

If all this is true, then whereas we will see a longer process at CIC, it should mean things are faster once we eventually make it to the visa office.

Wayne.
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Cam1234
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« Reply #3113 on: October 27, 2010, 11:03:16 am »


However, if this were the case I would expect very soon at least a few people to report if they failed the 1st eligibility review. Do you agree this would be the case?

Wayne.

I don't think anybody has received their applications back saying they have failed the eligibility review. Maybe they will start sending those applications back at the same time they start sending AORs...
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snipper
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Posts: 93
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: MNL
NOC Code......: 3152
App. Filed.......: 04-07-2011
IELTS Request: Sent with application form BS 7.0

« Reply #3114 on: October 27, 2010, 11:19:29 am »

I don't think anybody has received their applications back saying they have failed the eligibility review. Maybe they will start sending those applications back at the same time they start sending AORs...


That would be unfair?! what yah think? what if they rejected you because of your job description? you can revise it and send again the revised documents.
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Cappuccino
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Posts: 4474
Ratings: +393
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: London
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 30-Aug-2010
AOR Received.: 15-Dec-2010
IELTS Request: Sent with app - 8.5 band score
Med's Request: 13-Apr-2011
Med's Done....: 19-Apr-2011
Passport Req..: 28-June-2011
VISA ISSUED...: 21-July-2011
LANDED..........: 27-Aug-2011

ECAS
Recd By VO.....: 11-Feb-2011
In Process.......: 15-Mar-2011
Decision Made.: 25-Jun-2011

« Reply #3115 on: October 27, 2010, 11:24:42 am »


That would be unfair?! what yah think? what if they rejected you because of your job description? you can revise it and send again the revised documents.

Alas very little of this process is actually fair. It's a giant game of musical chairs and some people are left without a chair when the music stops.

All you can do is your best and then cross your fingers for a little luck! Wink

Wayne.
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Cam1234
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« Reply #3116 on: October 27, 2010, 11:35:17 am »


That would be unfair?! what yah think? what if they rejected you because of your job description? you can revise it and send again the revised documents.

I would think that is the exact reason why they would not send it back immediately, because some people who were not qualified under their NOC would make quick changes to qualify and send their applications back... further clogging up the system.

No one really knows what is going on, and I agree, a fair system has certainly not been found...
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Cam1234
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« Reply #3117 on: October 27, 2010, 11:50:49 am »

I would think that is the exact reason why they would not send it back immediately, because some people who were not qualified under their NOC would make quick changes to qualify and send their applications back... further clogging up the system.

No one really knows what is going on, and I agree, a fair system has certainly not been found...

If you read Minister Jason Kenny's speech on June 26, 2010 it says:

"For example, in the category of university instructors, we received several thousand applications in that occupation – just basically people with university degrees who may never have taught as university professors and who have now applied in that category because that's the way to get a positive decision."

The minister calls what has taken place above "abuse" of their immigration system. I think if those applications were sent back quickly, those same applicants would have changed their applications to conform with what CIO wanted, and would send it back...

I don't believe that is what CIO wants and for that reason I believe they hold on to the applications that fail eligibility for a while before responding... this is my opinion only.

Cam

http://www.cic.gc.ca/English///department/media/speeches/2010/2010-06-26.asp

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pun123
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« Reply #3118 on: October 27, 2010, 12:20:23 pm »

Hi

Did anyone call this week to know how much time after CC charged. I know about 2 post last week for 33 weeks news.

If some one is calling now and the application is found entered as per records available in CIC please do check this 33 weeks news.

May be we can get a response for less then 33 weeks or more then that. worth knowing....


Regards
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asoo62
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Posts: 130
Ratings: +3
Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Damascus
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: 28 Sep 2010
AOR Received.: 31 Jan 2011
Med's Request: 6 Apr 2011
Med's Done....: 28 Apr 2011
Passport Req..: 12 Jun 2011

« Reply #3119 on: October 27, 2010, 01:35:39 pm »

Hi all,
Do anyone know how many points is given for specialist physicians? Is that 22 or 25 points?

By the way here are my details:
Application sent: SEP 22th
Application received: SEP 28th
NOC: 3131
MO cashed: OCT 6th
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