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[asbereth]

I just got my PER!!...yipee  

anjuku, congratulations Now, if only Buffalo can act as fast the CIO...

I send email to Centralized Intake Office and insisted I should have the 5 points for adaptability and extracted the related contents from the instruction to prove it.

The 5 points that you insisted you should have were from the two years of study, right? If that's the case, we now know that all applicants under the PhD stream should be entitled for these five points as well. This is good news since all that one needs to have is just a one year of work experience, and good enough IELTS scores, then they would likely have more than 67 points. Expect the 1,000 cap to be filled up really fast next year (if the stream is still there obviously)

[MapleDream]

anjuku, congratulations Now, if only Buffalo can act as fast the CIO...

The 5 points that you insisted you should have were from the two years of study, right? If that's the case, we now know that all applicants under the PhD stream should be entitled for these five points as well. This is good news since all that one needs to have is just a one year of work experience, and good enough IELTS scores, then they would likely have more than 67 points. Expect the 1,000 cap to be filled up really fast next year (if the stream is still there obviously)

I am not very sure whether every PhD student should have this 5 points. There was no reason in the letter to be given for my PER this time. My wife may has three points in her education, but I didn't state that clearly in my application. I don't know which one worked. Anyway, anyone who has similar situation can try. This will cost you nothing except a little waiting time.

[asbereth]

I am not very sure whether every PhD student should have this 5 points. There was no reason in the letter to be given for my PER this time. My wife may has three points in her education, but I didn't state that clearly in my application. I don't know which one worked. Anyway, anyone who has similar situation can try. This will cost you nothing except a little waiting time.

In your appeal letter, did you ask for reconsideration of your wife's education, or was it the previous study in Canada? I'm assuming that there was nothing you could do about your spouse's education level if you did not provide enough evidence the first time, so it had to be the previous study adaptability points.

[MapleDream]

In your appeal letter, did you ask for reconsideration of your wife's education, or was it the previous study in Canada? I'm assuming that there was nothing you could do about your spouse's education level if you did not provide enough evidence the first time, so it had to be the previous study adaptability points.

The reason why I am not very sure is that it states clearly in R83 of IRPA that one has to complete the program to earn this adaptability points, though it contradicts the instruction of OP 6, Federal Skilled Workers, which is in 12.16.(b) Adaptability, page 44. You can read these two parts, and you will find they are confusing.

About my wife's education, I did state her background, but as you guessed I didn't submit any official document to support it. Some who had similar situation as my wife did obtain the education points, some didn't. I don't know the reason.

This is why I feel weird for the whole stuff. I don't know what make them change the decision.

[asbereth]

The reason why I am not very sure is that it states clearly in R83 of IRPA that one has to complete the program to earn this adaptability points, though it contradicts the instruction of OP 6, Federal Skilled Workers, which is in 12.16.(b) Adaptability, page 44. You can read these two parts, and you will find they are confusing.

About my wife's education, I did state her background, but as you guessed I didn't submit any official document to support it. Some who had similar situation as my wife did obtain the education points, some didn't. I don't know the reason.

This is why I feel weird for the whole stuff. I don't know what make them change the decision.

That's interesting. There could be different ways to interpret the passages in the Instruction Guide, and it was so ambiguous that it could be interpreted in contradictory ways. It does seem that we do need to have completed the program, though apparently they seem to be under the impression that it is possible to complete a program, yet not obtaining any credentials upon its completion (the most confusing part).

All the same, we know that you only had 64 points without any adaptability points, so after the appeal, they must have given you at the very least another 3 points. The thing is, there is another user here (I believe it was beishidashuo) that appealed after his NER precisely due to the lack of 5 adaptability study points, and got PER as well, so it seems to me that the 5 points should be awarded for those who have completed two years of full-time study, regardless whether the program has been completed or not. And because they mentioned in the NER letter that they would not accept any new information, most likely you could not have done anything regarding your wife's education, so the extra points points must have come from previous study in Canada (whatever that really means).

If this was the case, then hopefully from now on, they would just automatically award the five points to all PhD stream applicants, so the new applicants won't have to go through the process of appealing, just because some officers interpret the instruction guide differently than some others.

Anyway, I should not hijack your happiness (or relief?) with my non-sensical rant and pedantry, so hearty congratulations once again

[MapleDream]

That's interesting. There could be different ways to interpret the passages in the Instruction Guide, and it was so ambiguous that it could be interpreted in contradictory ways. It does seem that we do need to have completed the program, though apparently they seem to be under the impression that it is possible to complete a program, yet not obtaining any credentials upon its completion (the most confusing part).

All the same, we know that you only had 64 points without any adaptability points, so after the appeal, they must have given you at the very least another 3 points. The thing is, there is another user here (I believe it was beishidashuo) that appealed after his NER precisely due to the lack of 5 adaptability study points, and got PER as well, so it seems to me that the 5 points should be awarded for those who have completed two years of full-time study, regardless whether the program has been completed or not. And because they mentioned in the NER letter that they would not accept any new information, most likely you could not have done anything regarding your wife's education, so the extra points points must have come from previous study in Canada (whatever that really means).

If this was the case, then hopefully from now on, they would just automatically award the five points to all PhD stream applicants, so the new applicants won't have to go through the process of appealing, just because some officers interpret the instruction guide differently than some others.

Anyway, I should not hijack your happiness (or relief?) with my non-sensical rant and pedantry, so hearty congratulations once again

Is there another guy who got PER as well after appealing his NER? I thought I was the first one.  .If so, that may means that all eligible PhD students should have this adaptability points. This may help a lot of students who need more points in work experience or language.

[hadikhan64]

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know that being a PhD student for two years and having a letter from your boss exclaiming 37.5hrs/week would suffice to get your PER. I did and I'm sure you guys do as well. So, was wondering what is next after getting PER? Is there any body out there to give me his/her two cents.

Thanks

[anjuku]

This is crazy fast dude! Congrats

hi tyrus..could you please include me in the tracker as well??

[anjuku]

hi guys,
I got my PER on April 25th but i still can't check my application status online 
is this normal??

[asbereth]

Is there another guy who got PER as well after appealing his NER? I thought I was the first one.  .If so, that may means that all eligible PhD students should have this adaptability points. This may help a lot of students who need more points in work experience or language.

Ya, as I mentioned, beishidashuo got his PER after he appealed his NER I believe s.guo82 will follow suit too. Hopefully from now on, they will start awarding the 5 adaptability points to all PhD stream applicants.

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know that being a PhD student for two years and having a letter from your boss exclaiming 37.5hrs/week would suffice to get your PER. I did and I'm sure you guys do as well. So, was wondering what is next after getting PER? Is there any body out there to give me his/her two cents.

Thanks

Hi hadikhan64, can you also share your timeline with us? I'm assuming that you also only included TA/RA experience?

hi guys,
I got my PER on April 25th but i still can't check my application status online  
is this normal??

Hi anjuku, I don't think this will be a problem. The CIO has gotten so fast these days that they issued PER's before the online system even caught up. I think it also happened to GeoCanadian, which got his PER so fast that his online status only showed changes weeks after he got his PER. It used to be that applicants would get their PER's after months, so their online status would get updated way before that, but things have changed for the better it seems

[sam001]

Hello everyone,
My application received on 12th April, CC charged on 17th April, CIC shows the application status as "In process", but I did not get any email so far.
Does that mean they have reviewed my application and I am eligible or still I have to wait for the email??

[asbereth]

Hello everyone,
My application received on 12th April, CC charged on 17th April, CIC shows the application status as "In process", but I did not get any email so far.
Does that mean they have reviewed my application and I am eligible or still I have to wait for the email??

Just give it a time. You should receive your PER soon. Lately, some straightforward applications got their PER's a day after their credit card got charged, but some others require longer time. If you submitted everything as required (and I'm assuming you have the 'good academic standing' note on your letter of attestation from graduate studies office, not department?), you should expect to receive the PER email soon. Good luck

[sam001]

Just give it a time. You should receive your PER soon. Lately, some straightforward applications got their PER's a day after their credit card got charged, but some others require longer time. If you submitted everything as required (and I'm assuming you have the 'good academic standing' note on your letter of attestation from graduate studies office, not department?), you should expect to receive the PER email soon. Good luck

Hi, Thanks.
Yes, I have included those notes. I have applied along with one of my friends with same documents. His CC was charged same day as mine, got his PER very next day. I was wondering if I have dropped the email somehow, as the status is updated in the CIC website. btw is there any chance of  NER after showing "In process"??

[mkrp21]

Applications received toward the overall cap: 635 of 1,000

[websphereguy]

Got my PER today, 30th Apr. But not reflected in ecas as nothing came out of it yet.