All those planning to apply on July 01, 2012 (all NOC's).

[pharmacistfarhan]

Hello all,
I am new to the forum and just found this thread. I was thinking when I have been, how come I didn't find you guys earlier... I am so late. As I have postponed my plan because for a long time, almost gave up actually... and this thread could be an enlightenment for me.

I need to make a statutory declaration that I am not currently licensed anywhere in the world. Can anyone help me with the format?

Thanks a lot...

Which country do you belong to........I can guide you with reference to Pakistani norms...

[Sajeels]

Hi Farhan:

I am surprised to see you being a future teller as today CIC confirmed your prediction and spouse IELTS report will award 5 points to the principal applicant.

I wish you best of luck to a successful processing and PEBC exam. To know further from your experiences, CIC also confirmed to have credentials evaluated before sending the application. I am also a pharmacist but not affiliated with any hospital or retail level experience rather having Industrial pharmacist work experience at a pharmaceutical company. Can you please guide me the PEBC credential assessment process, also please guide since I have no work experience as a practising pharmacist do i need to have PEBC assessment or simple ICES evaluation.

thanks for your kind consideration.

regards:

Sajeel 

Though I didn't read it in any official website of CIC, but as a general & strong belief of pplz, CIC would rather impose this condition - as if you claim points for spouse education / credentials, in that case they would also required the spouse to have IELTS taken with some (majority say 5+ bands over all) good band score.
Would again say, its not a definite or confirm statement, I just went through such type of blogs.............God knows better. On my side, at least I'm making my spouse to take IELTS in Sep this year.

[sterileinjection]

hello pharmacistirfan!!
plz thru some light on the  new proposed changes is it good or bad??and secondly what wll be the crieteria for scoring ilets each module(PA+SPOUSE)

[ashokp23]

I do not Know the changes are good or Bad.... But One thing is that Still I qualify for the Pass mark As I turn 41 (1972/Jul) and Edu PhD and Experience 10 years and IELTS 6.5 (S7,R6,W6.5,L6.5) and I am thinking to retake IELTS and ask my spouse to appear for IELTS to increase the points................. Any suggestions please when will we get a clear picture abt the changes.....
Shall I proceed now for the Pharmacy Board Document Evaluation.... I am bit hesitant to start the Credential Evaluation.... As on now there is no clear picture abt the evaluating body...Any one Please help me on this
Ashok

[Sajeels]

Dear FARHAN...

Please guide us all as you have already gone through PEBC evaluation process. Please confirm if some has a bpharm degree of 4 years...than how his credentials will be evaluated by PEBC....? Currenty its 5 years program from 2004 in my country and in canada its also a 5 years degree.

Please respond.

Regards

Sajeel

I do not Know the changes are good or Bad.... But One thing is that Still I qualify for the Pass mark As I turn 41 (1972/Jul) and Edu PhD and Experience 10 years and IELTS 6.5 (S7,R6,W6.5,L6.5) and I am thinking to retake IELTS and ask my spouse to appear for IELTS to increase the points................. Any suggestions please when will we get a clear picture abt the changes.....
Shall I proceed now for the Pharmacy Board Document Evaluation.... I am bit hesitant to start the Credential Evaluation.... As on now there is no clear picture abt the evaluating body...Any one Please help me on this
Ashok

[badalpharm]

Hi All,

I have done B.Pharm of 4 years from India.
IT is Valid. I have received positive credential evaluation and also passed Evaluating exam.

Badal

Dear FARHAN...

Please guide us all as you have already gone through PEBC evaluation process. Please confirm if some has a bpharm degree of 4 years...than how his credentials will be evaluated by PEBC....? Currenty its 5 years program from 2004 in my country and in canada its also a 5 years degree.

Please respond.

Regards

Sajeel

[Sajeels]

Hi badal!

 Thanks for the update! A sigh of relief.... however what points you assume theory would award you for a 4 year degree...20 or 22 ?

Thanks once again.

Regards

Sajeel

Hi All,

I have done B.Pharm of 4 years from India.
IT is Valid. I have received positive credential evaluation and also passed Evaluating exam.

Badal

[pharmacistfarhan]

Today, the official version has been published in Canada Gazette..........


The following table outlines the proposed amendments to the FSWC points system.

Current Points
System Grid
   

Proposed Changes

First Official Language:

Maximum 16 points

No official language ability required
   

First Official Language:

Maximum 24 points

New Mandatory Minimum

Basic

Approx. CLB/NCLC 4 or 5
   

Minimum threshold in all abilities

Initially set at CLB/NCLC 7

1 pt per ability to max. of 2
   

4 pts per ability
     

Understands the main points and important details of a conversation and can write routine business correspondence; able to participate in small group discussions and express opinions and reservations about a topic.

Moderate

Approx. CLB/NCLC 6 or 7
   

Threshold + 1 CLB/NCLC level

2 pts per ability
   

5 pts per ability
     

CLB/NCLC 8

Understands technical conversations and reading material in their line of work; asks questions, analyzes and compares information in order to make decisions.

High

CLB/NCLC 8 +
   

Threshold + 2 or more CLB/NCLC levels

4 pts per ability
   

6 pts per ability
     

CLB/NCLC 9

Participates in business meetings and debates; understands a broad range of general and abstract topics; writes formal and informal notes and summary documents.

Second Official Language:

Maximum 8 points
   

8
   

Second Official Language:

Maximum 4 points
CLB/NCLC 5 in all abilities
   

4

Age:

Maximum 10 points
        

Age:

Maximum 12 points
   

21 to 49 yrs
   

10
   

18 to 35 yrs
   

12

20 or 50 yrs
   

8
   

36 yrs
   

11

19 or 51 yrs
   

6
   

37 yrs
   

10

18 or 52 yrs
   

4
   

Less one point per year
   

...

17 or 53 yrs
   

2
   

46 yrs
   

1

<17 or >53 yrs
   

0
   

47 and over
   

0

Work Experience:

Maximum 21 points
        

Work Experience:

Maximum 15 points
   

1 yr
   

15
   

1 yr
   

9

2 yrs
   

17
   

2–3 yrs
   

11

3 yrs
   

19
   

4–5 yrs
   

13

4+ yrs
   

21
   

6+ yrs
   

15

Education:

Maximum 25 points
        

Education:

Maximum 25 points

Points will be awarded based on an assessment of educational credentials by a designated organization, indicating the foreign educational credential's equivalent in Canada.

Master's or Doctoral level (+17 yrs)
   

25
   

Doctoral level
   

25

Two or more credentials at the bachelor's level OR 3-year post-secondary credential (+15 yrs)
   

22
   

Master's level or professional degree
   

23

Bachelor's (2 years or more) OR 2-year post-secondary credential (+14 yrs)
   

20
   

Two or more post-secondary credentials, one of which is a three-year or longer post-secondary credential
   

22

Bachelor's (1 year) OR 1-year post-secondary credential (+13 yrs)
   

15
   

Three-year or longer post-secondary credential
   

21

One-year post-secondary credential (+12 yrs)
   

12
   

Two-year post-secondary credential
   

19

Secondary school
   

5
   

One-year post-secondary credential
   

15

Secondary school not completed
   

0
   

Secondary school
   

5

Arranged Employment:

10 points
        

Arranged Employment:

10 points
   
          

In order to receive points for arranged employment, applicants will need to have a LMO from HRSDC, plus an indeterminate job offer. In some cases, applicants will be LMO exempt and will only require the indeterminate job offer. New measures, including introducing a labour market assessment and genuineness elements in the regulations, are expected to increase program integrity, improve labour market responsiveness, and streamline processing for employers.

Adaptability:

Maximum 10 points
        

Adaptability:

Maximum 10 points
   

Spousal/partner education
   

5
   

PA Previous Work in Canada (min. 1 yr at NOC 0, A, B)
   

10

Previous Study in Canada PA or spouse/partner
   

5
   

Or a combination of...

Previous study in Canada — PA
   

5

Previous Work in Canada PA or spouse/partner
   

5
   

Previous study in Canada — accompanying spouse/partner
   

5

Relative in Canada
   

5
   

Previous work in Canada — accompanying spouse/partner
   

5

Arranged Employment
   

5
   

Arranged employment
   

5
          

Revised:

Rel. in Canada (18 years or over)
   

5
          

Added:

Accompanying spouse/partner's official language (CLB/NCLC 4)
   

5
          

Eliminated:

Accompanying spouse/ Partner education
   

3 to 5

Pass mark
   

67
   

Pass mark
   

67

[pharmacistfarhan]

Dear FARHAN...

Please guide us all as you have already gone through PEBC evaluation process. Please confirm if some has a bpharm degree of 4 years...than how his credentials will be evaluated by PEBC....? Currenty its 5 years program from 2004 in my country and in canada its also a 5 years degree.

Please respond.

Regards

Sajeel

Yeah, I'd gotten a positive PEBC documents (credentials) evaluation report. I've also completed 4 years B Pharm degree from Karachi University Pakistan and it worked. For that you may visit www.pebc.ca

[pharmacistfarhan]

hello pharmacistirfan!!
plz thru some light on the  new proposed changes is it good or bad??and secondly what wll be the crieteria for scoring ilets each module(PA+SPOUSE)

Well, personally, I feel the new changes sound good to many. They've provided very flexible points for age and work experience. The only thing that the newly introduced is spouse language - but that was expected......so I suggest all to have their spouses language testing done with some good score. Uptill now, they've not cleared that what would be the minimum threshold for language ability.
Credentials assessment was being strongly expected and what they did............so every body who is planning to lodge the PR visa in 2013 should have their credentials assessed. At least I'd gotten a positive evaluation of my credentials.

[siddharth_pharma84]

Well, personally, I feel the new changes sound good to many. They've provided very flexible points for age and work experience. The only thing that the newly introduced is spouse language - but that was expected......so I suggest all to have their spouses language testing done with some good score. Uptill now, they've not cleared that what would be the minimum threshold for language ability.
Credentials assessment was being strongly expected and what they did............so every body who is planning to lodge the PR visa in 2013 should have their credentials assessed. At least I'd gotten a positive evaluation of my credentials.

farhan   kindly suggest you opinion on work experience . A person must have canadian work experience or  any where  to gain experience points . Just logged in and confused about new system

[Sajeels]

Dear Farhan!

I am also a pharmacist from KU Pakistan
Nice to meet you

I have sent you a PM, please acknowledge and oblige by extending your kind support.

Best regards

[pharmacistfarhan]

farhan   kindly suggest you opinion on work experience . A person must have canadian work experience or  any where  to gain experience points . Just logged in and confused about new system

No, its anywhere in the world............as for Canadian experience, they've Canadian Experience Class - that is entirely different.

[pharmacistfarhan]

farhan   kindly suggest you opinion on work experience . A person must have canadian work experience or  any where  to gain experience points . Just logged in and confused about new system

Have you gotten PEBC result letter..........

[pharmacistfarhan]

I do not Know the changes are good or Bad.... But One thing is that Still I qualify for the Pass mark As I turn 41 (1972/Jul) and Edu PhD and Experience 10 years and IELTS 6.5 (S7,R6,W6.5,L6.5) and I am thinking to retake IELTS and ask my spouse to appear for IELTS to increase the points................. Any suggestions please when will we get a clear picture abt the changes.....
Shall I proceed now for the Pharmacy Board Document Evaluation.... I am bit hesitant to start the Credential Evaluation.... As on now there is no clear picture abt the evaluating body...Any one Please help me on this
Ashok

Its now clear that credentials assessment is a must...........for pharmacy the assessing body is PEBC. So, don't wait any more and apply now, as PEBC take 2.5 to 3 months to get your documents assessed. In my case they took 3 months.