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« Reply #3435 on: February 17, 2012, 01:05:46 am »

Dear Qorax,
Good Day.Pls let me know that what kind of questions the immigration officer will ask me at the port of entry.I am principal applicant.Will he ask any questions to my spouse or my kids.
Thanks,
Harmeet

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ENF4 (Port Of Entry Examinations)

5.3. Primary and secondary examinations
All persons seeking to enter Canada must appear for an examination to determine whether they have a right to enter Canada or may become authorized to enter and remain in Canada. The examination process at a port of entry may include a primary and a secondary examination. Primary examinations are completed by a BSO at PIL. In some remote ports, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) officer may complete the primary examination. Immigration Secondary examinations are conducted by a BSO at Immigration Secondary following a referral from a BSO at PIL.

7. Primary inspection line (PIL) examinations
The examination process usually commences upon the arrival of a person at a port of entry. This may be a land border, an airport, a marine harbour or any other place designated as a port of entry. BSOs at PIL are delegated the authority to conduct the initial immigration examination of persons seeking entry into Canada. BSOs at PIL administer legislation and programs by providing a wide range of inspection, examination and enforcement activities on behalf of many government departments and agencies.

7.4. Responsibilities of primary examining officers
BSOs conducting primary examinations are responsible for:

• questioning persons and reviewing documentation to determine whether persons have a right to enter Canada (Canadians, permanent residents and registered Indians) or are foreign nationals who may be authorized to enter Canada as temporary residents;
• determining whether or not persons seeking entry into Canada are persons seeking entry into Canada as permanent residents;
• authorizing persons to enter Canada and stamping passports when required;
• referring persons for a more detailed Immigration Secondary examination when appropriate,in accordance with the Immigration Secondary Referral List; and
• authorizing foreign nationals to leave Canada or directing them to return to the USA at ports where there are no BSOs present at the Immigration Secondary.

7.5. Primary examination questions
Primary examination questions are designed to elicit essential information about citizenship, residency, intention, employment, length of stay and identity as quickly as possible. Normally, the examining BSO at PIL begins by asking one or more of the six primary questions below. Under most circumstances, a BSO at PIL does not need to ask all questions of all travellers.

ISSUE......................QUESTION
1. Citizenship............What is your citizenship?
Rationale: By asking this question first, the BSO can identify persons who may enter Canada by right. It is rare that persons who have a right to enter Canada would be referred to Immigration Secondary.
If the person is not Canadian, this question enables the BSO to identify those persons who may require a passport or a visa to enter Canada. If the person has a machine-readable passport, the BSO does not necessarily have to ask about citizenship. A passport reader, however, is no substitute for a good verbal examination.

2. Residency.............Where do you reside?
Rationale: This question helps the BSO to determine the passport and visa requirements of foreign nationals. By determining residency, the BSO can eliminate from an Immigration Secondary examination those travellers who are permanent residents of Canada and who may enter Canada by right. If the person is a permanent resident, the BSO may ask the supplementary question: “How long have you been away?” The BSO at PIL must refer for Immigration Secondary examination all permanent residents who may not comply with the residency obligation of A28, which requires permanent residents to reside in Canada for at least 730 days out of every five- year period to maintain their status. The possible loss of permanent resident status under section A46 can be further explored at a secondary examination.
3. Intention...............What is the purpose of your trip to Canada?
Rationale: Once the BSO determines that the foreign national may not come into Canada by right, they must establish why the person is coming to Canada. By asking this question, they can identify the need for a referral to CBSA Immigration Secondary for control purposes (for example, to become a permanent resident, to work or study).
4. Employment..........Do you intend to take or seek employment while in Canada?
Rationale: If the BSO has not yet determined whether the person is coming to Canada to work, this question ensures that employment opportunities for Canadians are protected and that the person will comply with relevant employment regulations.
5. Length of stay........How long do you intend to stay in Canada?
Rationale: BSOs may allow persons to enter Canada for a stay of up to six months and should stamp the passport of persons who are otherwise admissible. Persons who are intending to remain in Canada for longer than six months should be referred for a secondary examination.
6. Identity................What is your name?
Rationale: If the BSO has any reason to doubt the person's identity, they will ask for the person's name. A comparison can then be made with the person's documents to determine if the name given is the same as the name in the document, or in the case of an aircraft passenger, the same as the one on the E 311 form.

The BSO at PIL may ask additional questions as warranted but usually does not conduct in-depth examinations. This would create line-ups and delays for the travelling public. A BSO at PIL who doubts the bona fides of a person or believes that a detailed examination may be in order should refer the person to an Immigration Secondary examination.

8. Secondary examinations
An Immigration Secondary examination is usually initiated by a referral from BSOs at PIL. It can also result from a referral from a BSO such as a Disembarkation and Roving Team (DART) member, who has boarded and inspected an airplane, a bus, train or ship before any of the passengers have presented themselves at PIL. An Immigration Secondary examination is usually conducted by a BSO in the Immigration Secondary area but may be conducted by a BSO at Customs Secondary if no BSO at Immigration Secondary is available at the port of entry.

8.3. Responsibilities of examining BSOs at Immigration Secondary
BSOs conducting Immigration Secondary examinations are responsible for facilitating the entry of Canadians, registered Indians and permanent residents as well as bona fide foreign nationals and for denying entry to persons who are inadmissible and/or likely to constitute a threat to the safety, security and good order of Canadian society.

Responsibilities of such officers include:
• examining persons seeking entry to Canada to determine admissibility;
• facilitating the entry of Canadians, permanent residents and registered Indians;
• authorizing foreign nationals to enter Canada as temporary or permanent residents and issuing documents where appropriate;
• receiving refugee claims and determining eligibility to make such claims;
• reporting persons who are inadmissible;
• reviewing inadmissibility reports;
• issuing removal orders, where appropriate, to inadmissible persons;
• referring cases to the Immigration Division, where appropriate, for an admissibility hearing;
• authorizing an inadmissible person to enter Canada on a permit;
• denying entry to inadmissible persons, arranging for their removal and confirming their departure;
• allowing persons who are inadmissible, to voluntarily withdraw their application; and
• arresting persons who have committed a serious infraction of the law.
Unquote

BOTTOMLINE:
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the fact remains that the POE interview/examination is done in a suave, soft & friendly manner. The attitude of the BSOs are to Welcome you into Canada - not to ware you off. Our intention should be to remain cool & calm, and answer the BSO in a polite/gentle manner... with a clear conscience & be truthful. The entire thing should be over in 20-30 minutes.

Hope that helped.
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« Reply #3436 on: February 17, 2012, 02:18:13 am »

Hi Qorax,

I am regular follower of this forum.... I understand u were in Dubai now in Canada... How do u manage to take time out to answer everybody's question without getting irritated becos i see many a people r asking the same question instead of going through the forum.....

Seriously, ur help is highly appreciated.... Hats off man..... Keep up[ the good work...
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« Reply #3437 on: February 17, 2012, 04:04:44 am »

Good afternoon Sir Qorax, Im just wondering why my son"s require to take his medication for 9 mos considering his result in Xray is negative..ONly in skin test he got positive..But ive read in other forum they only require 6mos treatment & other is less considering they are positive for PTB..Its really bothering me bacause our application takes long because of this..The embassy require my son to finish his treatment before they come up with their final review..I just dont know what"s our DMP report to the embassy..
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« Reply #3438 on: February 17, 2012, 04:56:46 am »


Dear qorax I am waiting for your reply

Today i got medicals and additional documents request from CHC LONDON , now my question are.


1. My wife is in london on student visa and i am in pakistan now it is possible that i done my medicals in pakistan and my wife done medicals in uk.

2.My wife is in london for last 3 months uk police certificate is neccessary for her or not?.

They requested us for Pakistan, UK Police certificate.


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Visa Office......: london
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Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #3439 on: February 17, 2012, 06:21:07 am »

Dear qorax I am waiting for your reply

Today i got medicals and additional documents request from CHC LONDON , now my question are.


1. My wife is in london on student visa and i am in pakistan now it is possible that i done my medicals in pakistan and my wife done medicals in uk.

2.My wife is in london for last 3 months uk police certificate is neccessary for her or not?.

They requested us for Pakistan, UK Police certificate.


Thanks.


1. Yes it is possible.

2. Police certificate is not necessary from UK if she had stayed for less than 6 months but if they have asked then provide the one.
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App. Filed.......: Dec 2009
Doc's Request.: Feb 2010
AOR Received.: July 2010
IELTS Request: submitted with complete file
File Transfer...: Got refused in March 2012 and reopen on reconsideration request(13 june 2012)
Med's Request: updated document request received along with RPRF...16-July 2012...submitted on 23rd of August 2012
Med's Done....: received another updated docs request on 2nd of Oct 2012: sent on 16th Oct
Interview........: Medical request received on 05/11/2012: MEDICAL Done on 14th Nov 2012

« Reply #3440 on: February 17, 2012, 07:32:42 am »

Dear qorax I am waiting for your reply

Today i got medicals and additional documents request from CHC LONDON , now my question are.


1. My wife is in london on student visa and i am in pakistan now it is possible that i done my medicals in pakistan and my wife done medicals in uk.

2.My wife is in london for last 3 months uk police certificate is neccessary for her or not?.

They requested us for Pakistan, UK Police certificate.


Thanks.


congrats man....wish you all the best
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« Reply #3441 on: February 17, 2012, 08:56:55 am »

Hi Qorax,

I am regular follower of this forum.... I understand u were in Dubai now in Canada... How do u manage to take time out to answer everybody's question without getting irritated becos i see many a people r asking the same question instead of going through the forum.....

Seriously, ur help is highly appreciated.... Hats off man..... Keep up[ the good work...

Thanx. And yet many complain that I'm not good enough.
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« Reply #3442 on: February 17, 2012, 09:01:45 am »

Good afternoon Sir Qorax, Im just wondering why my son"s require to take his medication for 9 mos considering his result in Xray is negative..ONly in skin test he got positive..But ive read in other forum they only require 6mos treatment & other is less considering they are positive for PTB..Its really bothering me bacause our application takes long because of this..The embassy require my son to finish his treatment before they come up with their final review..I just dont know what"s our DMP report to the embassy..

I perfectly understand ur agony, but the onus of which rests with ur DMP. If s/he didn't send a 'clarified report' CIC could hardly do anything about it. I'm sure what ur DMP is telling u - and what s/he wrote in their report - isn't the same. 'Coz, in all usual circumstances of 'inactive TB', only there would be a sputum culture, and that takes only 8-weeks.

Qorax
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« Reply #3443 on: February 17, 2012, 09:06:26 am »

Dear qorax I am waiting for your reply

Today i got medicals and additional documents request from CHC LONDON , now my question are.


1. My wife is in london on student visa and i am in pakistan now it is possible that i done my medicals in pakistan and my wife done medicals in uk.

2.My wife is in london for last 3 months uk police certificate is neccessary for her or not?.

They requested us for Pakistan, UK Police certificate.

Thanks.


Hi,

CB has replied to u correctly...

1. Meds can be done anywhere around the globe, albeit thru a DMP. And it's perfectly alright to 'split' the family's meds... undertaken in different cities/nations. The end result is always 'linked' by the CIC via the RMO route. U have nothing to worry.

2. No, she doesn't require the UK-PCC, as explained by CB. However, if u had resided there [more than 6-months] - u need to send urs.

Good luck.
Qorax
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Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: london
Pre-Assessed..: Yes
App. Filed.......: 10-06-2011
Doc's Request.: Sent with first application
AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #3444 on: February 17, 2012, 09:33:24 am »

Hi,

CB has replied to u correctly...

1. Meds can be done anywhere around the globe, albeit thru a DMP. And it's perfectly alright to 'split' the family's meds... undertaken in different cities/nations. The end result is always 'linked' by the CIC via the RMO route. U have nothing to worry.

2. No, she doesn't require the UK-PCC, as explained by CB. However, if u had resided there [more than 6-months] - u need to send urs.

Good luck.
Qorax

Thanks Qorax and calling me CB (cocknbull)... Smiley
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« Reply #3445 on: February 17, 2012, 09:36:26 am »

Thanks Qorax and calling me CB (cocknbull)... Smiley

Yep, I wasn't comfortable with ur acronym.
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« Reply #3446 on: February 17, 2012, 09:57:47 am »

Sir Qorax,

The person not on the forum asking you;

" I sent my documents to London on 6th june 2010,with NOC 0213, from Pakistan,
  Can you estimate the timeline for MR and for Visa?? please."
 
  Mr. Khurram.
  With Regards. 
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AOR Received.: PER 15-08-2011
IELTS Request: sent
File Transfer...: In Process since 9-01-2012
Med's Request: 09-10-2012
Med's Done....: 15-10-2012, Medical line added 01-11-12
Interview........: Waived
Passport Req..: PPR1 01-11-2012, Decision made. 04-11-12, PPR2 13-11-2012
VISA ISSUED...: 27-11-2012
LANDED..........: 15-03-2013

« Reply #3447 on: February 17, 2012, 10:05:22 am »

Yep, I wasn't comfortable with ur acronym.

Sir, sorry to disturb and intervene in your attention, here is how cock and Bull story originated

A cock and bull story - the meaning and origin of this saying.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/cock%20and%20bull%20story.html

A cock and bull story

Meaning

A fanciful and unbelievable tale.
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NOC Code......: 3113
App. Filed.......: 17/11/2010
AOR Received.: received on 28/02/2011
IELTS Request: sent with documents
File Transfer...: 27/03/2011
Med's Request: 22/08/2011
Med's Done....: 15/09/2011  Medical received on 11/11/11
Passport Req..: 11/4/2012
VISA ISSUED...: 12/5/2012 get passports back on 19/5/2012

« Reply #3448 on: February 17, 2012, 10:19:39 am »

Very illuminating..Keep the good work captain Smiley

Quote/Extract from:
ENF4 (Port Of Entry Examinations)

5.3. Primary and secondary examinations
All persons seeking to enter Canada must appear for an examination to determine whether they have a right to enter Canada or may become authorized to enter and remain in Canada. The examination process at a port of entry may include a primary and a secondary examination. Primary examinations are completed by a BSO at PIL. In some remote ports, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) officer may complete the primary examination. Immigration Secondary examinations are conducted by a BSO at Immigration Secondary following a referral from a BSO at PIL.

7. Primary inspection line (PIL) examinations
The examination process usually commences upon the arrival of a person at a port of entry. This may be a land border, an airport, a marine harbour or any other place designated as a port of entry. BSOs at PIL are delegated the authority to conduct the initial immigration examination of persons seeking entry into Canada. BSOs at PIL administer legislation and programs by providing a wide range of inspection, examination and enforcement activities on behalf of many government departments and agencies.

7.4. Responsibilities of primary examining officers
BSOs conducting primary examinations are responsible for:

• questioning persons and reviewing documentation to determine whether persons have a right to enter Canada (Canadians, permanent residents and registered Indians) or are foreign nationals who may be authorized to enter Canada as temporary residents;
• determining whether or not persons seeking entry into Canada are persons seeking entry into Canada as permanent residents;
• authorizing persons to enter Canada and stamping passports when required;
• referring persons for a more detailed Immigration Secondary examination when appropriate,in accordance with the Immigration Secondary Referral List; and
• authorizing foreign nationals to leave Canada or directing them to return to the USA at ports where there are no BSOs present at the Immigration Secondary.

7.5. Primary examination questions
Primary examination questions are designed to elicit essential information about citizenship, residency, intention, employment, length of stay and identity as quickly as possible. Normally, the examining BSO at PIL begins by asking one or more of the six primary questions below. Under most circumstances, a BSO at PIL does not need to ask all questions of all travellers.

ISSUE......................QUESTION
1. Citizenship............What is your citizenship?
Rationale: By asking this question first, the BSO can identify persons who may enter Canada by right. It is rare that persons who have a right to enter Canada would be referred to Immigration Secondary.
If the person is not Canadian, this question enables the BSO to identify those persons who may require a passport or a visa to enter Canada. If the person has a machine-readable passport, the BSO does not necessarily have to ask about citizenship. A passport reader, however, is no substitute for a good verbal examination.

2. Residency.............Where do you reside?
Rationale: This question helps the BSO to determine the passport and visa requirements of foreign nationals. By determining residency, the BSO can eliminate from an Immigration Secondary examination those travellers who are permanent residents of Canada and who may enter Canada by right. If the person is a permanent resident, the BSO may ask the supplementary question: “How long have you been away?” The BSO at PIL must refer for Immigration Secondary examination all permanent residents who may not comply with the residency obligation of A28, which requires permanent residents to reside in Canada for at least 730 days out of every five- year period to maintain their status. The possible loss of permanent resident status under section A46 can be further explored at a secondary examination.
3. Intention...............What is the purpose of your trip to Canada?
Rationale: Once the BSO determines that the foreign national may not come into Canada by right, they must establish why the person is coming to Canada. By asking this question, they can identify the need for a referral to CBSA Immigration Secondary for control purposes (for example, to become a permanent resident, to work or study).
4. Employment..........Do you intend to take or seek employment while in Canada?
Rationale: If the BSO has not yet determined whether the person is coming to Canada to work, this question ensures that employment opportunities for Canadians are protected and that the person will comply with relevant employment regulations.
5. Length of stay........How long do you intend to stay in Canada?
Rationale: BSOs may allow persons to enter Canada for a stay of up to six months and should stamp the passport of persons who are otherwise admissible. Persons who are intending to remain in Canada for longer than six months should be referred for a secondary examination.
6. Identity................What is your name?
Rationale: If the BSO has any reason to doubt the person's identity, they will ask for the person's name. A comparison can then be made with the person's documents to determine if the name given is the same as the name in the document, or in the case of an aircraft passenger, the same as the one on the E 311 form.

The BSO at PIL may ask additional questions as warranted but usually does not conduct in-depth examinations. This would create line-ups and delays for the travelling public. A BSO at PIL who doubts the bona fides of a person or believes that a detailed examination may be in order should refer the person to an Immigration Secondary examination.

8. Secondary examinations
An Immigration Secondary examination is usually initiated by a referral from BSOs at PIL. It can also result from a referral from a BSO such as a Disembarkation and Roving Team (DART) member, who has boarded and inspected an airplane, a bus, train or ship before any of the passengers have presented themselves at PIL. An Immigration Secondary examination is usually conducted by a BSO in the Immigration Secondary area but may be conducted by a BSO at Customs Secondary if no BSO at Immigration Secondary is available at the port of entry.

8.3. Responsibilities of examining BSOs at Immigration Secondary
BSOs conducting Immigration Secondary examinations are responsible for facilitating the entry of Canadians, registered Indians and permanent residents as well as bona fide foreign nationals and for denying entry to persons who are inadmissible and/or likely to constitute a threat to the safety, security and good order of Canadian society.

Responsibilities of such officers include:
• examining persons seeking entry to Canada to determine admissibility;
• facilitating the entry of Canadians, permanent residents and registered Indians;
• authorizing foreign nationals to enter Canada as temporary or permanent residents and issuing documents where appropriate;
• receiving refugee claims and determining eligibility to make such claims;
• reporting persons who are inadmissible;
• reviewing inadmissibility reports;
• issuing removal orders, where appropriate, to inadmissible persons;
• referring cases to the Immigration Division, where appropriate, for an admissibility hearing;
• authorizing an inadmissible person to enter Canada on a permit;
• denying entry to inadmissible persons, arranging for their removal and confirming their departure;
• allowing persons who are inadmissible, to voluntarily withdraw their application; and
• arresting persons who have committed a serious infraction of the law.
Unquote

BOTTOMLINE:
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the fact remains that the POE interview/examination is done in a suave, soft & friendly manner. The attitude of the BSOs are to Welcome you into Canada - not to ware you off. Our intention should be to remain cool & calm, and answer the BSO in a polite/gentle manner... with a clear conscience & be truthful. The entire thing should be over in 20-30 minutes.

Hope that helped.
Qorax
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« Reply #3449 on: February 17, 2012, 11:07:53 am »

Thanx. And yet many complain that I'm not good enough.

I am grateful i stumbled upon this forum. I find your posts very informative. Thank you for all the efforts..
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