8000$ to get Arranged Employment

[UAE]

Dear friends,
good day to you all,
i have found two agencies which have  Arranged Employment service as they says they have done this job before and they shown me some copies of job offers approved by hrsdc as example. and my job is as secretary which is in category B
but the problem there charges two high
they are asking for 8000 US$ i am not crazy to pay that much money for job offer there saying there work is guarantee
they said We do provide Arranged Employment service where we find an employer matching your profile, we provide you a job offer and apply for Arranged Employment Opinion (AEO) at HRSDC (Service Canada). The employer provides all his documents and sign the AEO application.
 
With an approved AEO, you get 15 points. However the AEO is only to facilitate and support your Permanent Residence application. The employer will not hire once you are in Canada on your PR status.
 
Our fee for the Arranged Employment process is US$8000 payable in 2 installments, 50% upon signing of contract and the balance when your AEO is approved. The first 50% payment is fully refundable in case the AEO is not submitted to HRSDC.
 
If you would like to proceed, kindly let us know and forward your resume so that we can see if we have an employer available matching your profile.

i want to know the number of money they given why so high ?
i need job offer because without that I cant qualify I should get in IELTS 16 SCORE but always I am getting 6 to 7 points only, I cant get this damn marks.
many ppls have job offer plz share your experience




Regards
UAE

[Leon]

I'm pretty sure selling an AEO like that is illegal.  The company would not be given an AEO to hire you unless Service Canada thinks the job offer is real.  If the company doesn't plan to hire you, then the job offer is not real.

When you deal with people who are doing something illegal, it's your risk to take.  Do you know that the "proof" they sent you is real?  Can they guarantee that the AEO will be positive?  How do you know they will not take your money and run?

Since it's really hard to get a real job offer, if you feel the risk is worth taking and you are willing to pay the price, it's up to you.  Just keep in mind that you have no guarantee it will work and that you will get the AEO, they could at the last minute ask you for more money or just disappear.

[barsindoo]

I agree with Leon completely. To be forewarned is to be fore-harmed.

Consider training rigorously for the IELTS test instead.

[UAE]

Thank You Leon & barsindoo your advices is really Appreciated  

[nasim15]

I think these are all fraud!

[hao8165]

Actually, I don't think these agencies are totally illegal.  They may be irresponsible, but not illegal.  They act like headhunters, or just like match makers.  They "help" people who want to immigrate to Canada, but cannot find appropriate employers to sponsor their immigration.  So, they find companies that are willing to sponsor foreigners, and earn profits from the transactions.  I know some lawyers even refer their clients to these agencies if the clients cannot get enough points for immigration on their own.  Certainly, these agencies provide services to a limited extent.  They can only find jobs that fall into appropriate NOC codes, and help potential immigrants who have sufficient experience in that field.

If you check the CIC webpage, it says:
the offer of employment is valid if your prospective employer

has made an offer to hire you on an indeterminate basis if you are accepted as a federal skilled worker, and
has obtained a positive Arranged Employment Opinion from HRSDC.

It means that the employer is not obligated to hire you after you landed in Canada.

As a matter of fact, you should find a decent lawyer and talk this issue with him or her.  Immigration attorneys can provide more valuable information than any of us.

[job_seeker]

Actually, I don't think these agencies are totally illegal.  They may be irresponsible, but not illegal.  They act like headhunters, or just like match makers.  They "help" people who want to immigrate to Canada, but cannot find appropriate employers to sponsor their immigration.  So, they find companies that are willing to sponsor foreigners, and earn profits from the transactions.  I know some lawyers even refer their clients to these agencies if the clients cannot get enough points for immigration on their own.  Certainly, these agencies provide services to a limited extent.  They can only find jobs that fall into appropriate NOC codes, and help potential immigrants who have sufficient experience in that field.

If you check the CIC webpage, it says:
the offer of employment is valid if your prospective employer

has made an offer to hire you on an indeterminate basis if you are accepted as a federal skilled worker, and
has obtained a positive Arranged Employment Opinion from HRSDC.

It means that the employer is not obligated to hire you after you landed in Canada.

As a matter of fact, you should find a decent lawyer and talk this issue with him or her.  Immigration attorneys can provide more valuable information than any of us.

Probably not all are illegal but reading something happening like the one from this thread:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/canada-visa-scams-t26074.0.html

should make you stop and think twice. Maybe a recommendation from somebody you know who was helped to obtain AEO should give you more confidence but then again not all cases are the same. 

[Leon]

There are a lot of scammers out there for sure and there have been people who've paid thousands of dollars only to find out that the people they were dealing with vanished, they were no longer taking their calls and one person even went to the address in Toronto that was supposed to be their office and found nothing of the sort.

If you read about the requirements for AEO's here http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/poarremp.shtml you will see this:

An arranged employment opinion (AEO) is based on these factors :

    * The job offer is permanent;
    * The job offer is genuine;
    * The wages and working conditions offered for the job are comparable to those offered to Canadians working in the occupation;
    * The employment is full-time, not seasonal.

In my opinion, the job offer can not be genuine if the employer is never planning to hire you.  Sure the employer is not obligated to hire you when you get to Canada but that could be in case his situation changes during the months that you are waiting for your immigration.  If he's not planning to hire you when he applies for the AEO, in my opinion, it can not be a genuine offer.

In many provinces, it's also against the law to make applicants pay to find them a job.  There are still agencies that do it in a grey area, for example, they will charge the applicant to "help them write their CV for Canadian requirements" or something like that but it's never anywhere close to $8000.  They charge the employers the largest chunk of money for finding them workers but they only act as a middle man between employee and employer.  They would never offer to sell you a job offer from an employer you have no dealings with.

[Chander]

Its total fraud.This is not the proper procedure.To purchase AEO is not skill.

[hellovn]

It is like a gamble. I know some people in my country coming to Canada by a fake job offer, but many were also scammed.

[Leon]

It may work for some people.  If the company applying for the AEO is real and the whole thing looks legit to Service Canada, they will issue the AEO and the person can use it for their immigration.  If somebody finds out later, you could be in trouble but if you maintain that you did not know it wasn't legit, you would probably get away with it.

The problem is, what if the company in the middle, the agency taking your money has no contact with a real employer who will apply for the AEO?  What if they are just planning to take your money all along and give you nothing.  Or what if they do have contact with the real company but Service Canada refuses the AEO.  You think they will give you your money back?  They are in Canada and you are whereever.  You can not do anything to them.  You may not even know their real names and addresses.  You may know some throw away phone number they can easily get rid of and that's it.

[bluepine]

Simply dont trust any such promises, just go for normal procedures.

[b2c]

it is a very risky idea.

[nasim15]

look for genuine offer. do not risk your entire application.

[UAE]

Thank you guys for replying..
i just really need advices i am not crazy to pay this amount

..thanks alot for sharing ..

regards
UAE