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qorax
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« on: June 09, 2011, 12:21:20 pm »

Proof of Relatives in Canada

We r aware that we can get Five [5] additional points on a/c of "adaptability" if having "relatives" in Canada. But, many a times, while having a 'bonafide' relative residing here, we yet shortcut the paperwork [for whatever reasons] - and get into trouble... either those 5 points r not awarded, or we go into delays due to repeated queries from the VO. Here's what we should understand & do:

Who r the Acceptable Relatives?
Proof of relationship showing u, or your accompanying spouse/common-law partner has a close relative who lives in Canada and is a Canadian Citizen or PR. This close relative can be:
• parent, grandparent,
• child, grandchild,
• brother, sister,
• aunt, uncle, or
• niece, nephew.

Proof of "Relationship"
Having one of the above, we now must submit adequate docs to "show" the 'proof of relative' if we want to seriously get those points, which might sometimes 'make' or 'break' our case. This "Proof" is required in Three (3) Steps. Here's how u go about it:

1. BASIC EVIDENCE OF RELATIONSHIP:
Proof of relationship to your close relative in Canada can be evident by docs, such as (A)birth, (B)marriage or (C)adoption certificates. For eg, to prove that your relative in Canada is your paternal aunt, it would be necessary to submit copies of birth certificates for her and for your father showing they have at least one common parent.

2. WHAT DOCUMENTS NEEDED AS PROOF?
• If s/he is a PR: provide a copy of Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or CPR [COPR] or PR Card.
• If s/he is a Citizen: provide Citizenship proof, such as a copy of Canadian passport or Citizenship card.

3. HOW TO PROVE RELATIVE IS 'CURRENTLY INSIDE' CANADA?
Provide evidence to show that your relative is currently residing inside Canada. This may include copies of:
• Lease agreements [Rental Contracts],
• A current Notice of Assessment from Revenue Canada,
• An Employer's Letter confirming employment,
• Monthly Utility Bills [Telephone, Mobile, Cable, Gas etc.].

Note:
- The evidence should show the relative's "name" and "full address" in Canada.
- Source:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/immigrate/skilled/factor-adaptability.asp

I hope that helped.

Qorax
Ps: U can show the High School Certificate in lieu of Birth Certificate [usually the 10th Grade diploma].
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 12:33:45 pm »

Good, our one member "Immigration1" prove 3rd party person as his real uncle and even got 2nd AOR.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 09:23:24 pm »

Proof of Relatives in Canada

We r aware that we can get Five [5] additional points on a/c of "adaptability" if having "relatives" in Canada. But, many a times, while having a 'bonafide' relative residing here, we yet shortcut the paperwork [for whatever reasons] - and get into trouble... either those 5 points r not awarded, or we go into delays due to repeated queries from the VO. Here's what we should understand & do:

Who r the Acceptable Relatives?
Proof of relationship showing u, or your accompanying spouse/common-law partner has a close relative who lives in Canada and is a Canadian Citizen or PR. This close relative can be:
• parent, grandparent,
• child, grandchild,
• brother, sister,
• aunt, uncle, or
• niece, nephew.

Proof of "Relationship"
Having one of the above, we now must submit adequate docs to "show" the 'proof of relative' if we want to seriously get those points, which might sometimes 'make' or 'break' our case. This "Proof" is required in Three (3) Steps. Here's how u go about it:

1. BASIC EVIDENCE OF RELATIONSHIP:
Proof of relationship to your close relative in Canada can be evident by docs, such as (A)birth, (B)marriage or (C)adoption certificates. For eg, to prove that your relative in Canada is your paternal aunt, it would be necessary to submit copies of birth certificates for her and for your father showing they have at least one common parent.

2. WHAT DOCUMENTS NEEDED AS PROOF?
• If s/he is a PR: provide a copy of Record of Landing (IMM 1000) or CPR [COPR] or PR Card.
• If s/he is a Citizen: provide Citizenship proof, such as a copy of Canadian passport or Citizenship card.

3. HOW TO PROVE RELATIVE IS 'CURRENTLY INSIDE' CANADA?
Provide evidence to show that your relative is currently residing inside Canada. This may include copies of:
• Lease agreements [Rental Contracts],
• A current Notice of Assessment from Revenue Canada,
• An Employer's Letter confirming employment,
• Monthly Utility Bills [Telephone, Mobile, Cable, Gas etc.].

Note:
- The evidence should show the relative's "name" and "full address" in Canada.
- Source:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/immigrate/skilled/factor-adaptability.asp

I hope that helped.

Qorax
Ps: U can show the High School Certificate in lieu of Birth Certificate [usually the 10th Grade diploma].

Nicely put.. Smiley  +1 for you qorax...

Just to add one point in no.3 ; bank statements or credit card statements
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 12:28:38 am »

Hi qorax and senoirs.. My spouse has relatives in canada but those are his mother's cousins, relatively speaking his aunt and uncle, but are they not applicable as 1st degree relatives? Do you suggest that we include them in the application or not?? Thank u very much..Godbless
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 08:07:13 am »

Hi qorax and senoirs.. My spouse has relatives in canada but those are his mother's cousins, relatively speaking his aunt and uncle, but are they not applicable as 1st degree relatives? Do you suggest that we include them in the application or not?? Thank u very much..Godbless

Not permitted.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 08:23:57 am »

Thank you qorax..how ever would it be a negative thing to just include their the copy of their canadian cards so that the immigration will know that we have relatives there..thank you and godbless
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 08:30:34 am »

Thank you qorax..how ever would it be a negative thing to just include their the copy of their canadian cards so that the immigration will know that we have relatives there..thank you and godbless

Not negative -- but, of no value.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2011, 09:08:12 am »

Dear Qorax,

can you look into my post and suggest if there is any bleak chance to claim points for relative in Canada, if I submit all mention documents (copy of tax, passport, utility etc.)

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/complex-situation-points-for-relative-in-canada-t74144.0.html

Thank you.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2011, 09:48:15 am »

Dear Qorax,

can you look into my post and suggest if there is any bleak chance to claim points for relative in Canada, if I submit all mention documents (copy of tax, passport, utility etc.)

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/complex-situation-points-for-relative-in-canada-t74144.0.html

Thank you.

Unfortunately Ma'am, I don't think u can claim points for your deceased husband's brother... however uncanny & sordid that is.

Nonetheless, u may yet try & see -- there might be one sane VO who'd think out-of-the-box. I wish they do.

Deeply regretted.
Qorax
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 09:54:00 am »

Grateful to you for your kind words.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 04:30:39 am »

Hi QORAX,

i have avialed the points of adaptiblity under relation ship in canada on my application. as my Wife's Maternal Uncle lives in torronto.

as a proof i have submitted the Marriage Certificate of My Wfie's Mother and my Wfie's Uncle's Marriage certificate. i was able to find the birth certificate of my Wfie's uncle but Wife's mother Birth certificate was lost somewhere( as they moved alot in past 25 years).Both marriage certificate still show's Common parent.

Will Marriage certificate be acceptable in replacement of Birth certificate.

PS: other documents are complete as. i have submitted canadian passport copy and utility bills.

Please Help.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 08:34:36 am »

Hi QORAX,

i have avialed the points of adaptiblity under relation ship in canada on my application. as my Wife's Maternal Uncle lives in torronto.

as a proof i have submitted the Marriage Certificate of My Wfie's Mother and my Wfie's Uncle's Marriage certificate. i was able to find the birth certificate of my Wfie's uncle but Wife's mother Birth certificate was lost somewhere( as they moved alot in past 25 years).Both marriage certificate still show's Common parent.

Will Marriage certificate be acceptable in replacement of Birth certificate.

PS: other documents are complete as. i have submitted canadian passport copy and utility bills.

Please Help.

Probably YES.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 09:20:02 am »

nowadays they are giving more priority PA's who has got established relatives. this is unexpected but its true.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 11:53:16 am »

Probably YES.

Thanks Qorax...+1 for you
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 11:50:27 pm »

HI Quorax:

Thank you so much for your generosity.  I'm a fan of your posts.
I hope you can also help me with my concerns.

1.  I would like to know how to make a family tree showing relationship with my aunt in Canada.

2.  I also would like to know what I'm going to do with my Aunt's docs, in her birth certificate her name is Rose, but all her documents from Canada is Rosa Rose.  Really don't know what to do about this.

Thank you so much and God bless.
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